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	<title>Comments on: MY ADVICE: BUY A HORSE, INVEST IN BUGGY WHIP COMPANIES</title>
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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can pry my supercharged V8 from my cold, dead hands. 

I laugh maniacally as I roar past hybrids or other inferior smaller displacement cars on the way to work.

My gas mileage is "not applicable", and I probably emit more CO2 than several other cars put together.

Do I care? No. I'm going to enjoy this for as long as we have oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can pry my supercharged V8 from my cold, dead hands. </p>
<p>I laugh maniacally as I roar past hybrids or other inferior smaller displacement cars on the way to work.</p>
<p>My gas mileage is &#8220;not applicable&#8221;, and I probably emit more CO2 than several other cars put together.</p>
<p>Do I care? No. I&#8217;m going to enjoy this for as long as we have oil.</p>
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		<title>By: bobwire</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks rick for the response, although I am not an 'anti-science dickhead'as you presume.What are the 2 studies I never mentioned? Are you on some kind of reflex?

 Honestly I feel that there are technical fixes to reduce our CO2 emissions that are invisible to our american way of life. I mentioned such fixes in another post. It could or could not be true that man has or has not influenced global warming to an extent where he can mitigate or not such effects. How's that for nonsensical nuance? Yet both of us can totally agree with that.

I am totally opening up the US to oil and gas exploration. Let us lose no more american lives in the pursuit of what? remind me? No more american blood for foreign oil. Screw the Middle east, let them kill each other for all I care. Sell your Haliburton stock and come home. Paying a gas-guzzler tax becomes patriotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks rick for the response, although I am not an &#8216;anti-science dickhead&#8217;as you presume.What are the 2 studies I never mentioned? Are you on some kind of reflex?</p>
<p> Honestly I feel that there are technical fixes to reduce our CO2 emissions that are invisible to our american way of life. I mentioned such fixes in another post. It could or could not be true that man has or has not influenced global warming to an extent where he can mitigate or not such effects. How&#8217;s that for nonsensical nuance? Yet both of us can totally agree with that.</p>
<p>I am totally opening up the US to oil and gas exploration. Let us lose no more american lives in the pursuit of what? remind me? No more american blood for foreign oil. Screw the Middle east, let them kill each other for all I care. Sell your Haliburton stock and come home. Paying a gas-guzzler tax becomes patriotic.</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel Brooks beat you to it with his 2000-year-old man.  "Hitting a tree with a stick.  Hey, don't knock it! That was a good job! You couldn't get that job."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel Brooks beat you to it with his 2000-year-old man.  &#8220;Hitting a tree with a stick.  Hey, don&#8217;t knock it! That was a good job! You couldn&#8217;t get that job.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: syn</title>
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		<dc:creator>syn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Corporations are Going Green won't the anti-Globalist be rioting against the mean, big Green machine?

In any case, who would have ever thought that climates never change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Corporations are Going Green won&#8217;t the anti-Globalist be rioting against the mean, big Green machine?</p>
<p>In any case, who would have ever thought that climates never change?</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Tuesday Links...&lt;/strong&gt;

Not your father's Ukrainian Army (photo)Greenies want us back to the Stone Age.Â After you, friends. Rick Moran has some job ideas for when the Greenies take over. Related: Have you checked in with Junk Science recently?Â Related: What do warming reli...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Tuesday Links&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Not your father&#8217;s Ukrainian Army (photo)Greenies want us back to the Stone Age.Â After you, friends. Rick Moran has some job ideas for when the Greenies take over. Related: Have you checked in with Junk Science recently?Â Related: What do warming reli&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The irony here is that much of the first wave of "scientifically inspired" Bigthink Disasters were around the collapse of cities due to excessive numbers of horses in the mid 19th century.  Streetcars and then subways worked past these problems, followed by cars.

Ever since, we've had all manner of bigthink disaster forecasts, from big-thinkers of both the Left and Right.  Maybe one day one of them will be right; after all, if you predict an earthquake every day, eventually it'll happen.  But until then, I avoid peak-oilers, global-warmers, overpopulationists, "big germ" types, and other unpleasant folk of that sort.  One often gets the impression that they want their pet disaster to happen so they'll be "right"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The irony here is that much of the first wave of &#8220;scientifically inspired&#8221; Bigthink Disasters were around the collapse of cities due to excessive numbers of horses in the mid 19th century.  Streetcars and then subways worked past these problems, followed by cars.</p>
<p>Ever since, we&#8217;ve had all manner of bigthink disaster forecasts, from big-thinkers of both the Left and Right.  Maybe one day one of them will be right; after all, if you predict an earthquake every day, eventually it&#8217;ll happen.  But until then, I avoid peak-oilers, global-warmers, overpopulationists, &#8220;big germ&#8221; types, and other unpleasant folk of that sort.  One often gets the impression that they want their pet disaster to happen so they&#8217;ll be &#8220;right&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bobwire</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, after blowing off all that CO2 you suggest more study, and more peer review of existing studies. Have anybody in mind? Propose any funding? And by which bodies of experts? Exxon seems to be flush these days, perhaps they can pony up, just like they have been. Surely there are enough prostitute scientists to give you the results you crave. Where the hell are they? Who has been paying for this 'bad' research? Where is the free market response to science? Is there not more money to be made pimping oneself to the status quo than to alternatives? What the hell has gone wrong? We need to get the scientists back where they belong: our hip pocket. At the beck and call of the current Decider.

And of course you don't have an agenda, Rick. You merely want unfettered business as usual. That is not at agenda, right? You just want more peer review. That should be enough to stall any changes until your last breath. Meanwhile the price of dithering may be visited on others, not us, so who gives a rat's ass anyway?

You moan about cats, what about polar bears? How about harp seals clubbed by Canadians? What kind of moral swamp do you call home? How about an american horsemeat hamburger? Venison? Dolphins sacrificed for your tuna sandwich? Huckabee's polecat pie? Those with firing synapses demand consistency. Feel free to demonstrate such.



&lt;em&gt;And you think 2 studies that conclude we must apply the most draconian measures in order to save ourselves is sufficient? Two? What a laughably ignorant tool you are to believe that when there is no proof whatsoever that reducing our emissions will lower the temperature in the first place. There are many climate change scientists who dispute the idea that lowering our emissions will change anything. What do you say to them? People who agree with you that man is causing the earth to warm but that there's nothing we can do about it? Are they industry tools also?

And, like any unthinking global warming bot, you assume that because I want to see more than 2 studies before we destroy western industrialized civilization that I am some kind of industry hack. I oppose the kind of massive change that would be required to meet a "zero emission" goal by 2050 because anyone with a third grade education knows that 2 studies do not mean that anything is proven. And anyone who has taken a high school science course knows that those studies - published last week - HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN EXAMINED BY PEERS TO TEST THEIR HYPOTHESIS YET.

You are an anti-science Luddite. There are steps we can take to reduce our emissions over the next 20 years - 60% reduction according to AEI - that would accomplish the goal of reducing CO2 emissions substantially while not destroying our economy. I am for that kind of action, dickhead, so get off your climate change high horse and join the rest of the realists. 

Ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, after blowing off all that CO2 you suggest more study, and more peer review of existing studies. Have anybody in mind? Propose any funding? And by which bodies of experts? Exxon seems to be flush these days, perhaps they can pony up, just like they have been. Surely there are enough prostitute scientists to give you the results you crave. Where the hell are they? Who has been paying for this &#8216;bad&#8217; research? Where is the free market response to science? Is there not more money to be made pimping oneself to the status quo than to alternatives? What the hell has gone wrong? We need to get the scientists back where they belong: our hip pocket. At the beck and call of the current Decider.</p>
<p>And of course you don&#8217;t have an agenda, Rick. You merely want unfettered business as usual. That is not at agenda, right? You just want more peer review. That should be enough to stall any changes until your last breath. Meanwhile the price of dithering may be visited on others, not us, so who gives a rat&#8217;s ass anyway?</p>
<p>You moan about cats, what about polar bears? How about harp seals clubbed by Canadians? What kind of moral swamp do you call home? How about an american horsemeat hamburger? Venison? Dolphins sacrificed for your tuna sandwich? Huckabee&#8217;s polecat pie? Those with firing synapses demand consistency. Feel free to demonstrate such.</p>
<p><em>And you think 2 studies that conclude we must apply the most draconian measures in order to save ourselves is sufficient? Two? What a laughably ignorant tool you are to believe that when there is no proof whatsoever that reducing our emissions will lower the temperature in the first place. There are many climate change scientists who dispute the idea that lowering our emissions will change anything. What do you say to them? People who agree with you that man is causing the earth to warm but that there&#8217;s nothing we can do about it? Are they industry tools also?</p>
<p>And, like any unthinking global warming bot, you assume that because I want to see more than 2 studies before we destroy western industrialized civilization that I am some kind of industry hack. I oppose the kind of massive change that would be required to meet a &#8220;zero emission&#8221; goal by 2050 because anyone with a third grade education knows that 2 studies do not mean that anything is proven. And anyone who has taken a high school science course knows that those studies - published last week - HAVEN&#8217;T EVEN BEEN EXAMINED BY PEERS TO TEST THEIR HYPOTHESIS YET.</p>
<p>You are an anti-science Luddite. There are steps we can take to reduce our emissions over the next 20 years - 60% reduction according to AEI - that would accomplish the goal of reducing CO2 emissions substantially while not destroying our economy. I am for that kind of action, dickhead, so get off your climate change high horse and join the rest of the realists. </p>
<p>Ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: J'hn1</title>
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		<dc:creator>J'hn1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are missing the point.
You are not going to have any blacksmiths. They have fires to work the metal. You are not going to have carbon-fed fires, even to heat your grass hut in the snowdrifts.
It is arguable that you are not going to be able to exhale.
"Voluntary" Human Extinction.
Our Noble Elites last</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the point.<br />
You are not going to have any blacksmiths. They have fires to work the metal. You are not going to have carbon-fed fires, even to heat your grass hut in the snowdrifts.<br />
It is arguable that you are not going to be able to exhale.<br />
&#8220;Voluntary&#8221; Human Extinction.<br />
Our Noble Elites last</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may be typical sensational scare reporting. The authors neglected a few of the niceties of accurate portrayal of scientific results, and they used a scare image to make a point that was unrelated to the actual studies. We do not know the main assumptions used, the basic data sets used, the sensitivity of the results to variations of input quantities, all of the physical factors accounted for, and the factors not accounted for in these "sophisticated" models, nor any estimate of the accuracy of the results. I am reminded of the Club of Rome efforts of some years ago that fell flat.

For me, the big question is simply who do we trust in the scientific world to get to the truth about climate change? Far too many so-called reputable scientists and scientific organizations have signed up to some of these rather shoddy studies, and the subsequent sensationalism, not to mention the increased flow of research funds their support garners. 

Isn't it convenient that these study reports come out just as the convention of deniers is wrapping up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may be typical sensational scare reporting. The authors neglected a few of the niceties of accurate portrayal of scientific results, and they used a scare image to make a point that was unrelated to the actual studies. We do not know the main assumptions used, the basic data sets used, the sensitivity of the results to variations of input quantities, all of the physical factors accounted for, and the factors not accounted for in these &#8220;sophisticated&#8221; models, nor any estimate of the accuracy of the results. I am reminded of the Club of Rome efforts of some years ago that fell flat.</p>
<p>For me, the big question is simply who do we trust in the scientific world to get to the truth about climate change? Far too many so-called reputable scientists and scientific organizations have signed up to some of these rather shoddy studies, and the subsequent sensationalism, not to mention the increased flow of research funds their support garners. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it convenient that these study reports come out just as the convention of deniers is wrapping up?</p>
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