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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch Reverend Wright's speech on YouTube. I think the clips we see on the news programs do not show the larger context of the sermons. After watching this I don't see how any Christian (or other person of faith) could disagree with the larger point he is making.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch Reverend Wright&#8217;s speech on YouTube. I think the clips we see on the news programs do not show the larger context of the sermons. After watching this I don&#8217;t see how any Christian (or other person of faith) could disagree with the larger point he is making.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Did Barack Obama&#8217;s Speech Place Larger Wedge Between The Races? : BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Did Barack Obama&#8217;s Speech Place Larger Wedge Between The Races? : BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama&#8217;s Speech a Call for a Victimhood Coalition [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"aaron what in the world did you just say? i mean really did any of it pertain to what rick wrote?"

Fair questions.  I was commenting on the topic in general.  I posted here because I like Rick's blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;aaron what in the world did you just say? i mean really did any of it pertain to what rick wrote?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fair questions.  I was commenting on the topic in general.  I posted here because I like Rick&#8217;s blog.</p>
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		<title>By: arch</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Obama and Reverend Wright differ in only one respect.  Wright openly admits his black master race and anti-American attitudes while Obama conceals them.  

Michelle Obama, in spite of all the advantages she has enjoyed, only recently discovered pride in America.

Barack Obama has enjoyed similar advantages yet he could not bring himself to render the customary respect during the playing of our National Anthem. 

Barack Hussein Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Obama and Reverend Wright differ in only one respect.  Wright openly admits his black master race and anti-American attitudes while Obama conceals them.  </p>
<p>Michelle Obama, in spite of all the advantages she has enjoyed, only recently discovered pride in America.</p>
<p>Barack Obama has enjoyed similar advantages yet he could not bring himself to render the customary respect during the playing of our National Anthem. </p>
<p>Barack Hussein Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil McKenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot resist adding an addendum to my earlier post regarding Moran's mischaracterization of Obama's remarks, here as concerns the charge that Obama is "telling us weâ€™re a bunch of redneck racists everytime they get offended.  Again, quoting what he actually said:

"And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns, this, too, widens the racial divide and blocks the path to understanding."

As I said before, somehow I have missed the part where Obama characterized anyone as "redneck racists."  To the contrary, he would actually seem to be saying not only that whites need to try to understand where black anger is coming from, but also that we blacks need to try to understand where white people have legitimate concerns with our concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot resist adding an addendum to my earlier post regarding Moran&#8217;s mischaracterization of Obama&#8217;s remarks, here as concerns the charge that Obama is &#8220;telling us weâ€™re a bunch of redneck racists everytime they get offended.  Again, quoting what he actually said:</p>
<p>&#8220;And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns, this, too, widens the racial divide and blocks the path to understanding.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I said before, somehow I have missed the part where Obama characterized anyone as &#8220;redneck racists.&#8221;  To the contrary, he would actually seem to be saying not only that whites need to try to understand where black anger is coming from, but also that we blacks need to try to understand where white people have legitimate concerns with our concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Lit3Bolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lit3Bolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhhh, didn't Obama address this very reaction in his speech?  You're displaying the "white resentment," and also resentment at being lumped together with the racist elements of American society which admittedly still exist.  

The statement in full:

In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans donâ€™t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience â€“ as far as theyâ€™re concerned, no oneâ€™s handed them anything, theyâ€™ve built it from scratch. Theyâ€™ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when theyâ€™re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time. 

(So far, so good.)  

Like the anger within the black community, these resentments arenâ€™t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition.  (I was just a kid, so I woudn't know.  It does seem like hyperbole though.)  Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends.   (True.   I do remember Willie Horton.)  Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.  (The first half I don't know what he's referring to, but I definitely know examples for the second.)


Ok, so you've done nothing racist in your life but I agree the white resentment IS there from being sneered at for being lower than dirt, just by being part of "The Man" when you're nowhere close to "The Man" and if you were, you woulnd't be where you are now!  You'd be in the Hamptons drinking Scotch and bourbon while watching polo matches.  

Look, it's hard, really hard, to get the nuance (well, it was for me).  Blacks complaining about racism in a shotgun style approach, lashing out anyone for "acting white" as if they're selling out...  I mean, Feminists do the same thing which drives me wild as well.  But you have to take a step back and realize it's not about YOU specifically, and being defensive doesn't help that perception.  This is why race is never brought up, certainly not in a political context.  So kudos for Obama for trying to tackle it,  something everyone really doesn't want to talk about.    So before you start harrumphing and snorting about Obama lecturing America about race, while you shouldn't feel guilty about what your ancestors did, you shouldn't feel exactly proud either.  You could almost do the same thing with religion, or feminism, the genocide of the Native Americans, the Japanese concentration camps, etc.  You can smugly point out the worst elements of each and accuse them of reverse racism against WASPy men, but really that's not helping anyone.  It just makes you feel better about yourself and makes certain that nothing will change, as Obama said.  And any statement that we're "beyond racism" is so facile that it's not even worth addressing.

I'm sorry, this isn't really very clear.  But the main thing is it isn't about YOU.  YOU don't necessarily have to change your behavior or feel guilty or insulted.  Getting defensive reinforces the perception that you have something to feel defensive about.  So, you don't have turn the issue around, trot out your black friends, claim Willie Horton never existed and lash out against AA and welfare and all the bad/unhelpful things in the African American community.  Obama said specifically against them:

For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances â€“ for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives â€“ by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.


Just as much as he called out the white community, he called out his own black community too.  Now, we can debate how much he did so, and whether he's trying to have his cake and eat it too, but the fact he even said one damning thing about the black community shows how ballsy he is.  I have never heard Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton say anything similar.

Sorry this comment is kind of muddled.  But I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just thinking you might've fallen into a trap I've done before with my feminist girlfriends and black friends. =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhhh, didn&#8217;t Obama address this very reaction in his speech?  You&#8217;re displaying the &#8220;white resentment,&#8221; and also resentment at being lumped together with the racist elements of American society which admittedly still exist.  </p>
<p>The statement in full:</p>
<p>In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans donâ€™t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience â€“ as far as theyâ€™re concerned, no oneâ€™s handed them anything, theyâ€™ve built it from scratch. Theyâ€™ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when theyâ€™re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time. </p>
<p>(So far, so good.)  </p>
<p>Like the anger within the black community, these resentments arenâ€™t always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition.  (I was just a kid, so I woudn&#8217;t know.  It does seem like hyperbole though.)  Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends.   (True.   I do remember Willie Horton.)  Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.  (The first half I don&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s referring to, but I definitely know examples for the second.)</p>
<p>Ok, so you&#8217;ve done nothing racist in your life but I agree the white resentment IS there from being sneered at for being lower than dirt, just by being part of &#8220;The Man&#8221; when you&#8217;re nowhere close to &#8220;The Man&#8221; and if you were, you woulnd&#8217;t be where you are now!  You&#8217;d be in the Hamptons drinking Scotch and bourbon while watching polo matches.  </p>
<p>Look, it&#8217;s hard, really hard, to get the nuance (well, it was for me).  Blacks complaining about racism in a shotgun style approach, lashing out anyone for &#8220;acting white&#8221; as if they&#8217;re selling out&#8230;  I mean, Feminists do the same thing which drives me wild as well.  But you have to take a step back and realize it&#8217;s not about YOU specifically, and being defensive doesn&#8217;t help that perception.  This is why race is never brought up, certainly not in a political context.  So kudos for Obama for trying to tackle it,  something everyone really doesn&#8217;t want to talk about.    So before you start harrumphing and snorting about Obama lecturing America about race, while you shouldn&#8217;t feel guilty about what your ancestors did, you shouldn&#8217;t feel exactly proud either.  You could almost do the same thing with religion, or feminism, the genocide of the Native Americans, the Japanese concentration camps, etc.  You can smugly point out the worst elements of each and accuse them of reverse racism against WASPy men, but really that&#8217;s not helping anyone.  It just makes you feel better about yourself and makes certain that nothing will change, as Obama said.  And any statement that we&#8217;re &#8220;beyond racism&#8221; is so facile that it&#8217;s not even worth addressing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, this isn&#8217;t really very clear.  But the main thing is it isn&#8217;t about YOU.  YOU don&#8217;t necessarily have to change your behavior or feel guilty or insulted.  Getting defensive reinforces the perception that you have something to feel defensive about.  So, you don&#8217;t have turn the issue around, trot out your black friends, claim Willie Horton never existed and lash out against AA and welfare and all the bad/unhelpful things in the African American community.  Obama said specifically against them:</p>
<p>For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances â€“ for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans &#8212; the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives â€“ by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.</p>
<p>Just as much as he called out the white community, he called out his own black community too.  Now, we can debate how much he did so, and whether he&#8217;s trying to have his cake and eat it too, but the fact he even said one damning thing about the black community shows how ballsy he is.  I have never heard Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton say anything similar.</p>
<p>Sorry this comment is kind of muddled.  But I&#8217;m not trying to be an ass, I&#8217;m just thinking you might&#8217;ve fallen into a trap I&#8217;ve done before with my feminist girlfriends and black friends. =P</p>
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		<title>By: Neil McKenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil McKenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who is favorably disposed toward Senator Obama's candidacy, I initially thought that he made a mistake in not approaching the current controversy over Jeremiah Wright / Louis Farrakan / Bill Ayers / whomever-is-next-in-the-we-can't-attack-him-so-let's-tie-him-to-someone-we-can-attack might be, in the same way that Republicans have over the years: change the subject.  I thought that he should spin the issue toward the question of whether it is fair or appropriate to call into question anyone's views not by examining those views, but rather the words and views of others with whom he might be associated.  (The term "guilt by association" comes to mind.)  I was wrong.

That was the most significant speech on race that has been given in this country since "I Have a Dream."  Whether he wins or loses, he said things that have needed to be said for years, and that we as a nation need to be talking about.  Yet, I sit here and watch Fox News desperately trying to keep the focus on whether or not the speech reflects poor judgment on Obama's part in not disassociating himself from Wright's church, whether Wright reflects Obama's secret views, whether the speech was merely cynical political maneuvering.  And now here (on this site), I find outright mischaracterizations of what he said.  For example:

"More than at any other time in this campaign, Obama forcefully and without qualification endorsed across the board government intervention in every aspect of the lives of American citizens."

I would challenge the author to post the excerpts from the speech where Obama did any such thing.

Another example:

"Not once did Obama blame government policies for the problems of African Americans . . . ."

Not true.  Quoting Obama's speech, "A lack of economic opportunity among black men and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family contributed to the erosion of black families, A PROBLEM THAT WELFARE POLICIES FOR MANY YEARS MAY HAVE WORSENED." (emphasis added)

A further example:

"Obama spent a considerable amount of time trying to explain that the rage expressed by Wright publicly is echoed in private by most blacks, and that whites cannot therefore understand how important it is for Wright to be allowed to spew his hatred to give voice to that anger."

Same challenge as above: post the portion of the speech where Obama said that it is important for Wright to be allowed to spew his hatred.  What he said is that Wright's anger comes from somewhere, and that a societal examination of the reasons for that anger is the first step along the path of eliminating it.  But no, let's not do that.  Let's just keep focusing on diversionary issues such as whether or not Obama should have redirected his focus away from addressing the REAL problems that confront this country and instead spend his very valuable time condemning and dissassociating himself from someone who is only giving voice to the anger and frustration that exists in too much of the black community.  Again, quoting Obama's speech, 

"That anger is not always productive. Indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems. It keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity within the African-American community in our condition, it prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. 

But the anger is real, it is powerful, and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.

. . . .

"We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. 

. . . .

We can do that. But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction, and then another one, and then another one. And nothing will change."

Now returning again to the mischaracterizations of what Obama said, 

"[A] closer examination of what he was actually saying shows that Obama believes that the burden of improving race relations is primarily on whites."

Same challenge as above: post the portion of his remarks that even remotely suggest that.

"Obama is telling whites that we dismiss slavery and Jim Crow and 300 years of discrimination and oppression by not granting Blacks the singular honor of telling us weâ€™re a bunch of redneck racists everytime they get offended."

He did no such thing.  Again quoting Obama's speech, 

"In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. 

"Their experience is the immigrant experience. As far as they're concerned, no one handed them anything, they built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pensions dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and they feel their dreams slipping away. And in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. 

"So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town, when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed, when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudice, resentment builds over time."

I'm sorry, but somehow I missed the part where he called, or even suggested, that whites who feel this way are "redneck racists."

In closing, let me say that I spent St. Patrick's Day with a leader in the Illinois Republican Party.  As we talked, I was struck by how much we agreed upon, although I have to confess that I probably share more conservative views than he shares views that might be characterized as liberal.  Implicit in Obama's message is that people like my Republican friend and I should should stop demonizing one another and instead begin coming together to address the concerns that we have in common.  But keeping the artificial division within this country going - keeping the focus of our attention on superficial issues such as what was said by some former leader in the black community (Wright has in fact retired from his pastorship at Obama church) whose time has come and gone, rather than seizing upon the leadership of someone whose rhetoric is so very different than that of Jesse Jackson and his ilk (when was the last time you heard a black political figure - and here, I'm not referring to "the usual suspects" in the person of black conservatives who have absolutely no legitimacy within the black community -  calling into question the ultimate benefit of the welfare state for black people?) seems to be the goal of commentators such as Mr. Moran.  And it may work.

For me, however, Obama's speech pushed me off the fence.  As a black man who has had a similar experience to Obama's - for him it was having white relatives; for me it was having my best friend for 30 years be white (Jewish, in fact) - I know that his calls to accountability for our own contributions to the problems of the black community, and his calls for us to understand that there is more that unites all Americans than divides us, are long overdue.  

My misgivings about Obama have primarily concerned his ability to win.  Now, I no longer give a damn whether he can win or not.  We have to try and elect someone who can bring us together, rather than continuing to divide us as Mr. Moran and similar conservative commentators would rather do.  

His speech convinced me that, at long last, a different kind of leader has arrived: not a black leader, but a leader (of all people) who is black.  This man is showing the potential of being a great man; along the lines of King, DuBois and Mandela; along the lines of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.  Regardless of whether this great man can actually be elected, we have to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who is favorably disposed toward Senator Obama&#8217;s candidacy, I initially thought that he made a mistake in not approaching the current controversy over Jeremiah Wright / Louis Farrakan / Bill Ayers / whomever-is-next-in-the-we-can&#8217;t-attack-him-so-let&#8217;s-tie-him-to-someone-we-can-attack might be, in the same way that Republicans have over the years: change the subject.  I thought that he should spin the issue toward the question of whether it is fair or appropriate to call into question anyone&#8217;s views not by examining those views, but rather the words and views of others with whom he might be associated.  (The term &#8220;guilt by association&#8221; comes to mind.)  I was wrong.</p>
<p>That was the most significant speech on race that has been given in this country since &#8220;I Have a Dream.&#8221;  Whether he wins or loses, he said things that have needed to be said for years, and that we as a nation need to be talking about.  Yet, I sit here and watch Fox News desperately trying to keep the focus on whether or not the speech reflects poor judgment on Obama&#8217;s part in not disassociating himself from Wright&#8217;s church, whether Wright reflects Obama&#8217;s secret views, whether the speech was merely cynical political maneuvering.  And now here (on this site), I find outright mischaracterizations of what he said.  For example:</p>
<p>&#8220;More than at any other time in this campaign, Obama forcefully and without qualification endorsed across the board government intervention in every aspect of the lives of American citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would challenge the author to post the excerpts from the speech where Obama did any such thing.</p>
<p>Another example:</p>
<p>&#8220;Not once did Obama blame government policies for the problems of African Americans . . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>Not true.  Quoting Obama&#8217;s speech, &#8220;A lack of economic opportunity among black men and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one&#8217;s family contributed to the erosion of black families, A PROBLEM THAT WELFARE POLICIES FOR MANY YEARS MAY HAVE WORSENED.&#8221; (emphasis added)</p>
<p>A further example:</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama spent a considerable amount of time trying to explain that the rage expressed by Wright publicly is echoed in private by most blacks, and that whites cannot therefore understand how important it is for Wright to be allowed to spew his hatred to give voice to that anger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same challenge as above: post the portion of the speech where Obama said that it is important for Wright to be allowed to spew his hatred.  What he said is that Wright&#8217;s anger comes from somewhere, and that a societal examination of the reasons for that anger is the first step along the path of eliminating it.  But no, let&#8217;s not do that.  Let&#8217;s just keep focusing on diversionary issues such as whether or not Obama should have redirected his focus away from addressing the REAL problems that confront this country and instead spend his very valuable time condemning and dissassociating himself from someone who is only giving voice to the anger and frustration that exists in too much of the black community.  Again, quoting Obama&#8217;s speech, </p>
<p>&#8220;That anger is not always productive. Indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems. It keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity within the African-American community in our condition, it prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. </p>
<p>But the anger is real, it is powerful, and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.</p>
<p>. . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;We can play Reverend Wright&#8217;s sermons on every channel every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. </p>
<p>. . . .</p>
<p>We can do that. But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we&#8217;ll be talking about some other distraction, and then another one, and then another one. And nothing will change.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now returning again to the mischaracterizations of what Obama said, </p>
<p>&#8220;[A] closer examination of what he was actually saying shows that Obama believes that the burden of improving race relations is primarily on whites.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same challenge as above: post the portion of his remarks that even remotely suggest that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama is telling whites that we dismiss slavery and Jim Crow and 300 years of discrimination and oppression by not granting Blacks the singular honor of telling us weâ€™re a bunch of redneck racists everytime they get offended.&#8221;</p>
<p>He did no such thing.  Again quoting Obama&#8217;s speech, </p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don&#8217;t feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. </p>
<p>&#8220;Their experience is the immigrant experience. As far as they&#8217;re concerned, no one handed them anything, they built it from scratch. They&#8217;ve worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pensions dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and they feel their dreams slipping away. And in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. </p>
<p>&#8220;So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town, when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed, when they&#8217;re told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudice, resentment builds over time.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but somehow I missed the part where he called, or even suggested, that whites who feel this way are &#8220;redneck racists.&#8221;</p>
<p>In closing, let me say that I spent St. Patrick&#8217;s Day with a leader in the Illinois Republican Party.  As we talked, I was struck by how much we agreed upon, although I have to confess that I probably share more conservative views than he shares views that might be characterized as liberal.  Implicit in Obama&#8217;s message is that people like my Republican friend and I should should stop demonizing one another and instead begin coming together to address the concerns that we have in common.  But keeping the artificial division within this country going - keeping the focus of our attention on superficial issues such as what was said by some former leader in the black community (Wright has in fact retired from his pastorship at Obama church) whose time has come and gone, rather than seizing upon the leadership of someone whose rhetoric is so very different than that of Jesse Jackson and his ilk (when was the last time you heard a black political figure - and here, I&#8217;m not referring to &#8220;the usual suspects&#8221; in the person of black conservatives who have absolutely no legitimacy within the black community -  calling into question the ultimate benefit of the welfare state for black people?) seems to be the goal of commentators such as Mr. Moran.  And it may work.</p>
<p>For me, however, Obama&#8217;s speech pushed me off the fence.  As a black man who has had a similar experience to Obama&#8217;s - for him it was having white relatives; for me it was having my best friend for 30 years be white (Jewish, in fact) - I know that his calls to accountability for our own contributions to the problems of the black community, and his calls for us to understand that there is more that unites all Americans than divides us, are long overdue.  </p>
<p>My misgivings about Obama have primarily concerned his ability to win.  Now, I no longer give a damn whether he can win or not.  We have to try and elect someone who can bring us together, rather than continuing to divide us as Mr. Moran and similar conservative commentators would rather do.  </p>
<p>His speech convinced me that, at long last, a different kind of leader has arrived: not a black leader, but a leader (of all people) who is black.  This man is showing the potential of being a great man; along the lines of King, DuBois and Mandela; along the lines of Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.  Regardless of whether this great man can actually be elected, we have to try.</p>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*&#8221;I doubt whether too many ordinary Americans have heard their pastors or priests spew that kind of hate from the pulpit of a church.&#8221;*<br />
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&lt;blockquote&gt;Political correctness is obviously alive and well in the right wing, but it has to do with patriotism rather than racial sensitivity. A person has to be very careful about how he phrases any criticism of American society or government if he doesnâ€™t want Republicans to freak out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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<blockquote><p>Political correctness is obviously alive and well in the right wing, but it has to do with patriotism rather than racial sensitivity. A person has to be very careful about how he phrases any criticism of American society or government if he doesnâ€™t want Republicans to freak out.</p></blockquote>
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		<description>rick, nice article, here and at pajamas. aaron what in the world did you just say? i mean really did any of it pertain to what rick wrote? circular talking and talking for 30 minutes without really saying anything is what obama did today. rick just pointed out what he thought were salient points and you got an ulcer. wright isn't the problem, the problem is that the honeymoon is over for obama and his mantra of "change" is a flat out lie, he is now in the glass house and it is falling down around him. as for preacher's kids how does that pertain to anything.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rick, nice article, here and at pajamas. aaron what in the world did you just say? i mean really did any of it pertain to what rick wrote? circular talking and talking for 30 minutes without really saying anything is what obama did today. rick just pointed out what he thought were salient points and you got an ulcer. wright isn&#8217;t the problem, the problem is that the honeymoon is over for obama and his mantra of &#8220;change&#8221; is a flat out lie, he is now in the glass house and it is falling down around him. as for preacher&#8217;s kids how does that pertain to anything.<br />
keep up the good work rick.</p>
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