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		<title>By: libarbarian</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/05/26/what-ails-conservatism/comment-page-1/#comment-1520696</link>
		<dc:creator>libarbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>link?</description>
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		<title>By: libarbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>libarbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Climate change: I am of the opinion that one day we will see the whole global warming issue as one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on mankind designed for one purpose, the reduction of the power and influence of the United States..&lt;/i&gt;

Climate Change may not be as bad as some think, but the idea that its a deliberate hoax intended to undermine America is paranoid stupidity.

That paranoia-induced denial is exactly why the only solutions being offered come from the far-left.  So long as we stay out of the park, they will be the only ones in the game.  The public will think their solutions are the only solutions.

Its not a hoax.  I dont care if you believe it because you will likely live long enough to see your error firsthand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Climate change: I am of the opinion that one day we will see the whole global warming issue as one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on mankind designed for one purpose, the reduction of the power and influence of the United States..</i></p>
<p>Climate Change may not be as bad as some think, but the idea that its a deliberate hoax intended to undermine America is paranoid stupidity.</p>
<p>That paranoia-induced denial is exactly why the only solutions being offered come from the far-left.  So long as we stay out of the park, they will be the only ones in the game.  The public will think their solutions are the only solutions.</p>
<p>Its not a hoax.  I dont care if you believe it because you will likely live long enough to see your error firsthand.</p>
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		<title>By: libarbarian</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/05/26/what-ails-conservatism/comment-page-1/#comment-1520669</link>
		<dc:creator>libarbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Packer did not quote from Without a Conscience, John Dean’s lengthy tome purporting to show the right is in love with authoritarianism and dictatorship perhaps because serious problems have been found with the methodology used by the authors of the study on which the book is based.&lt;/i&gt;


Link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Packer did not quote from Without a Conscience, John Dean’s lengthy tome purporting to show the right is in love with authoritarianism and dictatorship perhaps because serious problems have been found with the methodology used by the authors of the study on which the book is based.</i></p>
<p>Link?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 07:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Packer's braying is so old hat.  But your contentions that ideas are stale don't pass the laugh test.  Do you believe the principles espoused by the Declareation of Independence are stale?  Perhaps the arguments found in the Federalist Papers are just old hat too?

We need CHANGE!  Fresh Ideas like:
BIGGER GOVERNMENT
MORE TAXES
MORE BUREAUCRATS
LOVE
MORE TAXES

And more idiots to tell us whats wrong with Kansas.

And I though Snobama was the only one who could see the dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Packer&#8217;s braying is so old hat.  But your contentions that ideas are stale don&#8217;t pass the laugh test.  Do you believe the principles espoused by the Declareation of Independence are stale?  Perhaps the arguments found in the Federalist Papers are just old hat too?</p>
<p>We need CHANGE!  Fresh Ideas like:<br />
BIGGER GOVERNMENT<br />
MORE TAXES<br />
MORE BUREAUCRATS<br />
LOVE<br />
MORE TAXES</p>
<p>And more idiots to tell us whats wrong with Kansas.</p>
<p>And I though Snobama was the only one who could see the dead.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 04:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17
May, I could go into bloody detail about how wrong you are on so many issues, but since I had first hand experience with Katrina (going there to volunteer after the storm) I would like to address that:

The state of Louisiana, like all other states, has to file their Emergency Preparedness Plan with the feds.  And so they did.  Not one thing, NOT ONE DAMN THING, was followed in that plan by the Democrats who were running Louisiana at the time.
The SuperDome was never listed on their EPP as a shelter.  The governor, Kathleen Blanco, was so rude to the Red Cross when she refused to allow them to take supplies to the SuperDome the RC even posted an apology for her ineptness on their website (the apology was to all the people they could NOT help due to Kathleen Blanco).  If Katrina proved anything, it was how people, when given cradle to grave entitlements, lose the will to take care of themselves.  
Also, in the EPP every state has, it clearly agrees that the local/state first reponders will be responsible for up to 72 hours.  The New Orleans Fire Department did an awsome job. The New Orleans Police Department bailed.  They left town.  They left their posts and left the city to anarchy.  

So let me see if I understand you; you think that even if a municipality agrees that it's own first responders will be responsible for up to 72 hours, knowing that they have agreed to that, they should not be held to that agreement?  I see.  Then explain to me why Rita did not have the same affect on Texas or Katrina did not have the same affect in lower Mississippi?  But I guess if you house catches on fire, you will sit on your roof waiting for the feds to come and get you.  Good luck with that policy.

When Katrina was imminent, Texas Governor Rick Perry stationed Texas National Guard at the state line with Louisiana.  He notified Kathleen Blanco that the troops were there and were ready to enter Louisiana to help immediately upon landfall.  SHE REFUSED THEM and did not take help from the Texas Guard for two days.  

Louisiana was not a failure of the Bush administration as it was of the pathetic leadership of Lousiana and the citizens of Louisiana themselves for thinking that the government is responsible for their safety.  Someone needs to explain to them, and you, what first responder means and FEMA is, and never was, designed to be first responders.

It is just such people as yourself that makes me wonder where this nation will be in 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17<br />
May, I could go into bloody detail about how wrong you are on so many issues, but since I had first hand experience with Katrina (going there to volunteer after the storm) I would like to address that:</p>
<p>The state of Louisiana, like all other states, has to file their Emergency Preparedness Plan with the feds.  And so they did.  Not one thing, NOT ONE DAMN THING, was followed in that plan by the Democrats who were running Louisiana at the time.<br />
The SuperDome was never listed on their EPP as a shelter.  The governor, Kathleen Blanco, was so rude to the Red Cross when she refused to allow them to take supplies to the SuperDome the RC even posted an apology for her ineptness on their website (the apology was to all the people they could NOT help due to Kathleen Blanco).  If Katrina proved anything, it was how people, when given cradle to grave entitlements, lose the will to take care of themselves.<br />
Also, in the EPP every state has, it clearly agrees that the local/state first reponders will be responsible for up to 72 hours.  The New Orleans Fire Department did an awsome job. The New Orleans Police Department bailed.  They left town.  They left their posts and left the city to anarchy.  </p>
<p>So let me see if I understand you; you think that even if a municipality agrees that it&#8217;s own first responders will be responsible for up to 72 hours, knowing that they have agreed to that, they should not be held to that agreement?  I see.  Then explain to me why Rita did not have the same affect on Texas or Katrina did not have the same affect in lower Mississippi?  But I guess if you house catches on fire, you will sit on your roof waiting for the feds to come and get you.  Good luck with that policy.</p>
<p>When Katrina was imminent, Texas Governor Rick Perry stationed Texas National Guard at the state line with Louisiana.  He notified Kathleen Blanco that the troops were there and were ready to enter Louisiana to help immediately upon landfall.  SHE REFUSED THEM and did not take help from the Texas Guard for two days.  </p>
<p>Louisiana was not a failure of the Bush administration as it was of the pathetic leadership of Lousiana and the citizens of Louisiana themselves for thinking that the government is responsible for their safety.  Someone needs to explain to them, and you, what first responder means and FEMA is, and never was, designed to be first responders.</p>
<p>It is just such people as yourself that makes me wonder where this nation will be in 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: wanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>wanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 03:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Gayle


come on

We are defeating Al Quaeda? what about the national Intelligence Estimate that says "Al Quaeda is is resurgent and stronger than ever?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Gayle</p>
<p>come on</p>
<p>We are defeating Al Quaeda? what about the national Intelligence Estimate that says &#8220;Al Quaeda is is resurgent and stronger than ever?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DrKrbyLuv</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrKrbyLuv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 00:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to retire05, 4:18 pm, Post #13
  
retire05 said: “But to say conservatism, as a political belief, is dead is dead wrong.”

Sorry if I wasn’t clear in post, I consider myself to be a conservative. In my post I mentioned that “Conservatism is robust and relevant in America” - accept my clarification; Conservatism is not dead!

BTW: Enjoyed your posts!

_____________________________________________________________  

In response to jambrowski, 10:24 am, Post #20

jambrowski  said: “the real problem lies in the basic two party system in the US. a two party system is not a democracy, and i would almost say that we have two theocracy’s”

Great post, I totally agree, the current two party system is no longer serving the needs and wants of the American people as evidenced by a recent (May 21, 2008) Reuters/Zogby poll, Index: Mood of Americans Turns Dour. The survey showed:

23%, Job approval rating for President Bush (an all-time low) 
11%, Job approval rating for Congress (ties the previous all time low)
73%, Likely voters believe the nation is on the wrong track

The Democrats and Republicans earned these dismal ratings through their arrogant disregard for the people’s preferences, sound fiscal policies and countless violations of the rule of law and our Constitution. Instead, they serve special interest groups, party loyalty, lobbyists and dangerous global neo-conservatives. 

If the two parties don’t reform and put our country’s interest first and foremost, then I think we will see one or more new political parties emerging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to retire05, 4:18 pm, Post #13</p>
<p>retire05 said: “But to say conservatism, as a political belief, is dead is dead wrong.”</p>
<p>Sorry if I wasn’t clear in post, I consider myself to be a conservative. In my post I mentioned that “Conservatism is robust and relevant in America” - accept my clarification; Conservatism is not dead!</p>
<p>BTW: Enjoyed your posts!</p>
<p>_____________________________________________________________  </p>
<p>In response to jambrowski, 10:24 am, Post #20</p>
<p>jambrowski  said: “the real problem lies in the basic two party system in the US. a two party system is not a democracy, and i would almost say that we have two theocracy’s”</p>
<p>Great post, I totally agree, the current two party system is no longer serving the needs and wants of the American people as evidenced by a recent (May 21, 2008) Reuters/Zogby poll, Index: Mood of Americans Turns Dour. The survey showed:</p>
<p>23%, Job approval rating for President Bush (an all-time low)<br />
11%, Job approval rating for Congress (ties the previous all time low)<br />
73%, Likely voters believe the nation is on the wrong track</p>
<p>The Democrats and Republicans earned these dismal ratings through their arrogant disregard for the people’s preferences, sound fiscal policies and countless violations of the rule of law and our Constitution. Instead, they serve special interest groups, party loyalty, lobbyists and dangerous global neo-conservatives. </p>
<p>If the two parties don’t reform and put our country’s interest first and foremost, then I think we will see one or more new political parties emerging.</p>
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		<title>By: holistic</title>
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		<dc:creator>holistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to disagree with one my own but as I recall we actually found no WMDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to disagree with one my own but as I recall we actually found no WMDs.</p>
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		<title>By: rethuglican</title>
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		<dc:creator>rethuglican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"During the "political propaganda campaign to sell the war to the American people," Bush and his team tried to make the "WMD threat and the Iraqi connection to terrorism appear just a little more certain, a little less questionable than they were." Something else was downplayed as well, McClellan says: any discussion of "the possible unpleasant consequences of war _ casualties, economic effects, geopolitical risks, diplomatic repercussions."


-Scott McClellan

Maybe this is what ails conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;During the &#8220;political propaganda campaign to sell the war to the American people,&#8221; Bush and his team tried to make the &#8220;WMD threat and the Iraqi connection to terrorism appear just a little more certain, a little less questionable than they were.&#8221; Something else was downplayed as well, McClellan says: any discussion of &#8220;the possible unpleasant consequences of war _ casualties, economic effects, geopolitical risks, diplomatic repercussions.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Scott McClellan</p>
<p>Maybe this is what ails conservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: may</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 22:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now stop erasing this 


There we go again. 
Right on cue.

 More spin. More "it's Clinton's Fault"...More...."No it's all great in Iraq...we're defeating al quaeda."

Last I read  Al Quaeda was stronger than ever and recruiting by the thousands. I guess in FoxNews world we really are defeating them. 

What liberal outlet said that? Oh...The National Intelligence Estimate said that "Al Quaeda is resurgent and stronger than ever." It is a matter of public record. So did Richard Clarke who served under Reagan, Bush  41 and for a while GWB. So does Michael Scheuer, the guy who discovered Al Quaeda.

Sorry my friend but three hand picked teams of weapons experts, one led by David Kaye, one by Hans Blix and one by a physicist who heads the IAEA could not find one sustainable piece of evidence that Saddam had an assembly line of any kind going on WMDs. No heavy nuclear particle emissions...no chemical precursors...nothing. De nada.  Zip.

No evidence for the reason why we went to war.

The weapons they found were a few negligible shells filled with old inert Sarin and VX gas that WE SOLD THEM to fire at the Kurds.

Were those shells the reason we marched into Iraq?

We did not find WMDs.

Gas price did not start rising 8 years ago. They went from $1.50 a gallon to $3.00 in one year.

My two sons are in Iraq. One is there for his third time. And he says it's worse and worse and worse. Not better. His buddies say it's a lost cause they're Marines.  

You are going to sit here and lecture me that one can just put his hands in his pocket and walk down any street in Baghdad? Our own senators couldn't do it without a contingent of mercenaries. There are still about 3 hours a day of electricity in Al Anbar province. Journalists cannot leave the Green Zoner without guard.

That's all good?

More Iraqis have died as a result of the invasion than Saddam killed and you're defending this.

You're also an example of the problem. The repsonse to Katrina was not a Democratic problem. Republicans had the WH, the Senate and Congress and couldn't save a single perrson and despite all Bush's promises about helping katrina, it's all been a big unfulfilled promise.

If you want to take back the lead again, you have to face what you have done, be able to say "this war was a mistake,"  just like Scott McClellan. You have to admit it, say it's wrong and apologize before anyone will ever trust you again.

The economy, the war, the horrid health care Americans get, the poor education, that's conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now stop erasing this </p>
<p>There we go again.<br />
Right on cue.</p>
<p> More spin. More &#8220;it&#8217;s Clinton&#8217;s Fault&#8221;&#8230;More&#8230;.&#8221;No it&#8217;s all great in Iraq&#8230;we&#8217;re defeating al quaeda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last I read  Al Quaeda was stronger than ever and recruiting by the thousands. I guess in FoxNews world we really are defeating them. </p>
<p>What liberal outlet said that? Oh&#8230;The National Intelligence Estimate said that &#8220;Al Quaeda is resurgent and stronger than ever.&#8221; It is a matter of public record. So did Richard Clarke who served under Reagan, Bush  41 and for a while GWB. So does Michael Scheuer, the guy who discovered Al Quaeda.</p>
<p>Sorry my friend but three hand picked teams of weapons experts, one led by David Kaye, one by Hans Blix and one by a physicist who heads the IAEA could not find one sustainable piece of evidence that Saddam had an assembly line of any kind going on WMDs. No heavy nuclear particle emissions&#8230;no chemical precursors&#8230;nothing. De nada.  Zip.</p>
<p>No evidence for the reason why we went to war.</p>
<p>The weapons they found were a few negligible shells filled with old inert Sarin and VX gas that WE SOLD THEM to fire at the Kurds.</p>
<p>Were those shells the reason we marched into Iraq?</p>
<p>We did not find WMDs.</p>
<p>Gas price did not start rising 8 years ago. They went from $1.50 a gallon to $3.00 in one year.</p>
<p>My two sons are in Iraq. One is there for his third time. And he says it&#8217;s worse and worse and worse. Not better. His buddies say it&#8217;s a lost cause they&#8217;re Marines.  </p>
<p>You are going to sit here and lecture me that one can just put his hands in his pocket and walk down any street in Baghdad? Our own senators couldn&#8217;t do it without a contingent of mercenaries. There are still about 3 hours a day of electricity in Al Anbar province. Journalists cannot leave the Green Zoner without guard.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all good?</p>
<p>More Iraqis have died as a result of the invasion than Saddam killed and you&#8217;re defending this.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re also an example of the problem. The repsonse to Katrina was not a Democratic problem. Republicans had the WH, the Senate and Congress and couldn&#8217;t save a single perrson and despite all Bush&#8217;s promises about helping katrina, it&#8217;s all been a big unfulfilled promise.</p>
<p>If you want to take back the lead again, you have to face what you have done, be able to say &#8220;this war was a mistake,&#8221;  just like Scott McClellan. You have to admit it, say it&#8217;s wrong and apologize before anyone will ever trust you again.</p>
<p>The economy, the war, the horrid health care Americans get, the poor education, that&#8217;s conservatism.</p>
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