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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;LET US SIT UPON THE GROUND AND TELL SAD STORIES OF THE DEATH OF KINGS&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: jambrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>jambrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OP,
Thing is we don't re-write history to fit our beliefs (as you just did)... as I said there is no need to argue with you, because you and your ilk will just re-phrase, re-write, or adjust reality to your reality.
out,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OP,<br />
Thing is we don&#8217;t re-write history to fit our beliefs (as you just did)&#8230; as I said there is no need to argue with you, because you and your ilk will just re-phrase, re-write, or adjust reality to your reality.<br />
out,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 12:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kindof a sidenote:  the joke was probably not offensive to W.Virginians (I have several friends from WVA that make the same self-deprecating joke), although it was certainly not presidential (or even vice-p).

Also, for clarification, ANYBODY from the south knows that a goober pea is a peanut.


&lt;em&gt;I knew that too - but needed reminding.

Ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kindof a sidenote:  the joke was probably not offensive to W.Virginians (I have several friends from WVA that make the same self-deprecating joke), although it was certainly not presidential (or even vice-p).</p>
<p>Also, for clarification, ANYBODY from the south knows that a goober pea is a peanut.</p>
<p><em>I knew that too - but needed reminding.</p>
<p>Ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Our Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Our Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Dear Jambrowski,

Pardon me for interrupting your deadly serious conversation and conservative love fest on our host Rick Moran’s blog. My grievous mistake, a thousand Mea Culpas, may my chest grow raw as with head bowed, my fist beats its penitent tattoo.

It was my really foolish supposition that the Web was a bit like the old time Public Square. A place for discussion, a local where minds could collide, and learn from each other… It was in that sunny square that ironic political speech was born. Or are you going to argue that Mr. Moran’s post of 06/01/08, titled: A LITTLE ALTERNATE HISTORY: ‘HOPKINS SLAMS FDR IN NEW BOOK’ is a marvelous and insightful exposition of a book describing the FDR Presidency?

In view of the fact that it is late at night, I will answer the question that the man with handle bar mustache posed:

(1)	I do believe it was John McCain who apologized to the Great State of West Virginia for implying that their state population did a tab bit of “interbreedin’ ”. Obama never made such a statement, as most high school students could tell you…

(2)	I do believe Mr. Moran’s finger slipped at the key board when he wrote “that we are a bunch of red state goober chewin’…(etc). There we have to go to middle school, for that age group has an affinity to body parts and body function jokes. Check out Urban Dictionary, or a Web search engine. If you are from a red state, you really do not want to chew on a goober, I do believe Mr. Moran’s magic finders meant booger… Ah yes, from such transpositions are fun bones tickled…

I remain hopeful that Mr. Moran will discuss Health Care. Surely he knows that if he drags a box into the Public Square and mentions Health Care, with a sneering glance to Hillary or Obama, he has to present some solution to the problems we face…

&lt;em&gt;1. I do believe it was Dick Cheney who &lt;a href="http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&#038;requestId=8f80cfbd7e2243ac&#038;clickedItemRank=2&#038;userQuery=cheney+insults+west+virginians&#038;clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2008%2F06%2F02%2Fcheney-makes-incest-joke_n_104761.html&#038;title=%3Cb%3ECheney%3C%2Fb%3E+Makes+Incest+Joke+About+%3Cb%3EWest+Virginians%3C%2Fb%3E+-+Politics+on+The+%3Cb%3E...%3C%2Fb%3E&#038;moduleId=matchingsites.jsp.M&#038;clickedItemPageRanking=2&#038;clickedItemPage=1&#038;clickedItemDescription=WebResults" rel="nofollow"&gt;mentioned incest &lt;/a&gt;in W. VA. But that's alright since like members of another race, all Republicans look the same to you.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;2. A "goober" is a pea - as in "Eatin' Goober Peas" which was a famous Civil War song and as in "pea brain" which describes the exact amount of gray matter you carry around in your skull. And where in God's name you see "body function jokes" in the post above, I can't imagine - unless your body works a little differently than the rest of us.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;3. As for health care: http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/02/12/mandate-me-baby/

ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Dear Jambrowski,</p>
<p>Pardon me for interrupting your deadly serious conversation and conservative love fest on our host Rick Moran’s blog. My grievous mistake, a thousand Mea Culpas, may my chest grow raw as with head bowed, my fist beats its penitent tattoo.</p>
<p>It was my really foolish supposition that the Web was a bit like the old time Public Square. A place for discussion, a local where minds could collide, and learn from each other… It was in that sunny square that ironic political speech was born. Or are you going to argue that Mr. Moran’s post of 06/01/08, titled: A LITTLE ALTERNATE HISTORY: ‘HOPKINS SLAMS FDR IN NEW BOOK’ is a marvelous and insightful exposition of a book describing the FDR Presidency?</p>
<p>In view of the fact that it is late at night, I will answer the question that the man with handle bar mustache posed:</p>
<p>(1)	I do believe it was John McCain who apologized to the Great State of West Virginia for implying that their state population did a tab bit of “interbreedin’ ”. Obama never made such a statement, as most high school students could tell you…</p>
<p>(2)	I do believe Mr. Moran’s finger slipped at the key board when he wrote “that we are a bunch of red state goober chewin’…(etc). There we have to go to middle school, for that age group has an affinity to body parts and body function jokes. Check out Urban Dictionary, or a Web search engine. If you are from a red state, you really do not want to chew on a goober, I do believe Mr. Moran’s magic finders meant booger… Ah yes, from such transpositions are fun bones tickled…</p>
<p>I remain hopeful that Mr. Moran will discuss Health Care. Surely he knows that if he drags a box into the Public Square and mentions Health Care, with a sneering glance to Hillary or Obama, he has to present some solution to the problems we face…</p>
<p><em>1. I do believe it was Dick Cheney who <a href="http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/redir?src=websearch&#038;requestId=8f80cfbd7e2243ac&#038;clickedItemRank=2&#038;userQuery=cheney+insults+west+virginians&#038;clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.com%2F2008%2F06%2F02%2Fcheney-makes-incest-joke_n_104761.html&#038;title=%3Cb%3ECheney%3C%2Fb%3E+Makes+Incest+Joke+About+%3Cb%3EWest+Virginians%3C%2Fb%3E+-+Politics+on+The+%3Cb%3E...%3C%2Fb%3E&#038;moduleId=matchingsites.jsp.M&#038;clickedItemPageRanking=2&#038;clickedItemPage=1&#038;clickedItemDescription=WebResults" rel="nofollow">mentioned incest </a>in W. VA. But that&#8217;s alright since like members of another race, all Republicans look the same to you.</em></p>
<p><em>2. A &#8220;goober&#8221; is a pea - as in &#8220;Eatin&#8217; Goober Peas&#8221; which was a famous Civil War song and as in &#8220;pea brain&#8221; which describes the exact amount of gray matter you carry around in your skull. And where in God&#8217;s name you see &#8220;body function jokes&#8221; in the post above, I can&#8217;t imagine - unless your body works a little differently than the rest of us.</em></p>
<p><em>3. As for health care: <a href="http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/02/12/mandate-me-baby/" rel="nofollow">http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/02/12/mandate-me-baby/</a></p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Bald Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bald Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10 The world reaction to the Obama nomination should be a message that he could be the best thing to happen to American foreign policy in a very long time.

Really?  He's not even president yet and he's already angered the Palestinians for declaring that Jerusalem "must remain undivided".  And he also recently changed (again) his policy on Iran.  Now it's indistinguishable from Bush's.  Despite what your liberal heart and mind might tell you his words and lack of experience and lack of judgment will matter more in how he's seen internationally than the color of his skin.

Is it worth celebrating that a black man is the nominee of a major political party? Sure.  But if that's all he's running on and he wins then we're all in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10 The world reaction to the Obama nomination should be a message that he could be the best thing to happen to American foreign policy in a very long time.</p>
<p>Really?  He&#8217;s not even president yet and he&#8217;s already angered the Palestinians for declaring that Jerusalem &#8220;must remain undivided&#8221;.  And he also recently changed (again) his policy on Iran.  Now it&#8217;s indistinguishable from Bush&#8217;s.  Despite what your liberal heart and mind might tell you his words and lack of experience and lack of judgment will matter more in how he&#8217;s seen internationally than the color of his skin.</p>
<p>Is it worth celebrating that a black man is the nominee of a major political party? Sure.  But if that&#8217;s all he&#8217;s running on and he wins then we&#8217;re all in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: jambrowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>jambrowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 00:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>our paul,
such an inane question that it can almost completely be ignored, but alas i can't. have you ever read the name of this website? rightwingnuthouse, yep that is the name. not much imagination is needed to understand that it is a conservative website (when is that next installment of what ails conservativism?). that being said what you silly stupid leftards can't understand because as usual it is hitting you in the face, much akin to can't see the trees because of the leaves. anywho, we conservatives believe that the more aspects of our lives the gov'mnt is in control of, the less control we have over our lives (common sense). thus, since RP is too much of an adult to answer your sh%t question i will. less government is better gov'mnt! that is why we are disenchanted with GWB, and why we friggin don't answer your prig arse progressive questions. truth be told you don't like us, and we don't like you(sound of spit hitting spitoon, bible hitting you in the face, yeehaw gun shot in the air) jackball!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>our paul,<br />
such an inane question that it can almost completely be ignored, but alas i can&#8217;t. have you ever read the name of this website? rightwingnuthouse, yep that is the name. not much imagination is needed to understand that it is a conservative website (when is that next installment of what ails conservativism?). that being said what you silly stupid leftards can&#8217;t understand because as usual it is hitting you in the face, much akin to can&#8217;t see the trees because of the leaves. anywho, we conservatives believe that the more aspects of our lives the gov&#8217;mnt is in control of, the less control we have over our lives (common sense). thus, since RP is too much of an adult to answer your sh%t question i will. less government is better gov&#8217;mnt! that is why we are disenchanted with GWB, and why we friggin don&#8217;t answer your prig arse progressive questions. truth be told you don&#8217;t like us, and we don&#8217;t like you(sound of spit hitting spitoon, bible hitting you in the face, yeehaw gun shot in the air) jackball!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thurs. evening links...&lt;/strong&gt;

Rick Moran on Hillary. A quote:I will fight her hammer and tongs over what will be an effort to pass national health insurance regardless of who wins in November and her other schemes. But I will do it with a new found appreciation for her tenacity and...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Thurs. evening links&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Rick Moran on Hillary. A quote:I will fight her hammer and tongs over what will be an effort to pass national health insurance regardless of who wins in November and her other schemes. But I will do it with a new found appreciation for her tenacity and&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world reaction to the Obama nomination should be a message that he could be the best thing to happen to American foreign policy in a very long time. The fact that a major party will nominate an African American (who is really as much white as he is black) man indicates to the world that the US is a diverse nation ready to embrace a diverse world. Yes, win or lose, there is a new day in America. 

This is about "content of his character," not his race, and the fact that he is being nominated by the Democratic Party speaks loudly that a lot of Americans are ready to practice what Martin L. King, Jr. preached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world reaction to the Obama nomination should be a message that he could be the best thing to happen to American foreign policy in a very long time. The fact that a major party will nominate an African American (who is really as much white as he is black) man indicates to the world that the US is a diverse nation ready to embrace a diverse world. Yes, win or lose, there is a new day in America. </p>
<p>This is about &#8220;content of his character,&#8221; not his race, and the fact that he is being nominated by the Democratic Party speaks loudly that a lot of Americans are ready to practice what Martin L. King, Jr. preached.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, I'd much rather had a Clinton v McLame battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I&#8217;d much rather had a Clinton v McLame battle.</p>
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		<title>By: TTT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TTT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Hillary] was actually in the process of building an entirely new Democratic party coalition – one that resembled the old FDR New Deal grouping with not urban elites as the centerpiece of the machine but rather lunch pail Democrats and seniors as her base.&lt;/i&gt;

Another reason I'm happy she lost.  

She knew she could never seal the deal with anyone other than uneducated racist senior citizens, and so she went about deliberately trying to alienate as many Democrats and independents as possible, so that only the die-hard identity crusaders would care enough to stick around and vote.  It would have been the only way for her to win.  

We face unprecedented challenges.  Our young creative classes are saddled with unheard-of educational debts, the housing crisis, the near-certainty that we have already passed Peak Oil, and the looming end of longstanding political / economic entitlements such as Social Security, pensions, and retirement.  With that in mind, it is folly to try to reorient politics around the sensitivities of of 80-year-olds.  They've already had their lives; they already have their homes; their children are already fed; their Social Security payments are assured.  They don't understand modern problems, and it would be little less than perverse to give them a disproportionate voice in picking the one who will have to deal with those problems.  Speaking of senior citizens, let's not forget it was McSame who actually boasted of being "a 20th-century kind of guy."

And what's so bad about the 50+% of Americans who live in urban areas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[Hillary] was actually in the process of building an entirely new Democratic party coalition – one that resembled the old FDR New Deal grouping with not urban elites as the centerpiece of the machine but rather lunch pail Democrats and seniors as her base.</i></p>
<p>Another reason I&#8217;m happy she lost.  </p>
<p>She knew she could never seal the deal with anyone other than uneducated racist senior citizens, and so she went about deliberately trying to alienate as many Democrats and independents as possible, so that only the die-hard identity crusaders would care enough to stick around and vote.  It would have been the only way for her to win.  </p>
<p>We face unprecedented challenges.  Our young creative classes are saddled with unheard-of educational debts, the housing crisis, the near-certainty that we have already passed Peak Oil, and the looming end of longstanding political / economic entitlements such as Social Security, pensions, and retirement.  With that in mind, it is folly to try to reorient politics around the sensitivities of of 80-year-olds.  They&#8217;ve already had their lives; they already have their homes; their children are already fed; their Social Security payments are assured.  They don&#8217;t understand modern problems, and it would be little less than perverse to give them a disproportionate voice in picking the one who will have to deal with those problems.  Speaking of senior citizens, let&#8217;s not forget it was McSame who actually boasted of being &#8220;a 20th-century kind of guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s so bad about the 50+% of Americans who live in urban areas?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Bolingbroke didn't have the MSM helping him seize the crown, but he may have had an uncle that helped liberate Elsinore (okay, wrong play, but it seems so right).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Bolingbroke didn&#8217;t have the MSM helping him seize the crown, but he may have had an uncle that helped liberate Elsinore (okay, wrong play, but it seems so right).</p>
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