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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; OBAMA IS SO RIGHT&#8230;AND SO WRONG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; OBAMA IS SO RIGHT&#8230;AND SO WRONG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bookworm Room &#187; Watcher&#8217;s Results</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: M. Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/07/04/do-liberals-love-america-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1579782</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel Davis Said:
"I will stand against those who wish to fundamentally “change” America into a multicultural socialist tyranny by rewriting history to focus on the worst of the past in order to deligitimize our culture."
Ya won't be alone,those that judge the actions and beliefs of people long gone by present standards miss the courage they showed in opposing the established institutions of the day.Those who believe our forebears lacked an anti-slavery bias are to ill informed to have read the original drafts of The Declaration of Independence or writings of those most honorable men,those who believe in the absolute right of an Imperial Spanish Monarchy would be unworthy to have stood against the Monarch of England as our founders did,those who disparage our Protestant identity would have us thank politicians for our freedoms instead of hold them as a gift from God almighty and no mans to deny,those that would have us give up our arms would have us ignore that those that took up arms against their own government recognised it second only to free speech as a fundamental and indespensible right.Liberals may have fondness for our nation but are too ill informed to fully appreciate its basic decency and the incredible vision of honorable men and cry to little to late no matter the achievement and Conservatives simple marvel at their creations resilience and the short period it has taken for that vision to reshape the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel Davis Said:<br />
&#8220;I will stand against those who wish to fundamentally “change” America into a multicultural socialist tyranny by rewriting history to focus on the worst of the past in order to deligitimize our culture.&#8221;<br />
Ya won&#8217;t be alone,those that judge the actions and beliefs of people long gone by present standards miss the courage they showed in opposing the established institutions of the day.Those who believe our forebears lacked an anti-slavery bias are to ill informed to have read the original drafts of The Declaration of Independence or writings of those most honorable men,those who believe in the absolute right of an Imperial Spanish Monarchy would be unworthy to have stood against the Monarch of England as our founders did,those who disparage our Protestant identity would have us thank politicians for our freedoms instead of hold them as a gift from God almighty and no mans to deny,those that would have us give up our arms would have us ignore that those that took up arms against their own government recognised it second only to free speech as a fundamental and indespensible right.Liberals may have fondness for our nation but are too ill informed to fully appreciate its basic decency and the incredible vision of honorable men and cry to little to late no matter the achievement and Conservatives simple marvel at their creations resilience and the short period it has taken for that vision to reshape the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Davis</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/07/04/do-liberals-love-america-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1578365</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 04:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reynolds:  There is much to be proud of in American history, including our evolution on basic civil rights for all citizens.  Liberals acknowledge none of it. To them, America remains an unrepentent racist nation bent on subjugating all people of color and exploiting the world's poor.

You are deeply confused.  Liberals do hate freedom of religion (if it is Christianity) and freedom of the press when it says something they don't like (i.e. The "Fairness Doctrine").  Leftists routinely abolish both of these freedoms as soon as they take power.

Our past contains many mistakes (e.g FDR's internment camps), but on the whole is a tale that is an inspiration to humanity. I will stand against those who wish to fundamentally "change" America into a multicultural socialist tyranny by rewriting history to focus on the worst of the past in order to deligitimize our culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynolds:  There is much to be proud of in American history, including our evolution on basic civil rights for all citizens.  Liberals acknowledge none of it. To them, America remains an unrepentent racist nation bent on subjugating all people of color and exploiting the world&#8217;s poor.</p>
<p>You are deeply confused.  Liberals do hate freedom of religion (if it is Christianity) and freedom of the press when it says something they don&#8217;t like (i.e. The &#8220;Fairness Doctrine&#8221;).  Leftists routinely abolish both of these freedoms as soon as they take power.</p>
<p>Our past contains many mistakes (e.g FDR&#8217;s internment camps), but on the whole is a tale that is an inspiration to humanity. I will stand against those who wish to fundamentally &#8220;change&#8221; America into a multicultural socialist tyranny by rewriting history to focus on the worst of the past in order to deligitimize our culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I see Reynolds just can't help himself.  Such ignorance is just too laughable.

Ashamed of slavery?  I never owned a slave.  What country in 1776 had outlawed slavery?

I am ashamed of those who display such vast ignorance.

Do us all a favor and don't waste bandwidth or our time with such braying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I see Reynolds just can&#8217;t help himself.  Such ignorance is just too laughable.</p>
<p>Ashamed of slavery?  I never owned a slave.  What country in 1776 had outlawed slavery?</p>
<p>I am ashamed of those who display such vast ignorance.</p>
<p>Do us all a favor and don&#8217;t waste bandwidth or our time with such braying.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheat Seeking Missiles &#187; Wednesday Reading</title>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel:

Liberals repudiate the country's past?  You mean, the way they hate freedom of religion and association and the press?  (I thought liberals were the press.) Or is it their deep and abiding hatred of the anti-slavery movement.  Or perhaps their contempt or women's suffrage? Or the labor movement. Or Civil Rights.  Or their unending hostility toward Jefferson and Lincoln? How about World War II, in which we were led by the ur-liberal, FDR?

Look, genius, this country's "past" covers a lot of ground.  You decide -- on some basis that only makes sense to you -- that some of our past is our real past, and other parts of our past are somehow not, and then manage to convince yourself that because liberals despise slavery and genocide and Jim Crow that they hate America.

Um . . . what?

Do conservatives somehow honor slavery and genocide and Jim Crow?  Are there no parts of our past that trouble conservatives just a bit?  Really proud of that whole Mexican-American War thing? That wild-eyed radical Ulysses Grant despised that war.  You kind of think what we did to the Cherokee and the Seminoles was no biggie?

Conservatives hate a lot of this nation's past.  They are ashamed of a lot of our past.  Liberals hate a lot of it.  I think if you put ten minutes thought into the matter you'd discover (surprise!) that there's about a 90% overlap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel:</p>
<p>Liberals repudiate the country&#8217;s past?  You mean, the way they hate freedom of religion and association and the press?  (I thought liberals were the press.) Or is it their deep and abiding hatred of the anti-slavery movement.  Or perhaps their contempt or women&#8217;s suffrage? Or the labor movement. Or Civil Rights.  Or their unending hostility toward Jefferson and Lincoln? How about World War II, in which we were led by the ur-liberal, FDR?</p>
<p>Look, genius, this country&#8217;s &#8220;past&#8221; covers a lot of ground.  You decide &#8212; on some basis that only makes sense to you &#8212; that some of our past is our real past, and other parts of our past are somehow not, and then manage to convince yourself that because liberals despise slavery and genocide and Jim Crow that they hate America.</p>
<p>Um . . . what?</p>
<p>Do conservatives somehow honor slavery and genocide and Jim Crow?  Are there no parts of our past that trouble conservatives just a bit?  Really proud of that whole Mexican-American War thing? That wild-eyed radical Ulysses Grant despised that war.  You kind of think what we did to the Cherokee and the Seminoles was no biggie?</p>
<p>Conservatives hate a lot of this nation&#8217;s past.  They are ashamed of a lot of our past.  Liberals hate a lot of it.  I think if you put ten minutes thought into the matter you&#8217;d discover (surprise!) that there&#8217;s about a 90% overlap.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Davis</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/07/04/do-liberals-love-america-too/comment-page-1/#comment-1577214</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beinart paints a far too benign picture of contemporary liberalism's take on America.  Liberals do not love their country; they absolutely despise a majority of its citizens and believe its history is one long tale of genocide and destruction.  Liberalism is born of adolescent narcissm, ignorance, and a deep psychological problem with authority.  To quote Beinart:

"Thus, patriotism isn’t about honoring and replicating the past; it’s about surpassing it."

For liberals, I believe "patriotism" is about repudiating the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beinart paints a far too benign picture of contemporary liberalism&#8217;s take on America.  Liberals do not love their country; they absolutely despise a majority of its citizens and believe its history is one long tale of genocide and destruction.  Liberalism is born of adolescent narcissm, ignorance, and a deep psychological problem with authority.  To quote Beinart:</p>
<p>&#8220;Thus, patriotism isn’t about honoring and replicating the past; it’s about surpassing it.&#8221;</p>
<p>For liberals, I believe &#8220;patriotism&#8221; is about repudiating the past.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ:
I don't think I'm going to waste any more of my time.</description>
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I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m going to waste any more of my time.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reynolds:

I see you just don't get the point do you.  France had the finest army in Europe yet it was crushed by a smaller force that had better doctriine, technology, morale and organization.  Just as France believed its technology was supreme you fall victim to the same mindset.  Sadly you ignore the fact or are unaware of the fact that technology rests with no nation.  The price the French and the West paid was the Germans marching through Paris.

Indeed a 50% reduction of the military by Clinton has hollowed outthe US military.  We see how it is stretched to fight in two relatively minor theaters.  One can imagine how well we would do if we had to fight the PRC without nuclear weapons or if North Korea were to become aggressive today.  Yes Bush didn't expand the military, a serious mistake.  

But we are treated to the bogus Obama who promises to cut the military.

Thank you for demonstrating your military expertise and years of service sir.  Only someone who suffered the rigerous training endured in a sandbox could reach the conclusions you have.

So now we are to thrust the national security of the nation to a party that hasn't been right about national security in fifty years?

Americans believed they reigned supreme in technology in 1940.  It didn't matter that its army was smaller than Poland's.  It didn't matter that its aircraft were obsolete.  It didn't matter that the navy's optics, torpedoes, or fire control were inferior to the Japanese.    After all those who were responsible were going to pay the butcher's bill for being wrong.

As the army discovered when it first met the Germans in North Africa, or the Navy at Guadalcanal or Nidway.  Or the thousands of tank crews or aircrews who went to their deaths because their equipment was thought to be effective by people as thoroughly versed with the military as you obviously are.  

Let us rather embrace the philosophy of those who tell us not to worry about our freedoms and the safety of those who must guard our freedoms with toss off lines from the DU.  The French did as did those at Oxford when they said they wouldn't fight for King nor country and encouraged those with a more realistic view of politics to plunge the world into war.

But we can be happy that the 65 million who died listened to such tripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reynolds:</p>
<p>I see you just don&#8217;t get the point do you.  France had the finest army in Europe yet it was crushed by a smaller force that had better doctriine, technology, morale and organization.  Just as France believed its technology was supreme you fall victim to the same mindset.  Sadly you ignore the fact or are unaware of the fact that technology rests with no nation.  The price the French and the West paid was the Germans marching through Paris.</p>
<p>Indeed a 50% reduction of the military by Clinton has hollowed outthe US military.  We see how it is stretched to fight in two relatively minor theaters.  One can imagine how well we would do if we had to fight the PRC without nuclear weapons or if North Korea were to become aggressive today.  Yes Bush didn&#8217;t expand the military, a serious mistake.  </p>
<p>But we are treated to the bogus Obama who promises to cut the military.</p>
<p>Thank you for demonstrating your military expertise and years of service sir.  Only someone who suffered the rigerous training endured in a sandbox could reach the conclusions you have.</p>
<p>So now we are to thrust the national security of the nation to a party that hasn&#8217;t been right about national security in fifty years?</p>
<p>Americans believed they reigned supreme in technology in 1940.  It didn&#8217;t matter that its army was smaller than Poland&#8217;s.  It didn&#8217;t matter that its aircraft were obsolete.  It didn&#8217;t matter that the navy&#8217;s optics, torpedoes, or fire control were inferior to the Japanese.    After all those who were responsible were going to pay the butcher&#8217;s bill for being wrong.</p>
<p>As the army discovered when it first met the Germans in North Africa, or the Navy at Guadalcanal or Nidway.  Or the thousands of tank crews or aircrews who went to their deaths because their equipment was thought to be effective by people as thoroughly versed with the military as you obviously are.  </p>
<p>Let us rather embrace the philosophy of those who tell us not to worry about our freedoms and the safety of those who must guard our freedoms with toss off lines from the DU.  The French did as did those at Oxford when they said they wouldn&#8217;t fight for King nor country and encouraged those with a more realistic view of politics to plunge the world into war.</p>
<p>But we can be happy that the 65 million who died listened to such tripe.</p>
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