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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain demonstrates he can throw anyone under the bus just like Obama.

Guess the metrosexuals can't man up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain demonstrates he can throw anyone under the bus just like Obama.</p>
<p>Guess the metrosexuals can&#8217;t man up.</p>
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		<title>By: Dale in Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to check in today, and let "barbiebobboy" know that I checked, and it STILL "Barack HUSSEIN Obama", the fradulent, empty suited Marxist-Muslim practicing "Taqiyah", who is HIS candidate for President of the United States!

I'll check in tomorrow again, and see if "barbiekendollboywire" got the message yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to check in today, and let &#8220;barbiebobboy&#8221; know that I checked, and it STILL &#8220;Barack HUSSEIN Obama&#8221;, the fradulent, empty suited Marxist-Muslim practicing &#8220;Taqiyah&#8221;, who is HIS candidate for President of the United States!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check in tomorrow again, and see if &#8220;barbiekendollboywire&#8221; got the message yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Dale in Atlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale in Atlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bobwire Said:
12:04 am  

Dale thank you for reminding me of Obama’s middle name. You are one sharp tack. Now, are you ready for Joseph (Stalin) Lieberman? Keep that chandelier well lit, son. Shine on.



bobwire:  actually Moron, that's BARBwire, but what the hell.

By the way, it IS  Barack HUSSEIN Obama!

bob/barbiewire = just another Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Democratic Traitor Leftist Nutbag (TM)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobwire Said:<br />
12:04 am  </p>
<p>Dale thank you for reminding me of Obama’s middle name. You are one sharp tack. Now, are you ready for Joseph (Stalin) Lieberman? Keep that chandelier well lit, son. Shine on.</p>
<p>bobwire:  actually Moron, that&#8217;s BARBwire, but what the hell.</p>
<p>By the way, it IS  Barack HUSSEIN Obama!</p>
<p>bob/barbiewire = just another Anti-American/Pro-Jihadi Democratic Traitor Leftist Nutbag (TM)</p>
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		<title>By: M. Wilcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans haven't had their convention yet,get a clue and nominate someone else like maybe a Conservative that can beat a junior Senator from Chicago that goes to a racist anti-American church.Unfreakinbelievable McCain hasn't dropped out yet but I suppose he still hopes to work with a Democrat majority Congress to make all his Mexican friends citizens with retroactive social security benefits,shoot he may even propose we go ahead and cede California to Mexico since La Raza would appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans haven&#8217;t had their convention yet,get a clue and nominate someone else like maybe a Conservative that can beat a junior Senator from Chicago that goes to a racist anti-American church.Unfreakinbelievable McCain hasn&#8217;t dropped out yet but I suppose he still hopes to work with a Democrat majority Congress to make all his Mexican friends citizens with retroactive social security benefits,shoot he may even propose we go ahead and cede California to Mexico since La Raza would appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitehall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitehall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to why the new auto plants are being built in the South, maybe it is the electricity.  Those states have new nuclear power plants in the works.

Of course, they have lower taxes and less favorable laws for unions too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to why the new auto plants are being built in the South, maybe it is the electricity.  Those states have new nuclear power plants in the works.</p>
<p>Of course, they have lower taxes and less favorable laws for unions too.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whitehall, if all you hear is the MSM complaining about how bad the economy is but you still have a job, are current on your house payments, and manage to save for your future, you cannot be expected to think things are bad because you are being told by those [trusted] reporters that we are on the edge of an economic collapse.

Yesterday, when IndyBank collapsed, Shepard Smith of Fox was absolutely apoplectic.  You would have thought the stock market crash was going to happen in the next hour, and a repeat of the Great Depression was eminent in a week or so.  Smith, being the liberal he is, could not stop talking about FannieMae and FreddieMac and what was going to happen if those two dynamics folded.  Can a new Civilian Conservation Corp be just around the corner?  Are we going  see soup lines, dust bowls (nah, global warming is taking care of that), children in the streets begging for just a bite to eat?  To hear Smith rail on, it would seem so.

Let's not forget that the Senate voted on cloture for the $300 BILLION boondoggle they are calling "mortgage bailout".  So for me, that means higher taxes so that I can bail out people who took interest only loans and now find they have to pay the prinicipal.  Or people who falsified their applications with less than honest banks to get mortgages they couldn't afford.  All this while I cut back on other luxuries to make my mortgage payment and put gas in my tank.

Whiners?  You're damned right we are a nation of whiners.  Millions of Americans have decided that it is not themselves who are in charge of their futures, but it is the government, and the unions, that are to provide for them.

Funny, while Michigan, once the auto capital of the world, sinks into ruin, Toyota just built a huge plant in San Antonio.  Why not Michigan?  Why chose Texas?  Why did Mercedes pick Georgia?  As I said, maybe the those in power in Michigan should take a trip down south.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whitehall, if all you hear is the MSM complaining about how bad the economy is but you still have a job, are current on your house payments, and manage to save for your future, you cannot be expected to think things are bad because you are being told by those [trusted] reporters that we are on the edge of an economic collapse.</p>
<p>Yesterday, when IndyBank collapsed, Shepard Smith of Fox was absolutely apoplectic.  You would have thought the stock market crash was going to happen in the next hour, and a repeat of the Great Depression was eminent in a week or so.  Smith, being the liberal he is, could not stop talking about FannieMae and FreddieMac and what was going to happen if those two dynamics folded.  Can a new Civilian Conservation Corp be just around the corner?  Are we going  see soup lines, dust bowls (nah, global warming is taking care of that), children in the streets begging for just a bite to eat?  To hear Smith rail on, it would seem so.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that the Senate voted on cloture for the $300 BILLION boondoggle they are calling &#8220;mortgage bailout&#8221;.  So for me, that means higher taxes so that I can bail out people who took interest only loans and now find they have to pay the prinicipal.  Or people who falsified their applications with less than honest banks to get mortgages they couldn&#8217;t afford.  All this while I cut back on other luxuries to make my mortgage payment and put gas in my tank.</p>
<p>Whiners?  You&#8217;re damned right we are a nation of whiners.  Millions of Americans have decided that it is not themselves who are in charge of their futures, but it is the government, and the unions, that are to provide for them.</p>
<p>Funny, while Michigan, once the auto capital of the world, sinks into ruin, Toyota just built a huge plant in San Antonio.  Why not Michigan?  Why chose Texas?  Why did Mercedes pick Georgia?  As I said, maybe the those in power in Michigan should take a trip down south.</p>
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		<title>By: Whitehall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitehall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to disagree but Gramm was dead on the money.  He should have been a bit more specific about exactly WHO the whiners were - that would be the MSM and the Democrats.

There is ALWAYS someone on the short end of the stick economically.  We've all seen hard times.  The answer is to get out and solve your own problems.  If the plant closes and you lose your job you hustle up a new one or move or get some more training.  We do have a substantial safety net (unemployment, retraining funds, etc) for anyone with will and drive.

So times are not as flush as they have been the last couple of decades; they are by no means fatal for anyone with some energy. The conomy has to do some cycling or we'd be stuck with a bunch of dumb ideas that didn't get weeded out.

Let's get on with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to disagree but Gramm was dead on the money.  He should have been a bit more specific about exactly WHO the whiners were - that would be the MSM and the Democrats.</p>
<p>There is ALWAYS someone on the short end of the stick economically.  We&#8217;ve all seen hard times.  The answer is to get out and solve your own problems.  If the plant closes and you lose your job you hustle up a new one or move or get some more training.  We do have a substantial safety net (unemployment, retraining funds, etc) for anyone with will and drive.</p>
<p>So times are not as flush as they have been the last couple of decades; they are by no means fatal for anyone with some energy. The conomy has to do some cycling or we&#8217;d be stuck with a bunch of dumb ideas that didn&#8217;t get weeded out.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get on with it.</p>
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		<title>By: retire05</title>
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		<dc:creator>retire05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 is right.  Where was the government when the oil industry in Texas fell into the crapper?  When dozens of town in Texas, that depended on the oil industry to keep them surviving fell into not much more than ghost towns?

Michigan has been in decline for as long as I can remember.  Remember Michael Moore's "Roger and Me" movie?  Full of propaganda, it was an attempt to show the decline of Michigan and how the goverment was doing nothing to help.

But what are the property tax rates in Michigan?  How much is the state income tax and state sales tax?  Do the brain surgeon's in Michigan not understand that you cannot tax yourself out of poverty?  Perhaps not since that seems to be the Democrats answer to everything.

The Texas economy was in the tank in the early 80's becuase it relied on the oil/cattle industry for support.  No one cared.  Now CNBC lists Texas as the #1 state for business with very little economic downturn, low taxes (we don't have state income taxes) and a state budget surplus.  Perhaps if Michigan wants to do something about it's economy, it should take a trip south.

And what does Michigan, Ohio and Pennslyvania all have in common?  They are union controlled states with union bosses too stupid to make it in the business world on their own.  So they drag down the industries that those states do have.  And don't give me any crap about being anti-union as I have been a member of the CWA for more years than I care to remember and I have seen how the CWA has handed it's membership a bill of goods while it uses member dues to pander to the Democrats.  (CWA vs. Beck)

If one industry is dying, you don't try to prop it up by raising taxes.  You seek other industries to create jobs.  You make your state appealing, not complain about the evil Republicans.

Gramm was right.  We have become a nation of whiners.  To reflect on what we once were (pioneers who asked nothing from their government) to what we are now.   A society that has become the people of the government, not the government of the people.  If left up to the mindset of today, no one would live past the Potomac River, or the Mississippi River at the very least.  We would all still be crowded into safe areas, waiting for the government to fix all our woes.

This government has become a system of reward for losers, and punishers of those who believe in self reliance and individual responsibility.

I don't like Gramm, never have.  But he was right.  And for McCain to throw him under the bus shows that McCain is just as big a pander as Obama.  Not exactly a positive trait.

Tell Michigan, Ohio and Pennslyvania to handle their own problems and take an example from other states that have pulled themselves out of the red and not look to any politician to do it for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 is right.  Where was the government when the oil industry in Texas fell into the crapper?  When dozens of town in Texas, that depended on the oil industry to keep them surviving fell into not much more than ghost towns?</p>
<p>Michigan has been in decline for as long as I can remember.  Remember Michael Moore&#8217;s &#8220;Roger and Me&#8221; movie?  Full of propaganda, it was an attempt to show the decline of Michigan and how the goverment was doing nothing to help.</p>
<p>But what are the property tax rates in Michigan?  How much is the state income tax and state sales tax?  Do the brain surgeon&#8217;s in Michigan not understand that you cannot tax yourself out of poverty?  Perhaps not since that seems to be the Democrats answer to everything.</p>
<p>The Texas economy was in the tank in the early 80&#8217;s becuase it relied on the oil/cattle industry for support.  No one cared.  Now CNBC lists Texas as the #1 state for business with very little economic downturn, low taxes (we don&#8217;t have state income taxes) and a state budget surplus.  Perhaps if Michigan wants to do something about it&#8217;s economy, it should take a trip south.</p>
<p>And what does Michigan, Ohio and Pennslyvania all have in common?  They are union controlled states with union bosses too stupid to make it in the business world on their own.  So they drag down the industries that those states do have.  And don&#8217;t give me any crap about being anti-union as I have been a member of the CWA for more years than I care to remember and I have seen how the CWA has handed it&#8217;s membership a bill of goods while it uses member dues to pander to the Democrats.  (CWA vs. Beck)</p>
<p>If one industry is dying, you don&#8217;t try to prop it up by raising taxes.  You seek other industries to create jobs.  You make your state appealing, not complain about the evil Republicans.</p>
<p>Gramm was right.  We have become a nation of whiners.  To reflect on what we once were (pioneers who asked nothing from their government) to what we are now.   A society that has become the people of the government, not the government of the people.  If left up to the mindset of today, no one would live past the Potomac River, or the Mississippi River at the very least.  We would all still be crowded into safe areas, waiting for the government to fix all our woes.</p>
<p>This government has become a system of reward for losers, and punishers of those who believe in self reliance and individual responsibility.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like Gramm, never have.  But he was right.  And for McCain to throw him under the bus shows that McCain is just as big a pander as Obama.  Not exactly a positive trait.</p>
<p>Tell Michigan, Ohio and Pennslyvania to handle their own problems and take an example from other states that have pulled themselves out of the red and not look to any politician to do it for them.</p>
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		<title>By: bobwire</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 05:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale thank you for reminding me of Obama's middle name. You are one sharp tack. Now, are you ready for Joseph (Stalin) Lieberman? Keep that chandelier well lit, son. Shine on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale thank you for reminding me of Obama&#8217;s middle name. You are one sharp tack. Now, are you ready for Joseph (Stalin) Lieberman? Keep that chandelier well lit, son. Shine on.</p>
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		<title>By: DrKrbyLuv</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrKrbyLuv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 23:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Thomas Jackson, Post #3

The truth is that the federal reserve system (not part of our government, but a private monopoly) started the whole thing by flooding the market with liquidity - inviting debt, both good and bad. 

We, as Americans have no say and either does our government. They print as much money and create as much liquidity as they want. They answer to no one and are siphoning off the wealth of the middle class. 

When Americans begin to understand that we have no control over the federal reserve, then they will begin to realize that the federal reserve actually controls us.

Most in government and many in the media know this but won't say a word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Thomas Jackson, Post #3</p>
<p>The truth is that the federal reserve system (not part of our government, but a private monopoly) started the whole thing by flooding the market with liquidity - inviting debt, both good and bad. </p>
<p>We, as Americans have no say and either does our government. They print as much money and create as much liquidity as they want. They answer to no one and are siphoning off the wealth of the middle class. </p>
<p>When Americans begin to understand that we have no control over the federal reserve, then they will begin to realize that the federal reserve actually controls us.</p>
<p>Most in government and many in the media know this but won&#8217;t say a word.</p>
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