Think about what the two phrases mean. I have. Iran is a greater threat to the United States than Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan ever were or likely ever could have been.

Many American and Western European leaders lack imagination. This was cited as one of the major things that allowed the 911 attacks to happen. People simply did not imaginae that method of attack. One area of attack that the Iranians might proceed on would be the use of computer viruses to disable the American military system all accross the board. This in conjunction with the use of multiple dirty bombs and perhaps multiple suit case nuclear weapons, as well as EMP weapons and the use of conventional forces could be all that the Iranians would need to conquer America. I hope and pray the American military is preparing for this contingency.

Btw, I finally thought of how the intergaltic fleet of ninja euqipped battleships might play a role. The Iranian leadership may be telling theri people about the Americans have a simillar type of technology. America is typically portrayed as a much more powerful country than it actually is. This makes it much easier to vilify.

“Unfortunatley many of them lack the imagination to think about these things.”

Think about what these two phrases of yours mean here.

“As to how any Iranian plans would be implemented, I think I partially explained how they could carry out their goals in the previos post, however, for a detailed plan one would need to ask the Iranian leadership.”

*sigh* Who could probably tell you about their intergalactic fleet of ninja equipped battleships. I give up.

I think it is you who needs to get some perspective. I think you are over estimating the power of Great Britian, America, and Israel. It would be very dangerous to overestimate one’s own power and to underestimate the power of a mortal enemy.

I’m not making any thing up. As to how any Iranian plans would be implemented, I think I partially explained how they could carry out their goals in the previos post, however, for a detailed plan one would need to ask the Iranian leadership.

Rather than being paranoid I think I am showing a healthy respect for a very dangerous enemy.

See, more nonsense. You failed utterly to explain how the Iranians prevent themselves from being turned into ash by our respective ballistic submarine fleets. You fail to explain how the Israelis are prevented from responding, or why. You fail to explain why you think that the UK won’t respond in kind to an attack on one of its closest allies. You conjure up hundreds of thousands of IRG fanatics infiltrating your country and you imagine that the Iranian leadership is openly declaring that he wants to invade and “take over” Britain.

This is all fantasy.

You’re just making this up from a paranoid base. I don’t expect you to see that because that’s what happens when you invest in paranoid fantasies, but please, just try to get some sort of perpective.

You suggest the British and the Israelis would come to the aid of the US. I don’t think so. Israel might be willing but they are a little busy with their own issues right now. With that said I think Israel will be destroying Iran’s nuclear facilties within the next few months. I don’t look for them to sit around and wait for Iran to destroy them. I don’t think Britian is willing to come to the aid of the US in this regard, however, they should be. The goal of the Iranians, as one Iranian leader said a few years ago with regards to Britian “we need to take it over.” They are more than capable of doing this. So the British military and civilian leadership should make it among their top priorities to prvent this.

I was using them to give some indication of the absurdity of your Iranian Invasion fears.

“The Iranian attack could come before American officails even have a chance to respond. ”

Quite apart from hoards of IRG members wielding nukes and dirty bombs enough to take out the EMP shielded command and control system in a first strike to end all first strikes (how many of these nukes would they need do you think? Are any of them bunker busters?) lets just try to deal with on of the many glaring holes.

How do the Iranian hordes plan to prevent Iran being turned into a cinder by US ballistic missile submarines? You’re not going to tell me that the Iranian sub fleet (such as it is) is going to disable the US sub fleet in one short sharp engagement are you? Or maybe the crafty Iranians have already substituted their own crews for the US crews?

For that matter how do they plan to deal with the obvious retalliation that would come from US allies such as Britain and Israel? Would Israel sit back and think “Oy Vey, we’ll leave them to it, after all we wouldn’t be next would we?”

Or do thay have similar armies of infiltrators hiding, nuclear armed, in the UK and Israel?

Honestly, you can’t see what utter nonsense this is?

Thanks for the reply to my post. I made no mention of the rapture or of alien abductions. i find it curious that you did.

How would an invasion of the US take place? First of all you assume incorrectly that the American population is well armed. This is not the case. Not only are they generally not well armed, very few of them have been trained in any kind of civil defense. The US has been lax in who it lets into the country. This continues to be the case even post 911. Given Iran’s enimity toward the US, it seems likely they would have had invasion force already in place even before the 911 attacks that would simply be waiting for the proper moment. The attack would likely involve the use of multiple dirty bombs in major cities. Perhaps some of those tacticul nuclear war heads that are missing from the Russian arsenal would be used. Some type of EMP weapon or other cyber attacks could be used to disable the US command and control system. Also, Iran possesses very sophisticated anti-ship missles that could conceivable take out the American forces in the Persian Gulf. Also, I think the Iranian arsenal includes submarines. The Iranian attack could come before American officails even have a chance to respond. No this is not paranoia. It is the reality and it would be in the interests of American officials to prepare for this.

Finally, setting off a nuke in LA does qualify as an invasion. It may not be an invasion in the manner that we think of as a traditional invasion but it is an invasion none the less.

Only because it is a ridiculous concern. If a majority of Americans were concerned that they might be abducted by aliens then I would also ridicule that. In fact, I feel no concern at all in ridiculing the idea that millions of people will be raptured any time soon.

Ridiculous ideas deserve ridicule, and the idea that Iran will invade the US (With what flotilla? Where will the beachheads be? How will they supress the armed population? What would stop the US from nuking Iran long before the troop carriers even approach the Atlantic?) is ridiculous and absurdly paranoid.

If you don’t think that it is ridiculous then please, feel free to explain how this invasion will take place. Not in vast amounts of detail, just a simple plan.

And no, setting off a nuke in LA is not an invasion. Even if they had any and were completely suicidal, it would be an attack. (yes, yes, a terrible attack with vast loss of life, but still not an invasion).

“The Iranians are perfectly capable and willing to pull it off without their assistance.”

Just talk me through how we get from where we are now to an Iranian occupation government in the US. With or without Russian and Chinese help.

When you can’t imagine an even vaguely plausible scenario, please consider whether the fear of an Iranian invasion of the US may, just may, be rampant paranoia.

Thanks for the reply to my post. (# 24 You may well be correct. I think allot of it would have to do with how much media publicity Maikis pleas for help receive. In other words, does saving the Maliki government or preventing Iraqi genocide fit the agenda of the main stream news media. If it does, then they may give his pleas some publicity which could lead to a groundswell of support to go back in. If not, then his pleas will not receive much publicity and their will be no ground swell of support.

Even if his pleas do get wide publicity, it really will not be up to Obama or Maliki whether or not the US military goes back in. I don’t think the American people will support sendig the military back in to prevent genocide or to prop up the Iraqi government.

Besides by the time we withdraw, which will likely be by 2010, the Iraqi military will be up to the task of handling internal security. I really don’t look for sectarian violence to flare back up to the level that it was. I think the only way the US military goes back in is if Islamic terrorists start to use Iraq as a base for attacking American interests.

If this does happen perhaps a President Obama or a President McCain will be better able to get other nations to assist us than the Bush Administraion has been. I’m not a supporter of either Obama or McCain but whoever gets elected I wish them well. The challenges are daunting and we will need assistnace.

I find nothing nizarre or Gobsmacking about anything I wrote. In fact there is nothing bizarre about it. For the record, in any invasion of the US Iran would probably have Russian and possibly Chinese assistance but it really isn’t necessary. The Iranians are perfectly capable and willing to pull it off without their assistance.

I think the attitude you demonstrate here has alot to do with why the Americans find diplomacy extemely difficult. You completely ridicule and dismiss out of hand a very real concern that many Americans have. This is also a concern that an American diplomat would and should have. When the concerns of one side are completely dismissed out of hand, diplomacy is very difficult, if not impossible.

While I’m not an Obama supporter, there would be a very real benefit if he were to be elected president. That is he seems to be favored by most foreign governments. If we elect him this would help our standing in other countries. Regardless of who wins the Presidential election one of the top priorities of the next President sjould be to fix America’s standing within other countries. Perhaps then we can get others to take our very legitmate concerns seriously.