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		<title>By: The Absurd Report &#187; Oil and Affirmative Action Can Redefine the Race by Rick Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Absurd Report &#187; Oil and Affirmative Action Can Redefine the Race by Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Weds. morning links...&lt;/strong&gt;

Good news: Ten things to be happy about - from the NYT!Can't read or write, but will know how to put on a condom.What Iran plans for the USA.Lying about the federal debt. Am ThinkerFat? Blame it on your neighborhood. Not your fault.Bush's remarkable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Weds. morning links&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Good news: Ten things to be happy about - from the NYT!Can&#8217;t read or write, but will know how to put on a condom.What Iran plans for the USA.Lying about the federal debt. Am ThinkerFat? Blame it on your neighborhood. Not your fault.Bush&#8217;s remarkable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Istanbruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Istanbruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what you're suggesting is copy Bush's bigotry message- no one has ever explained how gays marrying hurts anything- and squeeze every last drop of oil to avoid doing now what we should have done 35 years ago- a message basically laid out by Jimmy Carter in his much maligned "malaise speech." Affirmative Action may indeed be ready to be set aside only because the attitudes and reality of america today are (I'm being optimistic here)different than they were when it was implemented. What I'm saying is that it worked, despite the obvious problems with it and Obama actually being the Dems' candidate makes a good argument for this being true. But despite the fact that the message sent by AA is against the notion of everyone being equal and therefore against what everybody wants to believe is a core american value, repealing it also caters to the bigotry and racism that is also an american (but diminishing?)reality. Combine this with economic problems in millions of households and you get fear of those below you. Fear and bigotry do equal votes, so nice touch. You're intelligent enough to know that I'm not calling you a bigot? And drilling. Sorry but americans do pay far too little for gasoline and are spoiled. How many billions of miles weren't driven since gas went up? People will always seek the path of least resistance and given a reprieve, americans will continue on their wasteful ways.  Why can't alternative energy sources work? You have no faith in the american inventor, thinker or worker? Americans can be sold anything (see Bush's 2nd term) and if there was a national push- Madison Ave, business, government, universities, unions (that was a joke, what unions?) what couldn't be accomplished? Oil is the past and ? is the future. The debate over global warming may be contested but if it's true, what future? If it's not, oil will run out eventually so why not get ahead of the curve now? Bush claimed that america can't afford Kyoto ( a flawed piece of work) but can we afford to pay for the deterioration of health, environment, foreign policy, and a myriad of other issues caused by our insane use of the private automobile? Detroit got america rushing into suvs at exactly the wrong time and now China comes along and needs oil too. So give it to them and let's watch what happens to them in 40 years. It's (past)time for a radical transformation of how america powers itself and drilling will only deprive us of the Mother of Invention. Getting someone in the WH to actually do this is another problem but McCain's "tax holiday" shows exactly who shouldn't be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what you&#8217;re suggesting is copy Bush&#8217;s bigotry message- no one has ever explained how gays marrying hurts anything- and squeeze every last drop of oil to avoid doing now what we should have done 35 years ago- a message basically laid out by Jimmy Carter in his much maligned &#8220;malaise speech.&#8221; Affirmative Action may indeed be ready to be set aside only because the attitudes and reality of america today are (I&#8217;m being optimistic here)different than they were when it was implemented. What I&#8217;m saying is that it worked, despite the obvious problems with it and Obama actually being the Dems&#8217; candidate makes a good argument for this being true. But despite the fact that the message sent by AA is against the notion of everyone being equal and therefore against what everybody wants to believe is a core american value, repealing it also caters to the bigotry and racism that is also an american (but diminishing?)reality. Combine this with economic problems in millions of households and you get fear of those below you. Fear and bigotry do equal votes, so nice touch. You&#8217;re intelligent enough to know that I&#8217;m not calling you a bigot? And drilling. Sorry but americans do pay far too little for gasoline and are spoiled. How many billions of miles weren&#8217;t driven since gas went up? People will always seek the path of least resistance and given a reprieve, americans will continue on their wasteful ways.  Why can&#8217;t alternative energy sources work? You have no faith in the american inventor, thinker or worker? Americans can be sold anything (see Bush&#8217;s 2nd term) and if there was a national push- Madison Ave, business, government, universities, unions (that was a joke, what unions?) what couldn&#8217;t be accomplished? Oil is the past and ? is the future. The debate over global warming may be contested but if it&#8217;s true, what future? If it&#8217;s not, oil will run out eventually so why not get ahead of the curve now? Bush claimed that america can&#8217;t afford Kyoto ( a flawed piece of work) but can we afford to pay for the deterioration of health, environment, foreign policy, and a myriad of other issues caused by our insane use of the private automobile? Detroit got america rushing into suvs at exactly the wrong time and now China comes along and needs oil too. So give it to them and let&#8217;s watch what happens to them in 40 years. It&#8217;s (past)time for a radical transformation of how america powers itself and drilling will only deprive us of the Mother of Invention. Getting someone in the WH to actually do this is another problem but McCain&#8217;s &#8220;tax holiday&#8221; shows exactly who shouldn&#8217;t be there.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Wilcox</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name recognition is only good if it is branded well,McCain chose to irrevocably tie his name to the worst affront to the constitution by the Congress in my lifetime with McCain-Feingold.McCain chose to be an advocate for illegal aliens with no regard for the devastatin they have done to our Hospitals, Schools, Court system, National Forests, pedophiles/ rapists/ murderers/ thieves that mix with the tide of aliens at our borders, coverage they give to gangs &#38; drug smugglers and diseases they introduce into our society.Yeah he has name recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name recognition is only good if it is branded well,McCain chose to irrevocably tie his name to the worst affront to the constitution by the Congress in my lifetime with McCain-Feingold.McCain chose to be an advocate for illegal aliens with no regard for the devastatin they have done to our Hospitals, Schools, Court system, National Forests, pedophiles/ rapists/ murderers/ thieves that mix with the tide of aliens at our borders, coverage they give to gangs &amp; drug smugglers and diseases they introduce into our society.Yeah he has name recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just some thoughts

1, The cheap easy to pump and easy to refine oil has already been found. The offshore and Arctic oil is more costly to drill and pump Tar sand and shale oil extraction is even more expensive, but there is a vast supply.  Bottom line is that gas prices go up  because refining and extraction costs are up

2, Oil is a world commodity, even if we find more in the US that does not necessarily mean we get a special deal on price. The booming Asian economies are demanding more oil, even if you can extract more oil the demand keeps up with supply. The total oil reserves offshore are a drop in the bucket if you consider world demand. Prices might stagnate at best, or rise at a more gradual rate as tar sand and other sources come on line. 

Liberals and Conservatives can scream and yell and call each other Hitler all they want but the whole situation is basic economics, not politics.

Enough thinking, back to name calling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just some thoughts</p>
<p>1, The cheap easy to pump and easy to refine oil has already been found. The offshore and Arctic oil is more costly to drill and pump Tar sand and shale oil extraction is even more expensive, but there is a vast supply.  Bottom line is that gas prices go up  because refining and extraction costs are up</p>
<p>2, Oil is a world commodity, even if we find more in the US that does not necessarily mean we get a special deal on price. The booming Asian economies are demanding more oil, even if you can extract more oil the demand keeps up with supply. The total oil reserves offshore are a drop in the bucket if you consider world demand. Prices might stagnate at best, or rise at a more gradual rate as tar sand and other sources come on line. </p>
<p>Liberals and Conservatives can scream and yell and call each other Hitler all they want but the whole situation is basic economics, not politics.</p>
<p>Enough thinking, back to name calling!</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain barely has a prayer.  No one gives a damn about affirmative action.  And the drilling thing is a sideshow.  It's not nothing, but it is a second tier issue.  

It's going to be an "economy stupid" election.  And on that issue McCain really is just another doctrinaire Republican.  

McCain is a guy with nearly 100% name recognition who can't break 45%.  And his campaign is apparently being run as a sort of extended Borat routine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain barely has a prayer.  No one gives a damn about affirmative action.  And the drilling thing is a sideshow.  It&#8217;s not nothing, but it is a second tier issue.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to be an &#8220;economy stupid&#8221; election.  And on that issue McCain really is just another doctrinaire Republican.  </p>
<p>McCain is a guy with nearly 100% name recognition who can&#8217;t break 45%.  And his campaign is apparently being run as a sort of extended Borat routine.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Raymond Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Raymond Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's one Obama problem that hasn't gotten enarly the mileage it should have yet...

Obama advisor Richard Danzig claimed that Winnie the Pooh would be a good model for U.S. Foreign Policy and national Security. “Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton and is tipped to become National Security Adviser in an Obama White House, told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else. Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”

It was covered in the U.K Press, but nowhere to be seen in the Antique Media. I wonder why? Could it be that it is so ridiculous that it would make the Obamessiah’s Foreign Policy look like a complete and utter joke? Check out the article and decide for yourself if you think having Winnie the Pooh foreign policy is, or isn’t a monumental gaffe. Check this out: “Winnie the Pooh, Luke Skywalker and British football hooligans could shape the foreign policy of Barack Obama if he becomes US President, according to a key adviser.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2139573/Barack-Obama-aide-Why-Winnie-the-Pooh-should-shape-US-foreign-policy.html. Or, just Google “winnie the pooh foreign policy obama. ROTFLMAO

For a fairly complete list of Obama's gaffes go to: http://jraymondwright.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one Obama problem that hasn&#8217;t gotten enarly the mileage it should have yet&#8230;</p>
<p>Obama advisor Richard Danzig claimed that Winnie the Pooh would be a good model for U.S. Foreign Policy and national Security. “Richard Danzig, who served as Navy Secretary under President Clinton and is tipped to become National Security Adviser in an Obama White House, told a major foreign policy conference in Washington that the future of US strategy in the war on terrorism should follow a lesson from the pages of Winnie the Pooh, which can be shortened to: if it is causing you too much pain, try something else. Mr Danzig told the Centre for New American Security: “Winnie the Pooh seems to me to be a fundamental text on national security.”</p>
<p>It was covered in the U.K Press, but nowhere to be seen in the Antique Media. I wonder why? Could it be that it is so ridiculous that it would make the Obamessiah’s Foreign Policy look like a complete and utter joke? Check out the article and decide for yourself if you think having Winnie the Pooh foreign policy is, or isn’t a monumental gaffe. Check this out: “Winnie the Pooh, Luke Skywalker and British football hooligans could shape the foreign policy of Barack Obama if he becomes US President, according to a key adviser.” <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2139573/Barack-Obama-aide-Why-Winnie-the-Pooh-should-shape-US-foreign-policy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2139573/Barack-Obama-aide-Why-Winnie-the-Pooh-should-shape-US-foreign-policy.html</a>. Or, just Google “winnie the pooh foreign policy obama. ROTFLMAO</p>
<p>For a fairly complete list of Obama&#8217;s gaffes go to: <a href="http://jraymondwright.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://jraymondwright.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: headhunt23</title>
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		<dc:creator>headhunt23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is aggrevating here is that McCain has an easy path to victory.

Here is a post I did a week ago over at slate:

"1. Nominate Sarah Palin as VP. Makes the ticket younger, much more attractive, and more attractive to women. Also boxes in Obama. He either takes a woman and looks "me too" or takes a man and further reinforces the perception that his is chauvinist.

"2. Unleash Palin to talk oil and gas. She is good at it, and she believes it, just like McCain believes in the war on terror. 

"3. Gas prices ARE the path to success for McCain, he just doesn't need to be personally blaming Obama for them. The democrats over the past 15 years will do just fine.

"This is a pocketbook election and, Americans are very wary to candidate's claims of their ability to "fix" the economy, as well they should be. But, gas prices are, to a not insignificant extent, affected by governmental policy on drilling. McCain-Palin can point to steps such as drilling in ANWAR, uncapping the offshore oil wells, and doing new drilling and say "well, first we will have a speculation premium of $X a barrell removed, which will mean $Y amount off at the pump which will result in $Z more money in the average American's pocket book over the next year. Then the oil from the uncapped rigs will come on and give us A more barrells of oil, which will then result in..." and so on. That is a lot more tangible than saying "I'm going to increase your pay and keep good jobs here in America." The workers have been hearing that since the late 70s. I think they're done believing it. America will take the bird in the hand.

"And, this is an issue that Obama is helpless on. He can't promote drilling without pi$$ing offf the environmentalist crowd, all he can offer is magic beans about mysterious fuels that will suddenly be invented, be commercial ready, and be infrastructure ready before Exxon can drop a hole in the artic, or remove a well cover 10 miles off of the coast of California.

"4. Lastly, McCain needs to explain why we are going to have to continue to prosecute the war on terror, and why it is important. No unbiased observers really feel that Obama is serious about fighting terror (look at his website and find evidence he is - he found room for "faith" and "disabilities" but not for "war on terror" or "Afghanistan", and his comments on Iraq were about how to get out quickly). But, that isn't good enough - McCain has to explain WHY Americans should care.

"If he can do these things, he will win. Obama is a very weak opponent, despite the entire media being in the bag for him. Obama should have a 20 point lead right now, instead he is barely ahead (if at all)."

Now, we add a fifth point about running against affirmative action, that puts the campaign squarely on what should be McCain turf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is aggrevating here is that McCain has an easy path to victory.</p>
<p>Here is a post I did a week ago over at slate:</p>
<p>&#8220;1. Nominate Sarah Palin as VP. Makes the ticket younger, much more attractive, and more attractive to women. Also boxes in Obama. He either takes a woman and looks &#8220;me too&#8221; or takes a man and further reinforces the perception that his is chauvinist.</p>
<p>&#8220;2. Unleash Palin to talk oil and gas. She is good at it, and she believes it, just like McCain believes in the war on terror. </p>
<p>&#8220;3. Gas prices ARE the path to success for McCain, he just doesn&#8217;t need to be personally blaming Obama for them. The democrats over the past 15 years will do just fine.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a pocketbook election and, Americans are very wary to candidate&#8217;s claims of their ability to &#8220;fix&#8221; the economy, as well they should be. But, gas prices are, to a not insignificant extent, affected by governmental policy on drilling. McCain-Palin can point to steps such as drilling in ANWAR, uncapping the offshore oil wells, and doing new drilling and say &#8220;well, first we will have a speculation premium of $X a barrell removed, which will mean $Y amount off at the pump which will result in $Z more money in the average American&#8217;s pocket book over the next year. Then the oil from the uncapped rigs will come on and give us A more barrells of oil, which will then result in&#8230;&#8221; and so on. That is a lot more tangible than saying &#8220;I&#8217;m going to increase your pay and keep good jobs here in America.&#8221; The workers have been hearing that since the late 70s. I think they&#8217;re done believing it. America will take the bird in the hand.</p>
<p>&#8220;And, this is an issue that Obama is helpless on. He can&#8217;t promote drilling without pi$$ing offf the environmentalist crowd, all he can offer is magic beans about mysterious fuels that will suddenly be invented, be commercial ready, and be infrastructure ready before Exxon can drop a hole in the artic, or remove a well cover 10 miles off of the coast of California.</p>
<p>&#8220;4. Lastly, McCain needs to explain why we are going to have to continue to prosecute the war on terror, and why it is important. No unbiased observers really feel that Obama is serious about fighting terror (look at his website and find evidence he is - he found room for &#8220;faith&#8221; and &#8220;disabilities&#8221; but not for &#8220;war on terror&#8221; or &#8220;Afghanistan&#8221;, and his comments on Iraq were about how to get out quickly). But, that isn&#8217;t good enough - McCain has to explain WHY Americans should care.</p>
<p>&#8220;If he can do these things, he will win. Obama is a very weak opponent, despite the entire media being in the bag for him. Obama should have a 20 point lead right now, instead he is barely ahead (if at all).&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, we add a fifth point about running against affirmative action, that puts the campaign squarely on what should be McCain turf.</p>
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		<title>By: james wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>james wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coulda, soulda, woulda. Beating Obonga is fairly simple, but not with this nag. 
As simple as it is to already envision McCains concession speech (my good friend Barrak....working together...) it is impossible to imagine McCain becoming an advocate for liberty and American entrepreneurship. He is the product of the rotting wreck of an ego and neoconservative manipulation, nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coulda, soulda, woulda. Beating Obonga is fairly simple, but not with this nag.<br />
As simple as it is to already envision McCains concession speech (my good friend Barrak&#8230;.working together&#8230;) it is impossible to imagine McCain becoming an advocate for liberty and American entrepreneurship. He is the product of the rotting wreck of an ego and neoconservative manipulation, nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SlimGuy (comment 5)- the night that story broke, I told my wife that I would bet a paycheck that it was a setup by the Obama campaign.  Since she already gets my paycheck, I wish the bet had been for sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SlimGuy (comment 5)- the night that story broke, I told my wife that I would bet a paycheck that it was a setup by the Obama campaign.  Since she already gets my paycheck, I wish the bet had been for sex.</p>
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