Comments on: OBAMA’S COMPLICATED DANCE WITH THE CHICAGO MACHINE http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Mon, 25 May 2026 20:45:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Obama: “Lipstick on a pig is still a pig” « Wolking’s World http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1642213 Obama: “Lipstick on a pig is still a pig” « Wolking’s World Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:43:40 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1642213 [...] Barry, you can put a flag lapel pin on a terrorist-schmoozing, Marxist-mentored, racist-taught Chicago machine politician full of nonsensical rhetoric, but in the end he’s still a Hamas-endorsed, partisan, [...] [...] Barry, you can put a flag lapel pin on a terrorist-schmoozing, Marxist-mentored, racist-taught Chicago machine politician full of nonsensical rhetoric, but in the end he’s still a Hamas-endorsed, partisan, [...]

]]> By: Surabaya Stew http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1629992 Surabaya Stew Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:55:27 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1629992 Hey Drewsmom, why don't you judge Bush by the company he keeps with the House of Saud? (There's a true bunch of terrorists for you!) And what about the Keating 5? McCain did nothing wrong, yet he still kept company with them. Does that disqualify him? My point was, who is closer to the Military Industrial Complex; McCain or Obama? Even the most partisan Republican would have a hard time calling Obama a tool of defense industry. Which is why after 7 years of the "war on terror", I can't bring myself to vote for a man who has stated he will continue fighting to "defend America". As typical, our own worst enemy can be found by looking in the mirror. Hey Drewsmom, why don’t you judge Bush by the company he keeps with the House of Saud? (There’s a true bunch of terrorists for you!) And what about the Keating 5? McCain did nothing wrong, yet he still kept company with them. Does that disqualify him? My point was, who is closer to the Military Industrial Complex; McCain or Obama? Even the most partisan Republican would have a hard time calling Obama a tool of defense industry. Which is why after 7 years of the “war on terror”, I can’t bring myself to vote for a man who has stated he will continue fighting to “defend America”. As typical, our own worst enemy can be found by looking in the mirror.

]]> By: Drewsmom http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1629845 Drewsmom Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:25:56 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1629845 Surabaya, you just don't get it. You are judged by the company you keep, obama has kept bad company big time, can't really say that about McCain. Surabaya, you just don’t get it.
You are judged by the company you keep, obama has kept bad company big time, can’t really say that about McCain.

]]> By: Surabaya Stew http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1629473 Surabaya Stew Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:50:43 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1629473 I'd rather have the Chicago Machine running the country than the Military Industrial Complex. I’d rather have the Chicago Machine running the country than the Military Industrial Complex.

]]> By: MATTHEW ROSE http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1628857 MATTHEW ROSE Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:24:46 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1628857 Making it this far says quite a lot about Obama. In the end, it's this image – on my website - that will put Obama in the White House. Well, that's what I think. MR Making it this far says quite a lot about Obama. In the end, it’s this image – on my website - that will put Obama in the White House. Well, that’s what I think.

MR

]]> By: Naga http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1628328 Naga Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:43:10 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1628328 Bill Arnold, Responding to some of your comments. "A guy who can pull this off is a guy who stands a better chance negotiating and working with dodgy world leaders like Putin. (The Chicago machine is not unknown outside the U.S.) Obama has said as much, though I can’t find the quote. (Something about don’t assume he can’t do rough politics.)" Please.. he could not even shut Hillary off from the convention after saying that there was no need for "catharsis" but more need for energy... he ended up going for the catharsis. not a great piece of negotiaton, was it ? To equate his wheelings and dealings with these cronies to dealing with people like Putin misses one essential point - Putin is not obliged to do any thing for America/Obama or any one and he has his own interests to look after - unless of course Obama is willing to offer him Ukraine, Georgia as peace offerings (no American support, no NATO membership, recognition of Russian "sphere of influence" etc). His running mate Joe Biden would nt like that idea much, me thinks. International politics is a lot more complicated as it has a number of competing interest groups and unforseeable factors and limited control over how things can shape up - Chicago political experience can only help you so far. Just my opinion. Bill Arnold,
Responding to some of your comments.

“A guy who can pull this off is a guy who stands a better chance negotiating and working with dodgy world leaders like Putin. (The Chicago machine is not unknown outside the U.S.) Obama has said as much, though I can’t find the quote. (Something about don’t assume he can’t do rough politics.)”
Please.. he could not even shut Hillary off from the convention after saying that there was no need for “catharsis” but more need for energy… he ended up going for the catharsis. not a great piece of negotiaton, was it ?

To equate his wheelings and dealings with these cronies to
dealing with people like Putin misses one essential point - Putin is not obliged to do any thing for America/Obama or any one and he has his own interests to look after - unless of course Obama is willing to offer him Ukraine, Georgia as peace offerings (no American support, no NATO membership, recognition of Russian “sphere of influence” etc). His running mate Joe Biden would nt like that idea much, me thinks.

International politics is a lot more complicated as it has a number of competing interest groups and unforseeable factors and limited control over how things can shape up - Chicago political experience can only help you so far. Just my opinion.

]]> By: Naga http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1628324 Naga Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:33:12 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1628324 Rick, Could you please explain what is the significance of Obama moving the DNC headquarters to Chicago ? Does this mean Daley and his cronies find new ..ahem.. revenue streams to enrich themselves ? not to mention they become official power brokers ? My first thoughts when i heard the news about him shifting the HQ to Chicago was that he was doing this in part to help his crooked ally, that weasel we have for Illinois Governer - especially after his nemesis Madigan, speaker of the House was distributing material on how legislators could impeach Blagojevich. This move probably pre-empted Madigan from doing any thing high profile/embarassing to a fellow Democrat in a year where a Chicago pol could be elected President. But of course,it would also mean handing over the reigns of the DNC to the Daley cronies including Axelrod - so do they now get to "meet" new donors and bundlers that have not yet come in contact with Chicago machine politics ? Awaiting your response. Rick,
Could you please explain what is the significance of Obama moving the DNC headquarters to Chicago ? Does this mean Daley and his cronies find new ..ahem.. revenue streams to enrich themselves ? not to mention they become official power brokers ?

My first thoughts when i heard the news about him shifting the HQ to Chicago was that he was doing this in part to help his crooked ally, that weasel we have for Illinois Governer - especially after his nemesis Madigan, speaker of the House was distributing material on how legislators could impeach Blagojevich.

This move probably pre-empted Madigan from doing any thing high profile/embarassing to a fellow Democrat in a year where a Chicago pol could be elected President.

But of course,it would also mean handing over the reigns of the DNC to the Daley cronies including Axelrod - so do they now get to “meet” new donors and bundlers that have not yet come in contact with Chicago machine politics ?

Awaiting your response.

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]]> By: Bill Arnold http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/comment-page-1/#comment-1628261 Bill Arnold Sun, 24 Aug 2008 21:18:01 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/08/24/obamas-complicated-dance-with-the-chicago-machine/#comment-1628261 <i>The fact that both sides in this debate over Obama’s ties – or lack of them – to the Machine have ammunition for their arguments should tell you a lot about how Obama has managed this sticky, complicated relationship over the years.</i> The plus side is that BObama's political skills have been honed by working 1/2 in and 1/2 out of the Chicago machine. A guy who can pull this off is a guy who stands a better chance negotiating and working with dodgy world leaders like Putin. (The Chicago machine is not unknown outside the U.S.) Obama has said as much, though I can't find the quote. (Something about don't assume he can't do rough politics.) The fact that both sides in this debate over Obama’s ties – or lack of them – to the Machine have ammunition for their arguments should tell you a lot about how Obama has managed this sticky, complicated relationship over the years.

The plus side is that BObama’s political skills have been honed by working 1/2 in and 1/2 out of the Chicago machine.

A guy who can pull this off is a guy who stands a better chance negotiating and working with dodgy world leaders like Putin. (The Chicago machine is not unknown outside the U.S.) Obama has said as much, though I can’t find the quote. (Something about don’t assume he can’t do rough politics.)

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