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		<title>By: DoorHold</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoorHold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that an Obama Presidency wouldn't be an unmitigated disaster, there's only so much a President can actually accomplish -- short-term.

 There are plenty of problems in this country, regardless of who's in the Oval Office. The positive spin is that there are plenty of things RIGHT with this country and we will manage to improve in many areas, again, regardless of who's in the Oval Office.

 However, things do add up over time. A foot in the door seldom withdraws without a concerted effort to remove it. The changes promised by Obama worry me more -- long-term -- than the changes promised by McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that an Obama Presidency wouldn&#8217;t be an unmitigated disaster, there&#8217;s only so much a President can actually accomplish &#8212; short-term.</p>
<p> There are plenty of problems in this country, regardless of who&#8217;s in the Oval Office. The positive spin is that there are plenty of things RIGHT with this country and we will manage to improve in many areas, again, regardless of who&#8217;s in the Oval Office.</p>
<p> However, things do add up over time. A foot in the door seldom withdraws without a concerted effort to remove it. The changes promised by Obama worry me more &#8212; long-term &#8212; than the changes promised by McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew the Noisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew the Noisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, I can't agree.

The best way to improve the Republican brand is with a successful McCain administration (one-term, IMHO) that brings through one or two items of serious bipartisan reform (slaying the earmark beast, for example). More than that we can't expect out of him, but that in itself would be worthwhile.

Absent a true disaster, their will never be a slate-clearing 100 days for Conservatives. Our victories will be offset by defeats and slips, and the same political shenanigans that Washington embodies. 

The "younger generation" reached the majors by the same process as their elders, give them some time in Washington, they two will have swimming pools full of lobbyists. It's the nature of the place.

A serious Conservative congress and administrations should focus on these things, in order:

1. Government issues: increasing transparency, decreasing lobbyism, decreasing the budget, reforming entitlements. Serious and revenue-negative tax reform.

2. Economic issues: reducing government oversight of resources and capital management while INcreasing the investigative and punitive authority over business fraud. We should be making it easier to start business that make and do things, and more dangerous for the upper echelon of the corporate world to string their bottom-line along. Phase out all government corporations, from Fannie and Freddie to Amtrak.

3. Foreign Policy -- maintain the sea lanes, protect our allies, hunt our enemies. The rest is mere details. Tell the UN to bugger itself.

4. Cultural Issues -- Our motto needs to be "IATFL" Irrelevant At The Federal Level. In other words, its time to remember what the 10th Amendment states, and start reminding everyone else-- from the Supremes on down.

If McCain can manage any of the first or fourth, he'll make it easier for the second and the third. We need to keep this in mind during the myriad of boneheaded plays he'll lay down. He's not our kind of guy, but he represents an opportunity in exactly his area of experience. We would be foolish indeed to pass that up so we can have the next Newt Gingrich. In the end, both serve us in a similar manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, I can&#8217;t agree.</p>
<p>The best way to improve the Republican brand is with a successful McCain administration (one-term, IMHO) that brings through one or two items of serious bipartisan reform (slaying the earmark beast, for example). More than that we can&#8217;t expect out of him, but that in itself would be worthwhile.</p>
<p>Absent a true disaster, their will never be a slate-clearing 100 days for Conservatives. Our victories will be offset by defeats and slips, and the same political shenanigans that Washington embodies. </p>
<p>The &#8220;younger generation&#8221; reached the majors by the same process as their elders, give them some time in Washington, they two will have swimming pools full of lobbyists. It&#8217;s the nature of the place.</p>
<p>A serious Conservative congress and administrations should focus on these things, in order:</p>
<p>1. Government issues: increasing transparency, decreasing lobbyism, decreasing the budget, reforming entitlements. Serious and revenue-negative tax reform.</p>
<p>2. Economic issues: reducing government oversight of resources and capital management while INcreasing the investigative and punitive authority over business fraud. We should be making it easier to start business that make and do things, and more dangerous for the upper echelon of the corporate world to string their bottom-line along. Phase out all government corporations, from Fannie and Freddie to Amtrak.</p>
<p>3. Foreign Policy &#8212; maintain the sea lanes, protect our allies, hunt our enemies. The rest is mere details. Tell the UN to bugger itself.</p>
<p>4. Cultural Issues &#8212; Our motto needs to be &#8220;IATFL&#8221; Irrelevant At The Federal Level. In other words, its time to remember what the 10th Amendment states, and start reminding everyone else&#8211; from the Supremes on down.</p>
<p>If McCain can manage any of the first or fourth, he&#8217;ll make it easier for the second and the third. We need to keep this in mind during the myriad of boneheaded plays he&#8217;ll lay down. He&#8217;s not our kind of guy, but he represents an opportunity in exactly his area of experience. We would be foolish indeed to pass that up so we can have the next Newt Gingrich. In the end, both serve us in a similar manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggyrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggyrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 05:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew! Now I remember why I stopped reading this blog. What's the deal Rlck, loosing the 2006 congressional elections wasn't enough for you? Now you think sending America down the road towards some socialist utopia is just okey dokey because it might make the Republican party respond more to your liking? This election isn't about some intellectual excercise or the realignment of one political party or the other. This is about the future of our nation, not the party, either party. Jimminy cricket, dude, dial back the pessimism, it's unseemly. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go read something a little more upbeat, maybe John Stienbecks "The grapes of wrath" or something equally uplifting.


&lt;em&gt;The reason you stopped reading this blog is your lack of comprehension. Things go right over your head and you never notice the breeze.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I do not agree that the election of Barack Obama would lead to socialism. Bush is doing that very well with this bailout right now so your arguement is specious. And if its national health insurance you hate, stay home on election day or perhaps vote for Bob Barr. Even then it won't matter. I can guarantee you that some form of national health insurance will be passed by Congress by May of 2009 whether its Obama or McCain won't matter. 

ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew! Now I remember why I stopped reading this blog. What&#8217;s the deal Rlck, loosing the 2006 congressional elections wasn&#8217;t enough for you? Now you think sending America down the road towards some socialist utopia is just okey dokey because it might make the Republican party respond more to your liking? This election isn&#8217;t about some intellectual excercise or the realignment of one political party or the other. This is about the future of our nation, not the party, either party. Jimminy cricket, dude, dial back the pessimism, it&#8217;s unseemly. Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me I&#8217;m going to go read something a little more upbeat, maybe John Stienbecks &#8220;The grapes of wrath&#8221; or something equally uplifting.</p>
<p><em>The reason you stopped reading this blog is your lack of comprehension. Things go right over your head and you never notice the breeze.</em></p>
<p><em>I do not agree that the election of Barack Obama would lead to socialism. Bush is doing that very well with this bailout right now so your arguement is specious. And if its national health insurance you hate, stay home on election day or perhaps vote for Bob Barr. Even then it won&#8217;t matter. I can guarantee you that some form of national health insurance will be passed by Congress by May of 2009 whether its Obama or McCain won&#8217;t matter. </p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll take my chances with John McCain over the empty suit Obama. Maybe even more important is to get more people like Gov. Jindal in congress then in the white house. But for now McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take my chances with John McCain over the empty suit Obama. Maybe even more important is to get more people like Gov. Jindal in congress then in the white house. But for now McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: charlie dorfman</title>
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		<dc:creator>charlie dorfman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a simple guy. In this essay Rick is too smart by half. All you theoriticians beware of the Law of Unintended Consequences. None of us can strategize the complexities of the future.

I say we have two candidates from which to pick. Choose the one you like best , or who is the least offensive, and vote for that candidate. What happens next, none of us can predict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a simple guy. In this essay Rick is too smart by half. All you theoriticians beware of the Law of Unintended Consequences. None of us can strategize the complexities of the future.</p>
<p>I say we have two candidates from which to pick. Choose the one you like best , or who is the least offensive, and vote for that candidate. What happens next, none of us can predict.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all who are running around in circles and predicting outcomes: this will be close. I have always thought so and it shouldn't surprise anyone. I'm not going into politics, just the horse race aspect of it. McCain probably made a life saving move with Palin energizing the base and Team Obama run a more effective campaign than Gore and Kerry combined. Whether you like it or not it is and will be 50/50. Thought this was fun:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/09/the_state_of_the_race.html

What does that have to do with reform? Nothing! Probably elections are not the best time for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all who are running around in circles and predicting outcomes: this will be close. I have always thought so and it shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone. I&#8217;m not going into politics, just the horse race aspect of it. McCain probably made a life saving move with Palin energizing the base and Team Obama run a more effective campaign than Gore and Kerry combined. Whether you like it or not it is and will be 50/50. Thought this was fun:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/09/the_state_of_the_race.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/09/the_state_of_the_race.html</a></p>
<p>What does that have to do with reform? Nothing! Probably elections are not the best time for that.</p>
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		<title>By: RichmondG30</title>
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		<dc:creator>RichmondG30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to have any credibility on the issue of destroying the power of special interests and cleaning house in Washington would be for every Republican candidate to pledge to serve no more than 6 years (one Senate term or three House terms).  The reason nobody believes those who run on the platform of "reform" or "cleaning up Washington" is because, once elected, they settle into the cozy office and start attending the nice parties with the good booze and getting the free Redskins tickets and THEY NEVER LEAVE!  For God's sake, look at Congress since the Democratic agents of change took power!

They need a modern day version of the Contract with America that every candidate can SIGN.  Problem is the Republican party is not willing to do that.  They don't want real change.  They are still just trying to find a way to obtain power, and "reform" rolls off the tongue so nicely...

We reap what we sow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to have any credibility on the issue of destroying the power of special interests and cleaning house in Washington would be for every Republican candidate to pledge to serve no more than 6 years (one Senate term or three House terms).  The reason nobody believes those who run on the platform of &#8220;reform&#8221; or &#8220;cleaning up Washington&#8221; is because, once elected, they settle into the cozy office and start attending the nice parties with the good booze and getting the free Redskins tickets and THEY NEVER LEAVE!  For God&#8217;s sake, look at Congress since the Democratic agents of change took power!</p>
<p>They need a modern day version of the Contract with America that every candidate can SIGN.  Problem is the Republican party is not willing to do that.  They don&#8217;t want real change.  They are still just trying to find a way to obtain power, and &#8220;reform&#8221; rolls off the tongue so nicely&#8230;</p>
<p>We reap what we sow.</p>
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		<title>By: JDM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JDM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see a McCain shit_fit, in the dem news.
We all know the guy can/will do it.
Dinnerjacket, Putlin, ETC, 
THEY ARE WORRIED.
McCain, GO CRAZY....
Wadduya got to lose?
I am not, by the way, A Concerned christian consertive
trying to astro-rug this blog!
I do think, however, that XERXES, URKEL, OBAMA, will destroy everthing we hold dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see a McCain shit_fit, in the dem news.<br />
We all know the guy can/will do it.<br />
Dinnerjacket, Putlin, ETC,<br />
THEY ARE WORRIED.<br />
McCain, GO CRAZY&#8230;.<br />
Wadduya got to lose?<br />
I am not, by the way, A Concerned christian consertive<br />
trying to astro-rug this blog!<br />
I do think, however, that XERXES, URKEL, OBAMA, will destroy everthing we hold dear.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is NOT a fiscal conservative, McCain is.

Obama does not have any executive experience at all.

Obama does not have any financial credentials at all.

Obama is in the tank with Black Liberationists.

McCain has proven that he is his own man, and can lead the Republicans out of their misery.
McCain is very forthright about the need to turn the party around, and become fiscally more prudent.
  
McCain has more insight into military affairs than Obama by a long margin. We need a President that can deal with the Pentagon, the Iraqi situation, Iran, and Afghanistan, just to name the most pressing of our military engagements.
With our financial crisis weakening us, we need McCain far more than some liberal academic pipsqueek Democrat, Obama-the-God (Hmmm..LAPDOG!) from the Chicago Machine leading us in a time of great peril from those who would bring us down.  

LAPDOG is the least qualified candidate for President ever, in my lifetime.

Biden is a joke--an expensive and gaffe-prone joke at that. He lets the Democrat's secrets out, to thier great embarassment, if you read closely!

Vote Republican!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is NOT a fiscal conservative, McCain is.</p>
<p>Obama does not have any executive experience at all.</p>
<p>Obama does not have any financial credentials at all.</p>
<p>Obama is in the tank with Black Liberationists.</p>
<p>McCain has proven that he is his own man, and can lead the Republicans out of their misery.<br />
McCain is very forthright about the need to turn the party around, and become fiscally more prudent.</p>
<p>McCain has more insight into military affairs than Obama by a long margin. We need a President that can deal with the Pentagon, the Iraqi situation, Iran, and Afghanistan, just to name the most pressing of our military engagements.<br />
With our financial crisis weakening us, we need McCain far more than some liberal academic pipsqueek Democrat, Obama-the-God (Hmmm..LAPDOG!) from the Chicago Machine leading us in a time of great peril from those who would bring us down.  </p>
<p>LAPDOG is the least qualified candidate for President ever, in my lifetime.</p>
<p>Biden is a joke&#8211;an expensive and gaffe-prone joke at that. He lets the Democrat&#8217;s secrets out, to thier great embarassment, if you read closely!</p>
<p>Vote Republican!</p>
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		<title>By: The Rude Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rude Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This fight inside the right is already taking place.

It is not time to sit on your asses and claim neither party represents you.

The age of "compassionate" conservatism is waning, as is relying on taxpayers to bail out private industry. It is hard work, but the fight for real fiscal conservatism must continue well after the McCain election until the big spending mindset is dead, dead, dead.

http://www.therudenews.com/archives/781

Barry: "unfettered free markets"? You mean like theses two GSEs that came crashing down with all of their liberal economic oversight? I seem to remember the Prez saying this would happen five years ago.

Phil Graham? You ignored Frank Raines, James Johnson and all of that GSE money the democrats have taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fight inside the right is already taking place.</p>
<p>It is not time to sit on your asses and claim neither party represents you.</p>
<p>The age of &#8220;compassionate&#8221; conservatism is waning, as is relying on taxpayers to bail out private industry. It is hard work, but the fight for real fiscal conservatism must continue well after the McCain election until the big spending mindset is dead, dead, dead.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.therudenews.com/archives/781" rel="nofollow">http://www.therudenews.com/archives/781</a></p>
<p>Barry: &#8220;unfettered free markets&#8221;? You mean like theses two GSEs that came crashing down with all of their liberal economic oversight? I seem to remember the Prez saying this would happen five years ago.</p>
<p>Phil Graham? You ignored Frank Raines, James Johnson and all of that GSE money the democrats have taken.</p>
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