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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not over,,,,,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not over,,,,,,</p>
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		<title>By: llmpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>llmpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Electoral Vote is another way to hold the people down and not allow the voice of the people to be real. Because they can't trust us and me fellow Americans. It is like taxation without representation - and all the pork belly pigs put together. 

There should be no such thing as a career politician there should be term limits and they should be out of office.
This would clean up Washington and should make they much more transparent. However if you insist in having Obama I will be glad to let him take the failed economy down more and the Dem's get the blame. 

I never really realized how many socialist we have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Electoral Vote is another way to hold the people down and not allow the voice of the people to be real. Because they can&#8217;t trust us and me fellow Americans. It is like taxation without representation - and all the pork belly pigs put together. </p>
<p>There should be no such thing as a career politician there should be term limits and they should be out of office.<br />
This would clean up Washington and should make they much more transparent. However if you insist in having Obama I will be glad to let him take the failed economy down more and the Dem&#8217;s get the blame. </p>
<p>I never really realized how many socialist we have.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gurldoggie,
thank you, I couldn't have said it better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gurldoggie,<br />
thank you, I couldn&#8217;t have said it better.</p>
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		<title>By: Gurldoggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gurldoggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis Rick, this blog is quickly becoming the go-to blog for free-thinking conservatives.

Regarding your update, the days of the Right wing "echo chamber" are over, whether or not all of your readers realize it. The weird pathology of one-mind orthodoxy that developed among conservatives since Clinton has simply ceased to serve us. Failed policies are failed policies, it doesn't matter how loudly a political party wants to scream otherwise. The future of the Republican party lies with thinkers like you, Kathleen Parker, Christopher Buckley, and other smart people who are unafraid of entertaining new ideas and different approaches to entrenched problems. 

On a related note, the liberals don't need the Fairness Doctrine to make conservative media irrelevant. We've done it to ourselves by repeating each others' empty rhetoric ad infinitum and refusing to adapt our thinking to changing circumstances. I look forward to a new generation of intelligent conservative representation, and if it takes a painful electoral defeat to get there, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good analysis Rick, this blog is quickly becoming the go-to blog for free-thinking conservatives.</p>
<p>Regarding your update, the days of the Right wing &#8220;echo chamber&#8221; are over, whether or not all of your readers realize it. The weird pathology of one-mind orthodoxy that developed among conservatives since Clinton has simply ceased to serve us. Failed policies are failed policies, it doesn&#8217;t matter how loudly a political party wants to scream otherwise. The future of the Republican party lies with thinkers like you, Kathleen Parker, Christopher Buckley, and other smart people who are unafraid of entertaining new ideas and different approaches to entrenched problems. </p>
<p>On a related note, the liberals don&#8217;t need the Fairness Doctrine to make conservative media irrelevant. We&#8217;ve done it to ourselves by repeating each others&#8217; empty rhetoric ad infinitum and refusing to adapt our thinking to changing circumstances. I look forward to a new generation of intelligent conservative representation, and if it takes a painful electoral defeat to get there, so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Basically Rick your analysis of both McCain's debate performance and the Republican predicament are on the money. McCain's performance the other night was fairly dire, the split screen images showing his agitation and tics was brutal. The invocations from some of "Joe the Plumber" are risible, Joe has turned out to be a phony, someone who doesn't earn anywhere near $250k a year, doesn't have a plumbers license, and has fiddled his taxes. As for Palin words fail me, if the GOP think she's the future we're out of power for 25 years. It's hard to tell at this point whether this will turn into a blowout or a narrower victory. I'm deeply suspicious of these national polls because of the ability to play with screens in pursuit of the message the media want to present, that's media of left and right btw. The state polls seem to be showing a decisive move in Obama's direction, and it's hard to argue when we're having to defend NC and FL that things don't look anything other than gloomy. Overall therefore, I lean to the blowout theory because believe me there is huge anger out there against Bush and the Republicans who are perceived to have created this huge mess. And there no getting away from the responsibility he and the party bear for one of the most disastrous periods of govt in US history. And this is without the impact of the younger vote, African Americans and Hispanics who I do think are all going to vote this year in numbers that are going to amaze the chattering classes. So in truth I don't know what the solution is because if McCain goes down the rest of the ticket goes down with him. I suppose this is an argument for dancing with who brung you but at this stage in the game Rick it doesn't really seem realistic to dump McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically Rick your analysis of both McCain&#8217;s debate performance and the Republican predicament are on the money. McCain&#8217;s performance the other night was fairly dire, the split screen images showing his agitation and tics was brutal. The invocations from some of &#8220;Joe the Plumber&#8221; are risible, Joe has turned out to be a phony, someone who doesn&#8217;t earn anywhere near $250k a year, doesn&#8217;t have a plumbers license, and has fiddled his taxes. As for Palin words fail me, if the GOP think she&#8217;s the future we&#8217;re out of power for 25 years. It&#8217;s hard to tell at this point whether this will turn into a blowout or a narrower victory. I&#8217;m deeply suspicious of these national polls because of the ability to play with screens in pursuit of the message the media want to present, that&#8217;s media of left and right btw. The state polls seem to be showing a decisive move in Obama&#8217;s direction, and it&#8217;s hard to argue when we&#8217;re having to defend NC and FL that things don&#8217;t look anything other than gloomy. Overall therefore, I lean to the blowout theory because believe me there is huge anger out there against Bush and the Republicans who are perceived to have created this huge mess. And there no getting away from the responsibility he and the party bear for one of the most disastrous periods of govt in US history. And this is without the impact of the younger vote, African Americans and Hispanics who I do think are all going to vote this year in numbers that are going to amaze the chattering classes. So in truth I don&#8217;t know what the solution is because if McCain goes down the rest of the ticket goes down with him. I suppose this is an argument for dancing with who brung you but at this stage in the game Rick it doesn&#8217;t really seem realistic to dump McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: baz</title>
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		<dc:creator>baz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow... gotta say that it's refreshing to see an *old-time* Conservative, someone who is honest.
Good job, Rick!
And just a note, to those that bring up the 70s &#38; Carter.  Had Pres Reagan not killed Carter's energy initiatives, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now.  
Probably no Iraq, 9/11, we'd have been weened off oil already, alternative technologies would've advanced, with the research tax credits, etc.
I don't like Carter, but as much as everyone likes to bash Carter, the guy was prescient about energy... and Israel/Egypt have remained in relative peace for 30 years.
Lastly, I think my fellow Conservatives, need to get off the kool-aid, and start opening their minds again.  Too many of us, have invested so much into the Limbaugh/Hannity ditto thought process, that the world is moving by us.  Anger &#38; hate aint going to get us back into power... it'll be ideas &#38; creativity, something the right has forgotten about for years.  The Dems aren't the Dems of the 70s anymore.  They actually get fiscal responsibility, more than their forebears.  We need more of an argument, than they're *Liberals,* to regain power.
Another example, most of the military people I know, and there are many, are voting for Obama.
Why? Because the Libs are the ones unfailingly supporting the troops, these days, with their actions.
They actually learned from Viet Nam.  We on the other hand, just keep believing we're the righteous.  We need to wake up, and revise our thought processes, and arguments, and move into the present.  It aint the 70s anymore.
The old arguments don't work.  And this election is illustrating that people are moving away from the old *time-tested* arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; gotta say that it&#8217;s refreshing to see an *old-time* Conservative, someone who is honest.<br />
Good job, Rick!<br />
And just a note, to those that bring up the 70s &amp; Carter.  Had Pres Reagan not killed Carter&#8217;s energy initiatives, we wouldn&#8217;t be in the mess we&#8217;re in now.<br />
Probably no Iraq, 9/11, we&#8217;d have been weened off oil already, alternative technologies would&#8217;ve advanced, with the research tax credits, etc.<br />
I don&#8217;t like Carter, but as much as everyone likes to bash Carter, the guy was prescient about energy&#8230; and Israel/Egypt have remained in relative peace for 30 years.<br />
Lastly, I think my fellow Conservatives, need to get off the kool-aid, and start opening their minds again.  Too many of us, have invested so much into the Limbaugh/Hannity ditto thought process, that the world is moving by us.  Anger &amp; hate aint going to get us back into power&#8230; it&#8217;ll be ideas &amp; creativity, something the right has forgotten about for years.  The Dems aren&#8217;t the Dems of the 70s anymore.  They actually get fiscal responsibility, more than their forebears.  We need more of an argument, than they&#8217;re *Liberals,* to regain power.<br />
Another example, most of the military people I know, and there are many, are voting for Obama.<br />
Why? Because the Libs are the ones unfailingly supporting the troops, these days, with their actions.<br />
They actually learned from Viet Nam.  We on the other hand, just keep believing we&#8217;re the righteous.  We need to wake up, and revise our thought processes, and arguments, and move into the present.  It aint the 70s anymore.<br />
The old arguments don&#8217;t work.  And this election is illustrating that people are moving away from the old *time-tested* arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: llmpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>llmpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my post number 56 and to all the following ones

1) I am highly educated and I am not an elitist; I can do surgery and economics too. I am a mother, a wife and have 3 children. I own my own business. 

2) Have you every owned your own business. You know even if you have a good year and have $250,000.00 profit based upon maybe employing say 15- to 20 people you MUST put money aside for rainy days (or months like now) to work hard to keep the employees you have employed even when your business is off. This will not really be enough. Consider that one of your main piece of equipment you need to do your work is $60,000.00 and you have to replace it in a downturned economy, so now your money set aside is $190,000.00; and another issue you just got a rate increase on your health insurance and you know that your employees will probably not be able to afford an increase in the portion they contribute and that several will probably drop insurance if there is much change, but beside the premiums the copays and deductibles go up and co-insurance percentage the employees of this company pays- so they decide to use this to help with the premiums, this leaves them with less money to protect the employees they have as the struggle to make ends meet in a loosing economic time. You just do not get it. The trickle down effect is better for the economics in the country. This is where the country turned around from before, not from large corporations driving the employment. If you want to tax businesses and people $250,000.00 should not be the number it needs to be higher. This is not big money and the taxes on this are huge already the government initially takes 35.65%, and you have to pay more when you file, for a family of 5 and having usually 25k to 30k in medical expenses. This is too much. If you tax this class of people they will not hire people to clean homes, do yard work, clean cars, do home repairs- you think spending is down- I have never seen so many expensive cars in Wal-Marts parking lot. Just you wait if Obama wins you have seen nothing yet. "Robin Hood Plans do no work" I am not want the rich to get a tax break- but $250,000.00 is not rich it might be a good year and then back to $45,000.00 for 5 people to live on, you do not get it. I believe you do have a wealth envy idea, sorry have you looked at how little Obama will put in your pocket? The one year we were even close to that $250K area we gave over $12,000.00 to charity, ya a lot more the Biden gave last year!!!!!!!!! He gave $1000.00 and look at what he reported on his released tax return. Like I do not get it- 

It is not a replay of Bush, McCain and Bush have disagreed on many issues. He thinks differently. Clinton road the tailcoats of the previous economics which Reagan put into place and Bush senior continued- do your history- Clinton did nothing to keep the economy going- beside keeping the same federal chairman- Greenspan. Remember Clinton was a good public speaker and look at what we got with him? I sure do not want to just vote based upon a good speaker. He (Clinton) had a chance to get Bin Laden and passed it up, for what? So that friends of our family would die in the world trade center? I do not want their one-sided judgement. McCain steps across the party lines, Obama does not. What type of person gets things done in Washington? A person who is not dependent upon only their party to get items passed.

Wake up American - if the man seems too good to be true he probably is- 

However, I do think if a company is "OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS" they should be paying more taxes here. They should not be able to get away with this since these major corporations have contributed to the mass unemployment here in this country- this includes my husband. And now we have the health care insurance issue of insurance being too high to afford. I do believe the $5000.00 will not be enough to help, but having grown up in "socilized" medicine programs as a  military child I can tell you having totally socialized medicine is not the way to go. Look at Canada and how long people have to wait for major surgeries. I know many who come here for surgery and treatments due to the two plus years of waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my post number 56 and to all the following ones</p>
<p>1) I am highly educated and I am not an elitist; I can do surgery and economics too. I am a mother, a wife and have 3 children. I own my own business. </p>
<p>2) Have you every owned your own business. You know even if you have a good year and have $250,000.00 profit based upon maybe employing say 15- to 20 people you MUST put money aside for rainy days (or months like now) to work hard to keep the employees you have employed even when your business is off. This will not really be enough. Consider that one of your main piece of equipment you need to do your work is $60,000.00 and you have to replace it in a downturned economy, so now your money set aside is $190,000.00; and another issue you just got a rate increase on your health insurance and you know that your employees will probably not be able to afford an increase in the portion they contribute and that several will probably drop insurance if there is much change, but beside the premiums the copays and deductibles go up and co-insurance percentage the employees of this company pays- so they decide to use this to help with the premiums, this leaves them with less money to protect the employees they have as the struggle to make ends meet in a loosing economic time. You just do not get it. The trickle down effect is better for the economics in the country. This is where the country turned around from before, not from large corporations driving the employment. If you want to tax businesses and people $250,000.00 should not be the number it needs to be higher. This is not big money and the taxes on this are huge already the government initially takes 35.65%, and you have to pay more when you file, for a family of 5 and having usually 25k to 30k in medical expenses. This is too much. If you tax this class of people they will not hire people to clean homes, do yard work, clean cars, do home repairs- you think spending is down- I have never seen so many expensive cars in Wal-Marts parking lot. Just you wait if Obama wins you have seen nothing yet. &#8220;Robin Hood Plans do no work&#8221; I am not want the rich to get a tax break- but $250,000.00 is not rich it might be a good year and then back to $45,000.00 for 5 people to live on, you do not get it. I believe you do have a wealth envy idea, sorry have you looked at how little Obama will put in your pocket? The one year we were even close to that $250K area we gave over $12,000.00 to charity, ya a lot more the Biden gave last year!!!!!!!!! He gave $1000.00 and look at what he reported on his released tax return. Like I do not get it- </p>
<p>It is not a replay of Bush, McCain and Bush have disagreed on many issues. He thinks differently. Clinton road the tailcoats of the previous economics which Reagan put into place and Bush senior continued- do your history- Clinton did nothing to keep the economy going- beside keeping the same federal chairman- Greenspan. Remember Clinton was a good public speaker and look at what we got with him? I sure do not want to just vote based upon a good speaker. He (Clinton) had a chance to get Bin Laden and passed it up, for what? So that friends of our family would die in the world trade center? I do not want their one-sided judgement. McCain steps across the party lines, Obama does not. What type of person gets things done in Washington? A person who is not dependent upon only their party to get items passed.</p>
<p>Wake up American - if the man seems too good to be true he probably is- </p>
<p>However, I do think if a company is &#8220;OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS&#8221; they should be paying more taxes here. They should not be able to get away with this since these major corporations have contributed to the mass unemployment here in this country- this includes my husband. And now we have the health care insurance issue of insurance being too high to afford. I do believe the $5000.00 will not be enough to help, but having grown up in &#8220;socilized&#8221; medicine programs as a  military child I can tell you having totally socialized medicine is not the way to go. Look at Canada and how long people have to wait for major surgeries. I know many who come here for surgery and treatments due to the two plus years of waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, gallup likely voter tracking says its a 2 point race now. Rasmussen says it's 4 points. Republicans are underpolled ever year. And the still remaining undecideds, by the looks of things, will break toward McCain by 80%. If the election were held today, I firmly believe it would be very close, probably a 1 or 2 point win for Obama. That's not much ground to make up. It can happen, I believe it will. I have a gut feeling that it will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, gallup likely voter tracking says its a 2 point race now. Rasmussen says it&#8217;s 4 points. Republicans are underpolled ever year. And the still remaining undecideds, by the looks of things, will break toward McCain by 80%. If the election were held today, I firmly believe it would be very close, probably a 1 or 2 point win for Obama. That&#8217;s not much ground to make up. It can happen, I believe it will. I have a gut feeling that it will.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are falling into the trap the media is setting up. This is a very close race by all means, it will continue to tighten. With great conservative turnout, we will win the presidency again. Don't let them destroy your enthusiasm. Remember they are outpolling democrats, especially since the number of new registering Democrats is really fake because of Acorn's fantastic blunders. 

I believe it can still be done. It has to be done, otherwise we'll subject the country to a new era of socialism in this country. The Democrats aren't going to gain a filibuster-proof majority, they would have to pick up 10 seats, and that won't happen. Plus, greater enthusiasm on the top of the ticket trickles down, and higher poll numbers for McCain means higher poll numbers for candidates down the ticket. 

Don't give up and keep on fighting. We're gonna win this thing, I believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are falling into the trap the media is setting up. This is a very close race by all means, it will continue to tighten. With great conservative turnout, we will win the presidency again. Don&#8217;t let them destroy your enthusiasm. Remember they are outpolling democrats, especially since the number of new registering Democrats is really fake because of Acorn&#8217;s fantastic blunders. </p>
<p>I believe it can still be done. It has to be done, otherwise we&#8217;ll subject the country to a new era of socialism in this country. The Democrats aren&#8217;t going to gain a filibuster-proof majority, they would have to pick up 10 seats, and that won&#8217;t happen. Plus, greater enthusiasm on the top of the ticket trickles down, and higher poll numbers for McCain means higher poll numbers for candidates down the ticket. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t give up and keep on fighting. We&#8217;re gonna win this thing, I believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: iconoclast</title>
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		<dc:creator>iconoclast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"viscious"

Rick isn't THAT slow....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;viscious&#8221;</p>
<p>Rick isn&#8217;t THAT slow&#8230;.</p>
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