Comments on: OOGEDY-BOOGEDY AND BIBBIDI, BOBBIDI, BOO

By: Mrs. T

Mrs. T — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:51:24 +0000

I did not need either the liberals or slanted media to be appalled by MY GOP twice in recent years. First live on C-SPAN, invoking Scripture as an excuse to meddle in the private agony of Terri Schiavo’s family. Then Katrina, when I was deployed to Louisiana with the Red Cross, hearing from Fox News’s Shepard Smith that when Michael Brown received an S.O.S. from New Orleans FEMA that people were starving, “Heckuva Job” Brownie replied that he was in a DC restaurant and was starving too because his waiter was taking so long.

For the first time ever, this year I registered as an Independent. And I voted for Obama.

By: honestman

honestman — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:27:29 +0000

Most comments ignore the fact that the GOP’s greatest strenth lies in the so called bible belt. Elsewhere its appeal is much weaker. If I were a party leader, I’d try to dispassionately investigate why this is the case and adjust the message accordingly. A good place to start the investigation would a study of the demographics of the party’s 2008 convention.

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OOGEDY-BOOGEDY! « — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 00:32:59 +0000

[...] Once again, I’ll turn to Rick Moran who has a lengthy discussion of Kathleen Parker’s piece that has conservative blogs and talk [...]

By: Dan

Dan — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:48:58 +0000

Can you point out what social issues came up in this election? Abortion? Aside from a single speech by Palin and a desire on the part of liberals and the media to paint her as hoping to imprison all women who have an abortion (she’s never even tried to raise the issue as governor), abortion played no role in the right’s electoral strategy this year - against the most pro-abortion candidate ever to run! Did gay marriage really play more of a role than it did in 2004 when it helped bring out voters? Not outside of CA. Did embryonic stem cell research play a role? Not with John McCain, who is in support of it. Immigration? Not with a candidate who disagrees with much of his party on the issue - no one dared bring it up.

4% of voters said moral issues was the most important factor driving their vote this year. I think it was 20-something% in 2004. That means that millions of oogedy-boogedys are more pragmatic than they are given credit for and realized the economy was the most important issue.

This election tells us absolutely nothing one way or the other about the role of social issues in the electorate today.

By: Kenneth Almquist

Kenneth Almquist — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:23:35 +0000

“After the 2004 election, Congressional Republicans went off the rails and started spending money liken drunken sailors on shore leave…”

You seriously suggesting they weren’t doing that before the 2004 election? Here are the inflation-adjusted increases in total federal spending, per year, starting with fiscal 2001: 1.25%, 5.97%, 4.61%, 3.16%, 3.99%, 3.89%, 0.62%.

The 1.25% increase for fiscal 2001 (ending Sept. 30, 2001), is the last Clinton budget. The next three numbers are for the three fiscal years before the 2004 election, and the 3.99% increase is for the fiscal 2005 budget, which Congress passed before the 2004 election. The last two percentage increases, representing the budgets passed by Congress after the 2004 election, don’t suggest that Congressional Republicans suddenly went off the rails. (Also, Congressional Republican bear only partial responsibility for the run up in spending during the Bush years; Bush requested the spending and the Congressional Republicans agreed.)

By: P. Aaron

P. Aaron — Sat, 22 Nov 2008 03:27:52 +0000

The practice of being a conservative is not a popularity contest. Sadly, getting elected and holding a politically conservative-governing majority is. The dichotomy is that to be conservative is to not believe in the “farm team” or the “deep bench”, but to just practice the basic priciples which includes disdain and refrain from being too involved with government and excess governing.

The former democrats that are now socialists believe in using government as a tool to deliver all aspects of gov’t control unto the private citizen. (Who’s talking about converting whom here?) Conservatives have understood and the proof is historically obvious that government run enterprises are largely destructive to a moral society and fail to deliver any quality of service or cost effectiveness. Gov’t run services tend to destroy liberty every time they’re enacted.

By: Doug Purdie

Doug Purdie — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:36:57 +0000

It’s SOP for the party whose POTUS candiadte wins to proclaim that the other party is done-for. The Dems were finished in ‘04, but here they are, back again. I think maybe the GOP still has a future, Jesus-Landers or not.

By: mlcy3

mlcy3 — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:22:10 +0000

funny woman has said:

The conductor is in the pulpit preaching. He is nobodies gorilla! Republicans need to act more like Democrats and The Democrats need to act more like Republicans. mlacy3

By: Drongo

Drongo — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:46:36 +0000

“Parker was comparing the religious right with those other famous armband wearers, the Brown Shirts of Nazi fame. But she did it in such a cutesy way, we will forgive her, right? Boy, I bet Parker’s little smear elicited a snicker or two from her new found friends on the left – a crowd she seems to be playing to more and more lately.

But it is the use of the pejorative “oogedy boogedy” that has everyone up in arms on the right. Jonah Goldberg wonders what all the fuss is about:”

Utterly brilliant. You decry someone making veiled references to Nazis and then you follow up with a quote from Jonah Goldberg, author of the book with the smiley face Hitler on the front cover.

You did this deliberately didn’t you?

“And during the last decade (and especially the last two presidential elections) as Karl Rove shamelessly – and successfully – used wedge issues like gay marriage to maximize the turnout among the evangelical community, hideous figures like Hagee and Parsley gained influence because of the size of their following.” Rick Moran

“The power of the religious right in party affairs has never been so great and it may take something of a civil war between the evangelicals and secular conservatives to hash this out. So be it.” Rick Moran

“To be more specific, the evangelical, right-wing, oogedy-boogedy branch of the GOP is what ails the erstwhile conservative party and will continue to afflict and marginalize its constituents if reckoning doesn’t soon cometh.” Kathleen Parker

Honestly, these three quotes are not that different. Parker is obviously addressing the same group of nutjobs that you have a problem with, rather than Christians as a whole.

Yes, but the idea that the religious right is this huge bogeyman that Parker and the left are pushing is ludicrous. My beef is with the emphasis placed on social issues not who is supporting those issues (mostly).

And it has been a well established scholarly arguement for a generation that liberalism and fascism have much in common - perhaps more than conservatism and fascism but I wouldn’t want to live off the difference. The real point Goldberg was making in his book was the left’s unacknowledged support for totalitarian-like policies. The right has been kicking these kooks out of respectable society for 50 years. The left has a seat at the table for them.

ed.

By: funny man

funny man — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:33:27 +0000

The ‘litmus test’ of the right is ‘PC’ on the left. Both just tools to beat the living daylight out of intra-party rivals. However, the ‘terror’ of both now seems pretty much diminished.