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	<title>Comments on: WHAT WE NEED IS A GOLDILOCKS GOVERNMENT</title>
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		<title>By: emgersh</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/08/what-we-need-is-a-goldilocks-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1755481</link>
		<dc:creator>emgersh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, once again, a great series of thoughtful articles on a new "middle way" for the conservative movement. Though we might disagree on many of the specifics, you pretty consistently point a way forward for your wayward movement and yet, to judge from the foaming mouthed responses here and elsewhere, it'll take years in the wilderness for your partisans to sort themselves out. They truly do seem more inclined to suffer a depression than to even hope for things to work out, let alone contribute to productive compromise.

You said it clearly:

"But if you seek to use conservative principles to govern a hugely diverse nation of 300 million people with clashing interests, differing needs, and even different ideas of what it means to be an American, then there should be a realization among conservatives that there is no “big” government or “small” government at all. Rather, it is using government to address the legitimate needs of the people consistent with the Constitution that matters in the end."

But it appears your compatriots don't perceive such a nation. They seem to see some misty fiction of a country that only exists in their dreams; homogeneous in all ways and adhering to their particular ideas about government. Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, once again, a great series of thoughtful articles on a new &#8220;middle way&#8221; for the conservative movement. Though we might disagree on many of the specifics, you pretty consistently point a way forward for your wayward movement and yet, to judge from the foaming mouthed responses here and elsewhere, it&#8217;ll take years in the wilderness for your partisans to sort themselves out. They truly do seem more inclined to suffer a depression than to even hope for things to work out, let alone contribute to productive compromise.</p>
<p>You said it clearly:</p>
<p>&#8220;But if you seek to use conservative principles to govern a hugely diverse nation of 300 million people with clashing interests, differing needs, and even different ideas of what it means to be an American, then there should be a realization among conservatives that there is no “big” government or “small” government at all. Rather, it is using government to address the legitimate needs of the people consistent with the Constitution that matters in the end.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it appears your compatriots don&#8217;t perceive such a nation. They seem to see some misty fiction of a country that only exists in their dreams; homogeneous in all ways and adhering to their particular ideas about government. Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: cedarhill</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/08/what-we-need-is-a-goldilocks-government/comment-page-1/#comment-1755424</link>
		<dc:creator>cedarhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the better reasoned articles this month. As Ned Barnett pointed out in today's American Thinker article on Obama's end run around Congress the stars are aligning to make the stimulus bill the sun setting of the little government folks, conservatives, libertarians and fiscal conservatives et al. 

We have all this activity including Ted Kennedy writing the national health care act on his hospital bed.  Rahl Emanual declares never let a crisis go to waste.  Tom Daschle states it's best to not debate controversial health care.  Obama openly stoking the doom and gloom by saying the Grim Reaper is in the building and will not leave until his stimulus bill passes.

A great "strategery" to strike at this time. One would not be surprised if even amnesty for illegals is tossed in as part of the "recovery" since all economic issues would need to be dealt with in toto.  As Rick points out the Congressional Republicans have almost a Hobson's choice.  Add some drama, perhaps, of votes on Jan 19 at midnight or such with suspension of the rules including filibuster if needed and a new day will truly dawn on Jan 20.  The MSM likely will not even give a Republican (including McCain) face time.  

On the plus side, now would be a good time to invest in green companies.  Anyone know if there is a market in union futures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the better reasoned articles this month. As Ned Barnett pointed out in today&#8217;s American Thinker article on Obama&#8217;s end run around Congress the stars are aligning to make the stimulus bill the sun setting of the little government folks, conservatives, libertarians and fiscal conservatives et al. </p>
<p>We have all this activity including Ted Kennedy writing the national health care act on his hospital bed.  Rahl Emanual declares never let a crisis go to waste.  Tom Daschle states it&#8217;s best to not debate controversial health care.  Obama openly stoking the doom and gloom by saying the Grim Reaper is in the building and will not leave until his stimulus bill passes.</p>
<p>A great &#8220;strategery&#8221; to strike at this time. One would not be surprised if even amnesty for illegals is tossed in as part of the &#8220;recovery&#8221; since all economic issues would need to be dealt with in toto.  As Rick points out the Congressional Republicans have almost a Hobson&#8217;s choice.  Add some drama, perhaps, of votes on Jan 19 at midnight or such with suspension of the rules including filibuster if needed and a new day will truly dawn on Jan 20.  The MSM likely will not even give a Republican (including McCain) face time.  </p>
<p>On the plus side, now would be a good time to invest in green companies.  Anyone know if there is a market in union futures?</p>
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		<title>By: JPP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Levi, the limp-wrist said:  "There’s nothing inherently evil about the idea of government."

Did mommy and daddy send you to law school, baby boy?  You like to be cared for, don't ya boy?

What a waste.  Govermnet is force; it's coercison?  Who said that Levi-boy?  G. Washington.

Government is LAWYERS.  I want nothing to do with sending my money to lawyers in order that they "launder it", then pass it out to their favored constituencies.  That's government Levi-boy.

Maybe your leg too tingles whenever you see Barry Hussein, you get a little sexual jolt.  Go ahead, admit Levi-boy.  

Or perhaps you have trouble understanding English.  I don't like nor want government.  I am as self-sufficient as possible and I love it.  Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi, the limp-wrist said:  &#8220;There’s nothing inherently evil about the idea of government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did mommy and daddy send you to law school, baby boy?  You like to be cared for, don&#8217;t ya boy?</p>
<p>What a waste.  Govermnet is force; it&#8217;s coercison?  Who said that Levi-boy?  G. Washington.</p>
<p>Government is LAWYERS.  I want nothing to do with sending my money to lawyers in order that they &#8220;launder it&#8221;, then pass it out to their favored constituencies.  That&#8217;s government Levi-boy.</p>
<p>Maybe your leg too tingles whenever you see Barry Hussein, you get a little sexual jolt.  Go ahead, admit Levi-boy.  </p>
<p>Or perhaps you have trouble understanding English.  I don&#8217;t like nor want government.  I am as self-sufficient as possible and I love it.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Surabaya Stew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surabaya Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 06:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rick, seeing how our soon to be ex-president promised to reduce the growth in government yet consistently increased it in size, would it not be possible for our next president to say he will increase government yet actually slow down its growth? Obama is looking to be quite the pragmatist/realist with his cabinet picks; perhaps he will take a similar approach to the budget as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rick, seeing how our soon to be ex-president promised to reduce the growth in government yet consistently increased it in size, would it not be possible for our next president to say he will increase government yet actually slow down its growth? Obama is looking to be quite the pragmatist/realist with his cabinet picks; perhaps he will take a similar approach to the budget as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Shelby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shelby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting points... when I think about conservatism as I grew up believing in, I have always thought that "small" government was the best approach.  What a shock it was to discover that America has not been functioning on a "small" government for quite some time. And of course, the bailouts are the most recent example of this. It just makes me recoil in horror to think that not only are there liberals up there in Washington who are embracing these hude government bailouts, but no one is asking what the possible long term effects of huge government spending may be!  One of my favorite posters on www.despair.com reads "GOVERNMENT: If you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions".

I think you hit on something here: as Republicans we do need to find relevant alternatives to expanding the size of government, because fighting for small government is an irrelevant battle if small government no longer exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting points&#8230; when I think about conservatism as I grew up believing in, I have always thought that &#8220;small&#8221; government was the best approach.  What a shock it was to discover that America has not been functioning on a &#8220;small&#8221; government for quite some time. And of course, the bailouts are the most recent example of this. It just makes me recoil in horror to think that not only are there liberals up there in Washington who are embracing these hude government bailouts, but no one is asking what the possible long term effects of huge government spending may be!  One of my favorite posters on <a href="http://www.despair.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.despair.com</a> reads &#8220;GOVERNMENT: If you think the problems we create are bad, just wait until you see our solutions&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think you hit on something here: as Republicans we do need to find relevant alternatives to expanding the size of government, because fighting for small government is an irrelevant battle if small government no longer exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I for one, am sick and tired of government. Just sick of it. I can hurl when I listen to Barry Dunham, hem and haw, trying to sound like he knows what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to auto manufacturers.

Barry-boy, Botox Pelosi, Botox Biden, Chinless Harry Reid, Chrissy “the crook” Dodd, Teddy “the swimmer” Kennedy, Chucky “ambulance chaser” Schumer – these lawyers with little knowledge about anything, little skill other than pontificating are going to plan our lives for us.

Government IS THE PROBLEM. Get off the government nipple. Live your own life.&lt;/i&gt;

Government is the only reason you don't live in a cave. Do you like having roads and a military and hospitals and schools? All of those things exist because of government. Do you like the idea of civilization? Of rule of law? Of a code of ethics? These principles flow from government. Government has guided human development for thousands of years. As a species, we're as complicated and complex as we've ever been, and to think that we've outgrown the need for the organ that is fundamentally responsible for getting us here is just stupid. 

Government isn't the problem. Morons electing other morons to run the government as poorly as possible is the problem. There's nothing inherently evil about the idea of government. That's such an obvious propaganda play from big business that if you can't recognize it you really are useless for most purposes. You can scrub toilets, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I for one, am sick and tired of government. Just sick of it. I can hurl when I listen to Barry Dunham, hem and haw, trying to sound like he knows what he’s talking about, especially when it comes to auto manufacturers.</p>
<p>Barry-boy, Botox Pelosi, Botox Biden, Chinless Harry Reid, Chrissy “the crook” Dodd, Teddy “the swimmer” Kennedy, Chucky “ambulance chaser” Schumer – these lawyers with little knowledge about anything, little skill other than pontificating are going to plan our lives for us.</p>
<p>Government IS THE PROBLEM. Get off the government nipple. Live your own life.</i></p>
<p>Government is the only reason you don&#8217;t live in a cave. Do you like having roads and a military and hospitals and schools? All of those things exist because of government. Do you like the idea of civilization? Of rule of law? Of a code of ethics? These principles flow from government. Government has guided human development for thousands of years. As a species, we&#8217;re as complicated and complex as we&#8217;ve ever been, and to think that we&#8217;ve outgrown the need for the organ that is fundamentally responsible for getting us here is just stupid. </p>
<p>Government isn&#8217;t the problem. Morons electing other morons to run the government as poorly as possible is the problem. There&#8217;s nothing inherently evil about the idea of government. That&#8217;s such an obvious propaganda play from big business that if you can&#8217;t recognize it you really are useless for most purposes. You can scrub toilets, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you morons figure anyone should listen to you? Have you ever been right about anything, ever?

&lt;em&gt;Considering that we just went through the longest, most sustained economic growth in the history of industrialized civilization, you would do well to listen.

ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you morons figure anyone should listen to you? Have you ever been right about anything, ever?</p>
<p><em>Considering that we just went through the longest, most sustained economic growth in the history of industrialized civilization, you would do well to listen.</p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My opinion of the role of federal government is that it should essentially concern itself with the following:

-Economic and trade policy which supports long-term growth and can respond adequately to changing real world conditions (domestic and foreign)
-National defense (military, border security, internal security)
-Public health and safety (i.e., prevention and control of disease outbreaks through adequate immunization, sanitation standards, etc.
-Public emergency response (which needs to be carefully and competently integrated with state and local response) - law enforcement, disaster recovery, etc.
-Maintenance of national transportation infrasutrcture (air traffic control, seaport control, interstate highways and non-private rail lines)
-Upholding law and liberty in the context of constitutional guidance

The Democratic party ideology seems to advocate a "federal government knows best" approach to the above points, and public services in general. While I have seen this concept work quite well in small, well integrated countries like Singapore (where I now live), it relies heavily of federal government knowing exactly what is going on at a macro- and micro- level, and having the resources and plans of action to do the right thing. I do NOT see this happening in the US; the bureaucrats is Washington are so often out of touch with the people they supposedly represent, that it would be impossible for them to make accurate decisions about the welfare of the entire country on a consistent basis. 

The GOP tends to advocate more of a state-level approach, rather than federal government involvement. Even at state level, much of the government is ineffective due to incompetent/clueless politicians and various budgetary constraints.

I don't have an easy answer to the problems that the US is facing now, but there are many areas that need a serious rethink with regard to who has oversight authority and the scope of that authority. Above all, the many facets of government need to be well integrated to be effective and eliminate the "pork" and gross waste of taxpayers money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My opinion of the role of federal government is that it should essentially concern itself with the following:</p>
<p>-Economic and trade policy which supports long-term growth and can respond adequately to changing real world conditions (domestic and foreign)<br />
-National defense (military, border security, internal security)<br />
-Public health and safety (i.e., prevention and control of disease outbreaks through adequate immunization, sanitation standards, etc.<br />
-Public emergency response (which needs to be carefully and competently integrated with state and local response) - law enforcement, disaster recovery, etc.<br />
-Maintenance of national transportation infrasutrcture (air traffic control, seaport control, interstate highways and non-private rail lines)<br />
-Upholding law and liberty in the context of constitutional guidance</p>
<p>The Democratic party ideology seems to advocate a &#8220;federal government knows best&#8221; approach to the above points, and public services in general. While I have seen this concept work quite well in small, well integrated countries like Singapore (where I now live), it relies heavily of federal government knowing exactly what is going on at a macro- and micro- level, and having the resources and plans of action to do the right thing. I do NOT see this happening in the US; the bureaucrats is Washington are so often out of touch with the people they supposedly represent, that it would be impossible for them to make accurate decisions about the welfare of the entire country on a consistent basis. </p>
<p>The GOP tends to advocate more of a state-level approach, rather than federal government involvement. Even at state level, much of the government is ineffective due to incompetent/clueless politicians and various budgetary constraints.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have an easy answer to the problems that the US is facing now, but there are many areas that need a serious rethink with regard to who has oversight authority and the scope of that authority. Above all, the many facets of government need to be well integrated to be effective and eliminate the &#8220;pork&#8221; and gross waste of taxpayers money.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kristol Enrages Libertarians &#124; Political Byline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Kristol Enrages Libertarians &#124; Political Byline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Corner, The Hill&#8217;s Blog Briefing Room, Copious Dissent, Below The Beltway, Wonkette, Right Wing Nut House, StephenBainbridge.com, RedState, Washington Monthly, The New Republic and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Corner, The Hill&#8217;s Blog Briefing Room, Copious Dissent, Below The Beltway, Wonkette, Right Wing Nut House, StephenBainbridge.com, RedState, Washington Monthly, The New Republic and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How am I to interpret Barry The Great Redeemer?  His pearls of wisdom on economics this past weekend were laughable. "Modernize school buildings?"  ROTFL!

Our new boy-king truly does harbor socialist leanings.  

Prediction:  Big time conservative backlash and recovery in 23 months in 2010.  Big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How am I to interpret Barry The Great Redeemer?  His pearls of wisdom on economics this past weekend were laughable. &#8220;Modernize school buildings?&#8221;  ROTFL!</p>
<p>Our new boy-king truly does harbor socialist leanings.  </p>
<p>Prediction:  Big time conservative backlash and recovery in 23 months in 2010.  Big time.</p>
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