Just one quibble:
“Believing in ID/creationism flies in the face of the facts. Do we really want a president who does that?”

You (the big You) elected one twice.

I guess we can back Rick’s argument up by the fact that the majority of Americans who voted for Barack Obama had “climate change” and ID as their primary concerns for voting for Obama. (yes, sarcasim intended)

Jindal has proven himself to be an able and qualifed leader in a state that equaled Illinois in corruption as a way of life. And I see no indication that Jindal, who probably does accept ID, has forced it down the throats of his constituants that are of the mindset of Rick.

What Rick has done is argue the “big tent” philosophy much like Democrats. If you are not with us, then you don’t belong. Think like we do or get out. Yeah, that should do a lot to rebuild a party that has been taking body blows for two election cycles now. If you don’t accept “climate change”, if you don’t accept Darwinism, you have no place at the table. That should really build conservative numbers.

Rick, like many non-believers, seem to think that the jury is no longer out on all science of “climate change”. But now, as has been pointed out, there is dissention among scientific ranks as to the global warming fear mongering and it is not settled. You know that the bar has been reset when people now refer to GW as “climate change”. When your theory is being questioned, change the terminology. There, that takes care of that.

Were the citizens of Louisiana concerned about Jindal’s personal thoughts on Darwinism vs. ID when they elected him? No. They were concerned about the same thing that all citizens are concerned about; their wallets. And in that aspect, Jindal has stepped up to the plate.

There is a place in the Republican party for the deep thinkers like Rick who seem to feel that GW and ID are priority issues. But there is also a place for those who could not care less and are worried that they will have a job next week or that their kids are getting a decent education not hampered by the Teacher’s Union that can’t seem to police it’s own.

Jindal is a rising star, as are a number of Republicans. 2012 may not be their year, but I can promise you, 2016 will be a different story. And you don’t regain control/power by becoming Democrat Lite. That was proven on Nov. 4 2006 and 2008.

Yes, Louisiana, as all coastal states, is feeling the pinch coming from falling oil prices. But I didn’t notice Jindal bellying up to the federal coffers trough demanding a bail out like Jennifer Granholm of Michigan or The Governator of California. Perhaps he feels a financial shortfall is the responsibility of his state, and his state alone, and not the citizens of Iowa, Nebraska or New Mexico. Texas, another state that benefits from oil revenue, has already come out and said that it is against the “bail outs” for states that have driven themselves into bankruptcy.

Why do I feel Rick is relishing in the demise of the GOP? Could it be that he is planning his “coming out” party where he announces he can no longer relate to the “conservatives” of the nation and has now switched parties?

You read minds just like a liberal. And since I’m not a Republican, it would be pretty tough to “switch” anything.

ed.

Realizng that our obession with global warming is hurting our economy and our national security interests is not short sighted at all. It the government’s primary duty to work for the defense of the nation and to try and ensure that the country is not placed at a competitive disadvantage. Our obsession with global warming has badly hurt our national security and it has placed American business interests at a competitive disadvantage. It is only prudent to recognize this.

I propose the following: 1.)Secure the borders. 2.) Place a moratorium on immigration from Muslim lands. This moratorium may need to be extended to all immigration until we can fix our immigration system. 3.)Develop all of our own oil and gas reserves. 4.)Build more refineries. 5.) Maintain our nuclear detterence. This will mean expanding and upgrading the nuclear arsenal. With a resurgent Russia and expansionist China this of paramount importance. Doing these five things will give us greater marginal utility for our national security interests than invading Afghanistan, Iraq, or any other middle eastern country ever could have or ever would have.

While doing this we should continue to study global climate changes. If it turns out that humans are a major factor, we can make changes but before we destroy our economy and place our national security in an even graver position than it already is we need to be absolutely certain. Simply declaring the “debate over” arbitrarily and sliming skeptics of human caused global warming does not cut it.

I think it does seem clear that the earth is over 6,000 years old. That has pretty much been refuted along with the flat earth theory. I don’t think it is relevant to a discussion of ID. Intellegent Design may or may not refer to the God of the Christian Bible, Allah, or any other one of the other religons.

I’m not sure when the marketplace rejected the the theory of ID. It’s not been given a fair debate. I’m not aware that anyone is using force of law to get this discussed, however, force of law does seem to be being used to squelch debate. Maybe ID is right. Maybe its wrong. I think it should be properly debated. We debate any number of strange things. There is no reason for any one to fear ID or to be uncomfortable discussing it.

The beginning of wisdom is to admit that one does not know. I don’t know all of the answers. It seems unwise not to explore all possibilities.

Those of us who believe in evolution will insist on the dose deemed effective against the current, mutated bacteria.

If we’re right there will soon be a lot fewer of you people.

I think global warming is a little hazier. Are humans the cause? Dunno. Are humans *a* cause? Almost certainly. It seems to me that complaining about global warming harming our economy or national security is a little shortsighted - if it plays out like some are thinging, there won’t be an economy to destroy or a nation to secure. Have the debate, sure, but I think the odds are pretty hgih that at the very least we have a responsibility to stop polluting and stuff, even if it’s not causing things to warm up. It’s just good for all of our health. And that’s beyond debate.

I see no problem with teaching ID/Creationism along side evolutionary theory or how ever the school system wishes to do it. We allow any number of other theories to be taught. Why not teach ID/Creationism? If the ideas are without merit, the market place will eliminate them much as it eliminated the flat earth theory or the earth as the center of the universe theory. Being afraid of ID/Creationsim as many seem to be appears to be irrational.

The theory of human caused global warming may or may not be a hoax. People who question the theory have been viciously attacked in numerous ways. In labeling the theory a hoax, we are seeing the people who have been viciously attacked by the man caused global warming proponents and their allies in the media. The proponents of the theory should not be afraid to have an open and honest debate on the subject.

I think we can should have a debate on ID/Creationsim and we should have a thorough debate on whether or not humans are responsible for global warming. The proponents of the theory of human caused global warming and their allies in the media seem to be afraid to have this debate. They should not be.

What is clear is that the belief in human caused global warming has severly harmed our economy and our national security interests. It has left us more dependent than we need to be on others who do not like us very much to meet our energy needs and it has strengthened these enemies. Also, if we are not developing more or our own resources, this decreases the supply which raises the price that Americans must pay for gasoline and other oil based products. This has harmed us in many ways. Before we destroy our economy further and make ourselves even more vunerable to our enemies we should want to be sure we really have a problem here and that we can actually control it.

I have my own theory about man caused global warming but am willing to concede that it might not be correct. Humans are but one species on earth out of millions. We are simply not significant enough to be capable of altering the climate on a global scale. To believe that we are capable of such a thing is the height of hubris, however, I’m willing to concede I’m wrong. The supporters of global warming should also be willing to concede that they might be wrong.

We should not be afraid to debate ID/Creationsim or global warming. Finally, the Republican leadership should not be afraid to consider Bobby Jindal. Maybe he’s the answer. Maybe he is not. He and whatever views he has should be given fair consideration.