Comments on: THE GOP BAILOUT CONUNDRUM http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:24:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Aaron http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756109 Aaron Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:50:06 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756109 Belad - mathematical issues aside, I think the larger problem is that most people, myself included, have trouble comprehending the absurdly large dollar amounts involved in federal programs. I wish it were more common to present them in something like the number of days/months/years that the average person will have to work to pay for a particular program. That I can understand. Belad - mathematical issues aside, I think the larger problem is that most people, myself included, have trouble comprehending the absurdly large dollar amounts involved in federal programs. I wish it were more common to present them in something like the number of days/months/years that the average person will have to work to pay for a particular program. That I can understand.

]]> By: Belad http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756105 Belad Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:14:33 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756105 Aaron Said: 3:32 pm Belad: Where am I going wrong here? It looks like you’re assuming that there are only 350 taxpaying households in the US. I believe the actual number is a bit higher than that. You are correct. My math doesn't quite cut it. I guess it won't work either. Oh, well. Aaron Said:
3:32 pm

Belad: Where am I going wrong here?

It looks like you’re assuming that there are only 350 taxpaying households in the US. I believe the actual number is a bit higher than that.

You are correct. My math doesn’t quite cut it. I guess it won’t work either. Oh, well.

]]> By: jharp http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756097 jharp Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:11:55 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756097 Just read your article on the Blago appointment posted at pajamas media. What a bunch of nonsense. You have got to be kidding. Utterly ridiculous. <em>How very coherent of you. Just a thought...what the hell are you talking about? ed.</em> Just read your article on the Blago appointment posted at pajamas media.

What a bunch of nonsense. You have got to be kidding. Utterly ridiculous.

How very coherent of you. Just a thought…what the hell are you talking about?

ed.

]]> By: bs jones http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756096 bs jones Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:24:21 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756096 When in a position of responsibility, NEVER pass the buck. Admit your mistakes, take the consequences and fix the mess YOU caused. Right on SeniorD When in a position of responsibility, NEVER pass the buck. Admit your mistakes, take the consequences and fix the mess YOU caused.

Right on SeniorD

]]> By: funny man http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756095 funny man Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:52:42 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756095 As a conservative I'm naturally against such a massive government take over/bail-out/what have you. However, I'd like to point out that nobody of today's economists be they conservatives or liberal know what the best medicine is. Most agree that some sort of stimulus is helpful (also conservatives BTW) and they all mean billions and billions. On the other hand, not doing anything could work out and maybe it won't. I challenge anyone in this forum to come up with a plan to a) keep us competitive in the long run b) help reduce our deficit and c) stimulate the economy. Most of you seem only to care about the political fallout, I really don't. Let's assume Obama assembled a dream team regarding economists and he can pull it off thereby "proving" my economic understanding wrong. Would I have a case of wounded pride? Yes!!, but in the overall picture that hardly matters. I hope it is still country first. Now I want to emphasize that I don't think Obama's plan (and many Republicans) will work. However, nobody here on this forum really knows what just happened with our economy (or did anyone of you lost any sleep over mortgage backed securities just three month ago) nor knows how to fix it. Or do we have the conservative Paul Krugman in our midst? As a conservative I’m naturally against such a massive government take over/bail-out/what have you. However, I’d like to point out that nobody of today’s economists be they conservatives or liberal know what the best medicine is. Most agree that some sort of stimulus is helpful (also conservatives BTW) and they all mean billions and billions. On the other hand, not doing anything could work out and maybe it won’t. I challenge anyone in this forum to come up with a plan to a) keep us competitive in the long run b) help reduce our deficit and c) stimulate the economy.
Most of you seem only to care about the political fallout, I really don’t. Let’s assume Obama assembled a dream team regarding economists and he can pull it off thereby “proving” my economic understanding wrong. Would I have a case of wounded pride? Yes!!, but in the overall picture that hardly matters. I hope it is still country first. Now I want to emphasize that I don’t think Obama’s plan (and many Republicans) will work. However, nobody here on this forum really knows what just happened with our economy (or did anyone of you lost any sleep over mortgage backed securities just three month ago) nor knows how to fix it. Or do we have the conservative Paul Krugman in our midst?

]]> By: michael reynolds http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756094 michael reynolds Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:13:00 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756094 Off-topic, but I am so jealous of you guys in Illinois. We have Schwarzenegger but your governor is still more entertaining. He race-hustled the Senate appointment. Now, that's entertainment. Off-topic, but I am so jealous of you guys in Illinois. We have Schwarzenegger but your governor is still more entertaining. He race-hustled the Senate appointment. Now, that’s entertainment.

]]> By: Neo http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756092 Neo Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:00:45 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756092 Given that there seems to be marginal if any real oversight of the $350 billion Congress has already approved for TARP, there is already a growing ground swell of disapproval forming for any new efforts. The key for Republican Congressional leaders (and the rank-n-file) will be to cast these efforts as a waste of taxpayers money. Given that there seems to be marginal if any real oversight of the $350 billion Congress has already approved for TARP, there is already a growing ground swell of disapproval forming for any new efforts.

The key for Republican Congressional leaders (and the rank-n-file) will be to cast these efforts as a waste of taxpayers money.

]]> By: obamathered http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756085 obamathered Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:41:31 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756085 The American public has the attention span of a gnat and the patience of a cobra. Exhibit A is the Iraq War. Hence I disagree with you, Rick. If past is prologue, this boondoggle will not result in much stimulus at all. If that proves out, as it likely will, today's Senate Republicans will watch their numbers grow and Obama could be in a similar situation as Clinton was in his third year. This is the Democrats' baby. There will be no way around it. The American public has the attention span of a gnat and the patience of a cobra. Exhibit A is the Iraq War. Hence I disagree with you, Rick. If past is prologue, this boondoggle will not result in much stimulus at all. If that proves out, as it likely will, today’s Senate Republicans will watch their numbers grow and Obama could be in a similar situation as Clinton was in his third year.

This is the Democrats’ baby. There will be no way around it.

]]> By: John Howard http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756084 John Howard Tue, 30 Dec 2008 23:40:24 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756084 <i>The GOP must vigorously make the case that the need for this bailout has not been thoroughly examined or thought through adequately</i> This is the winning approach. Remind the public we still have Medicare and Social Security problems arising soon. Remind them the long-term result of printing money is harm to their children. Urge the public not to let Obama and the Democrats kick this problem down the road. The public is ready for some straight talk. The GOP must vigorously make the case that the need for this bailout has not been thoroughly examined or thought through adequately

This is the winning approach. Remind the public we still have Medicare and Social Security problems arising soon. Remind them the long-term result of printing money is harm to their children. Urge the public not to let Obama and the Democrats kick this problem down the road. The public is ready for some straight talk.

]]> By: Chuck Tucson http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/comment-page-1/#comment-1756083 Chuck Tucson Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:54:11 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2008/12/30/the-gop-bailout-conundrum/#comment-1756083 <blockquote>You know chuck, you are a real asshole. What you don’t know about conservatism – its history, its core principles, its role in the formation of modern society – would fill a building the size of the Superdome. In other words, keep your biased, ignorant, comments about what you haven’t a clue to yourself.</blockquote> Hey, I'd love to see a demonstration of these so-called principals. Unfortunately, the majority of your party hasn't a clue as to what they actually are. If they did, your guys probably wouldn't have given away (sans strings or accountability) as much as they already have. Sounds like Obama's just following your lead.

You know chuck, you are a real asshole. What you don’t know about conservatism – its history, its core principles, its role in the formation of modern society – would fill a building the size of the Superdome. In other words, keep your biased, ignorant, comments about what you haven’t a clue to yourself.

Hey, I’d love to see a demonstration of these so-called principals. Unfortunately, the majority of your party hasn’t a clue as to what they actually are.

If they did, your guys probably wouldn’t have given away (sans strings or accountability) as much as they already have. Sounds like Obama’s just following your lead.

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