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By: UNRR

UNRR — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:33:44 +0000

This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 1/4/2009, at The Unreligious Right

By: Bs jones

Bs jones — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:43:39 +0000

cdor,
Let me be clear. I think the Holocaust of 6 million European Jews is horrific. I do not want to see that Holocaust repeated in Israel. I do not believe “6 million dead Jews means we get oil.”

I do believe this:

America’s strategic interests will not always be perfectly aligned with all of its allies all of the time.

When America’s interests diverge from one of its allies, America should put its own interests ahead of its ally.

America’s overwhelming strategic interest in the middle east is to ensure secure access to the oil there.

There may be a time when what’s good for Israel is not what’s good for America.

If that time comes, America should do what’s good for America first, considering what’s good for Israel second.

I do not think this “America first” position is radical or anti-semitic.

By: Bs jones

Bs jones — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:08:02 +0000

Jim Howard,
You are right and I am wrong about the attribution of the General Motors quote. After doing about a minute of online research, I found this:

It was once famously said by General Motors’ president Charles E. Wilson, “What’s good for General Motors is good for America” — one of the most repeated of modern quotations.

Thanks for the correction.

By: lionheart

lionheart — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:06:12 +0000

You may not say it, but I will- Greenwald is an anti-semite. Its sad that Salon would dishonor their site to such a degree by employing a jew-hater. Also, I’m not so sure he’s a liar as much as a hater. Haters are illogical, so believe their propagandist hate. If you believe it, even if its not true, are you a liar?

I don’t think Greenwald or too many lefties are anti-Semites. Anti-Israeli for sure - perhaps even resentful of the moral call American Jews have on our sympathies. But they are not haters of Jews as a race or religion.

ed.

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:09:28 +0000

People like Greenwald are fine examples of leftists offering opinions, that they relish as facts.

Neither has any practical experience in the area of diplomatic or military operations. Neither lives with the threat of a Qassam rocket landing in your front yard while their children play. Or live in a constant state of paranoia, wondering if the young Arab man sitting next to them is strapped with 20 lbs. of C-4.

It is so easy to pass judgment while sipping your latte and your biggest worry is saving the spotted owl. I wonder how much their opinions would change if they were under the threat of utter destruction, everyday. I would wager they would be the first calling for the destruction of whomever was interrupting their oh so important lives.

By: cdor

cdor — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:19:00 +0000

Let me see, I am trying to understand how this works. The U.S. stands by and watches as 100 million arabs with trillions in oil wealth finally overcome and exterminate Israel and, of course, all the Jews within (for it’s not the land, I hope you realize, it’s the Jews these arabs want) then we in the U.S. get all the oil we want. Therefore it’s in America’s interest to allow that to happen. Am I getting it right?

Well now I understand…makes perfect sense. For just 6 million dead Jews, we get oil. Hell, that was easy.

What’s that called, a Realist foreign policy?

How about this for realism: We, as Americans, stand up for those in the world that share our civilization, our arts and sciences, our values and human instincts, our freedom. We do this because we are absolutely confidant that our civilization is superior to the 6th century medevilism (the term incorporates evil for a reason) that is Islam.

And then we go out and DRILL FOR OUR OWN DAMN OIL.

By: the Fly-Man

the Fly-Man — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:54:32 +0000

Rick, your absolute over the top reaction to Glenn’s post is exactly what he’s writing about. For you it’s a no brainer to unequivocally support Israel, Glenn is, once again doing what he does so immaculately, bringing to light the glaring split between the public’s expressed interest and the leaders in BOTH political parties views towards Israel.
As far as I’m concerned we treat Israel like John McCain did with Sarah Palin during their joint interview, pedantically and with arrogant paternalism. We need to let the Israelis do what is in their best national interest and let THEM accept the consequences, not us buffering all the criticism for them. Good luck with taking on Glenn.

By: SShiell

SShiell — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:38:25 +0000

The actual source of the citation is one time GM CEO and Eisenhaur’s Defense Secretary, “Engine Charlie” Wilson, who declared, “What’s good for America is good for General Motors, and what’s good for General Motors is good for America.”

By: shaun

shaun — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 12:14:04 +0000

Shorter Moran:

Greenwald uses mistruths to point out uncomfortable truths.