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		<title>By: lu-ee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lu-ee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear sara in va, 

....sorry but I dont believe in conspiracies that can take down our government. And when it goes down what does that accomplish? 

You cynically hint at seeds because we wont have food, well then the entire world wont have food. no one would have food,  even those who "take it down." what is the point with that? if there was a conspiracy it would always seek self-preservation. 

...thru hard work of americans and the income they generate, there are still many ways to be successful as well as honest, even in the supposed worst of times.

...as we speak there is positive news as much as negative (many companies are experiencing increased profits from the 4th quarter of the year before, from leggo to visa, from 30 to at least 50% increase over...) 

....but the liberal media is only reporting the bad so that the socialist stimulis package gets passed on fear of some make-believe BS depression.  My father grew up during the depression &#38; he says this isnt even close. 

This time next year, things will be no better or worse for me or many folks I know. The only thing different is who will be crying wolf or the sky is falling. last year it was paulson &#38; pelosi, now its obama and pelosi, next year it could be santa claus &#38; rudolph the red-nose senator...

really pathetic at who can become a "national leader" these days...best sitcom comedy ever.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear sara in va, </p>
<p>&#8230;.sorry but I dont believe in conspiracies that can take down our government. And when it goes down what does that accomplish? </p>
<p>You cynically hint at seeds because we wont have food, well then the entire world wont have food. no one would have food,  even those who &#8220;take it down.&#8221; what is the point with that? if there was a conspiracy it would always seek self-preservation. </p>
<p>&#8230;thru hard work of americans and the income they generate, there are still many ways to be successful as well as honest, even in the supposed worst of times.</p>
<p>&#8230;as we speak there is positive news as much as negative (many companies are experiencing increased profits from the 4th quarter of the year before, from leggo to visa, from 30 to at least 50% increase over&#8230;) </p>
<p>&#8230;.but the liberal media is only reporting the bad so that the socialist stimulis package gets passed on fear of some make-believe BS depression.  My father grew up during the depression &amp; he says this isnt even close. </p>
<p>This time next year, things will be no better or worse for me or many folks I know. The only thing different is who will be crying wolf or the sky is falling. last year it was paulson &amp; pelosi, now its obama and pelosi, next year it could be santa claus &amp; rudolph the red-nose senator&#8230;</p>
<p>really pathetic at who can become a &#8220;national leader&#8221; these days&#8230;best sitcom comedy ever.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody interested in reading the SOFA in my other post can find it here:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/56116.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody interested in reading the SOFA in my other post can find it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/56116.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/56116.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick said, "Well, he [Obama] apparently thinks it better that he keep a campaign promise to the anti-war crowd than follow the advice of his generals [on Iraq withdrawal]."

Rick do you have amnesia? What was the name of the guy who signed that 'status of forces agreement' or SOFA with Iraq on December 14, 2008? 

That agreement has more to say about what American troops can and can't do in Iraq than the American 'military brass'. Anyone who reads the SOFA will find it says something about the withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. 

The SOFA establishes that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, subject to possible further negotiations.

Although Obama does not respect Bush, perhaps Obama believes a U.S. President should honor the international security pacts signed by his predecessor. 

By following the SOFA, Obama would be following the wishes of a pact negotiated and signed by Bush and his administration.

What could be more conservative than obeying previously signed agreements by a democratically elected President?

What could show more disregard for conservative principles than ignoring the agreements of a previously democratically elected President and instead doing what unelected generals want.

To summarize: President Bush has already committed the U.S. to a hard timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. That date is December 31st, 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick said, &#8220;Well, he [Obama] apparently thinks it better that he keep a campaign promise to the anti-war crowd than follow the advice of his generals [on Iraq withdrawal].&#8221;</p>
<p>Rick do you have amnesia? What was the name of the guy who signed that &#8217;status of forces agreement&#8217; or SOFA with Iraq on December 14, 2008? </p>
<p>That agreement has more to say about what American troops can and can&#8217;t do in Iraq than the American &#8216;military brass&#8217;. Anyone who reads the SOFA will find it says something about the withdrawal of American forces from Iraq. </p>
<p>The SOFA establishes that U.S. combat forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011, subject to possible further negotiations.</p>
<p>Although Obama does not respect Bush, perhaps Obama believes a U.S. President should honor the international security pacts signed by his predecessor. </p>
<p>By following the SOFA, Obama would be following the wishes of a pact negotiated and signed by Bush and his administration.</p>
<p>What could be more conservative than obeying previously signed agreements by a democratically elected President?</p>
<p>What could show more disregard for conservative principles than ignoring the agreements of a previously democratically elected President and instead doing what unelected generals want.</p>
<p>To summarize: President Bush has already committed the U.S. to a hard timetable for withdrawal from Iraq. That date is December 31st, 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; &lt;i&gt; If Obama “fails” it will mean this nation will go into an economic tailspin ... &lt;/i&gt;

And if he succeeds I suppose we can look forward to "Great Depression II - This Time, It's Personal".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i> If Obama “fails” it will mean this nation will go into an economic tailspin &#8230; </i></p>
<p>And if he succeeds I suppose we can look forward to &#8220;Great Depression II - This Time, It&#8217;s Personal&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John E. Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John E. Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama’s woeful inexperience...&lt;/i&gt;

I can't imagine anyone I &lt;i&gt;admire&lt;/i&gt; competently administering this country if they began with as little experience as Obama. Even if you're the greatest athlete in the world, you don't pick up a tennis racket for the first time and play at Wimbleton. America is going to get it's ass kicked for the next four years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama’s woeful inexperience&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t imagine anyone I <i>admire</i> competently administering this country if they began with as little experience as Obama. Even if you&#8217;re the greatest athlete in the world, you don&#8217;t pick up a tennis racket for the first time and play at Wimbleton. America is going to get it&#8217;s ass kicked for the next four years.</p>
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		<title>By: sara in va</title>
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		<dc:creator>sara in va</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lu-ee  #21

Darling, obviously you have never read Atlas Shrugged.  If you had, you would know that if "they" want to take it down, it will come down. Stubbornly, vindictively, selfishly (like always), just to prove a point.  

Your optimism and self-reliance will serve you well if it happens.  Do you have your seeds handy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lu-ee  #21</p>
<p>Darling, obviously you have never read Atlas Shrugged.  If you had, you would know that if &#8220;they&#8221; want to take it down, it will come down. Stubbornly, vindictively, selfishly (like always), just to prove a point.  </p>
<p>Your optimism and self-reliance will serve you well if it happens.  Do you have your seeds handy?</p>
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		<title>By: obamathered</title>
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		<dc:creator>obamathered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only "well-oiled machine" was the campaign. Obama's actual governance has degenerated into a joke. Obama's woeful inexperience had led him to trust D.C. grandees who drip oil to administer trillions and left-wing loons like Pelosi to draft the legislation to spend it. This isn't the trainwreck. It's only the sound of the train jumping the tracks. The actual crash will be much uglier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only &#8220;well-oiled machine&#8221; was the campaign. Obama&#8217;s actual governance has degenerated into a joke. Obama&#8217;s woeful inexperience had led him to trust D.C. grandees who drip oil to administer trillions and left-wing loons like Pelosi to draft the legislation to spend it. This isn&#8217;t the trainwreck. It&#8217;s only the sound of the train jumping the tracks. The actual crash will be much uglier.</p>
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		<title>By: lu-ee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lu-ee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why is it that we always hear "lets hope Obama doesnt fail because then the country &#38; economy will go into a tailspin?"

...can someone please show me the proof to such outlandish and hyperbolic comments? How has the president come by such power?

...the USA is not embodied in the office of the president, the legislative or judicial branches. We do not pledge allegiance to any man or woman but to the USA.  The Spirit of the USA is housed in the spirit of its people. 

...and frankly the people are more self-reliant, more compitent more moral and intelligent, more full of common sense, then any government official. They are so much more than anyone is giving them credit for.  

we can, we have and we will survive even if Obama becomes an incompetent and irrelevant president. The country is so much more than the President. lets be real. personally I believe, i do not hope, but i do believe, Obama will go down as one of the worst prez's ever.  He will be one of the worst because he was created by a left-wing corrupt political machine that is held together by special interest groups, by ideologues and by a proganda-producing press.  Reality hasnt set in yet that what these left-wing folks have inhereited is beyone their intellectual, moral, and emotional capabilities.

enjoy the ride folks and thank the Lord for the little guys &#38; gals who built this country, made it great, continue to cherish &#38; protect it AND will keep it secure for future generations &#38; the world to enjoy. The prez simply gets the keys to the kingdom for 4-8 yrs and then turns them back in for someone else.

It is not the prez who will save this country for future generations but its citizens. JUST LIKE IN KY WHERE THE FEDS ARE A NO-SHOW AND ITS UP TO LOCALS TO SAVE THEMSELVES. I REST MY CASE.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is it that we always hear &#8220;lets hope Obama doesnt fail because then the country &amp; economy will go into a tailspin?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;can someone please show me the proof to such outlandish and hyperbolic comments? How has the president come by such power?</p>
<p>&#8230;the USA is not embodied in the office of the president, the legislative or judicial branches. We do not pledge allegiance to any man or woman but to the USA.  The Spirit of the USA is housed in the spirit of its people. </p>
<p>&#8230;and frankly the people are more self-reliant, more compitent more moral and intelligent, more full of common sense, then any government official. They are so much more than anyone is giving them credit for.  </p>
<p>we can, we have and we will survive even if Obama becomes an incompetent and irrelevant president. The country is so much more than the President. lets be real. personally I believe, i do not hope, but i do believe, Obama will go down as one of the worst prez&#8217;s ever.  He will be one of the worst because he was created by a left-wing corrupt political machine that is held together by special interest groups, by ideologues and by a proganda-producing press.  Reality hasnt set in yet that what these left-wing folks have inhereited is beyone their intellectual, moral, and emotional capabilities.</p>
<p>enjoy the ride folks and thank the Lord for the little guys &amp; gals who built this country, made it great, continue to cherish &amp; protect it AND will keep it secure for future generations &amp; the world to enjoy. The prez simply gets the keys to the kingdom for 4-8 yrs and then turns them back in for someone else.</p>
<p>It is not the prez who will save this country for future generations but its citizens. JUST LIKE IN KY WHERE THE FEDS ARE A NO-SHOW AND ITS UP TO LOCALS TO SAVE THEMSELVES. I REST MY CASE.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: lionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't believe I agree with Chuck (first time for everything).  I don't get the distinction between "oversight" of how the bailout money is spent, and decisions about how it is spent.  Oversight without authority is not oversight (unless I misunderstand the term).  Oversight with authority equals decision making (or at minimum, influence on decision making).

Of course, I disagree with the bailout in general, but now that they are standing with their hands out, they need to be accountable to me (and you).  If they pay their own way, let the stock holders decide if it's too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe I agree with Chuck (first time for everything).  I don&#8217;t get the distinction between &#8220;oversight&#8221; of how the bailout money is spent, and decisions about how it is spent.  Oversight without authority is not oversight (unless I misunderstand the term).  Oversight with authority equals decision making (or at minimum, influence on decision making).</p>
<p>Of course, I disagree with the bailout in general, but now that they are standing with their hands out, they need to be accountable to me (and you).  If they pay their own way, let the stock holders decide if it&#8217;s too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are underestimating how potentially damaging all of this is to Obama.  He ran as the Messiah, of hope an change, of shaking up Washington and bringing ethics back.  Now, not just one, two, or even three, but &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;four&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; appointees are now tainted.  

This is obviously anecdotal, but working in one of the bluest of blue states, Rhode Island, I have been hearing people all day talk about how disappointed they are with the Obama administration.  The idea of Washington elites not paying their taxes and getting away with it, along with a tax cheat running the IRS, resonates with people, even many who voted for HopeChange.  The stimulus bill continues to plummit in popularity, and as you mentioned, the tension with the joint chiefs is troubling.  

Just what gives us the impression that Obama will succeed?  The Presidency is a difficult job, and Obama has never been successful at running &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.  While I agree that we are not seeing the wholesale collapse of the Obama administration, the latest trends should show some fall in his popular support in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are underestimating how potentially damaging all of this is to Obama.  He ran as the Messiah, of hope an change, of shaking up Washington and bringing ethics back.  Now, not just one, two, or even three, but <b><i>four</i></b> appointees are now tainted.  </p>
<p>This is obviously anecdotal, but working in one of the bluest of blue states, Rhode Island, I have been hearing people all day talk about how disappointed they are with the Obama administration.  The idea of Washington elites not paying their taxes and getting away with it, along with a tax cheat running the IRS, resonates with people, even many who voted for HopeChange.  The stimulus bill continues to plummit in popularity, and as you mentioned, the tension with the joint chiefs is troubling.  </p>
<p>Just what gives us the impression that Obama will succeed?  The Presidency is a difficult job, and Obama has never been successful at running <b><i>anything</i></b>.  While I agree that we are not seeing the wholesale collapse of the Obama administration, the latest trends should show some fall in his popular support in the near future.</p>
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