Comments on: IDEOLOGY vs PRINCIPLES? SCHWARZENEGGER HIDES UNDER THE BUS http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/ Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto. Fri, 17 Apr 2026 04:21:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Abandon your principles, Schwarzenegger says. And does. - Orange Punch - OCRegister.com http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757913 Abandon your principles, Schwarzenegger says. And does. - Orange Punch - OCRegister.com Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:23:39 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757913 [...] Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, whom we may as well refer to as Gov. Chameleon, says the trouble with Republicans is they won’t abandon their principles. [...] [...] Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, whom we may as well refer to as Gov. Chameleon, says the trouble with Republicans is they won’t abandon their principles. [...]

]]> By: Chris http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757903 Chris Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:57:59 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757903 Late to conversation but: 1) Did Arnold ever claim to be a conservative? 2) Are we confusing conservative principles with Republican politics? 3) How upset should Republicans be when a moderate Republican manages to stay in office, address a catastrophic budget crisis and "succeed" in spite of a decidedly Democratic and partisan state legislature? 4) I'm wholeheartedly behind the idea of clear, firm principles underlying governing. And I have "conservative sensibilities" regarding government's ability to solve a problem vs exacerbate a problem. However, is it not praiseworthy, when a politician, democrat or republican, effectively addresses a problem in spite of complexity, partisanship etc. Isn't it good for the republican party to say "We're the party that can tackle tough problems" Late to conversation but:
1) Did Arnold ever claim to be a conservative?
2) Are we confusing conservative principles with Republican politics?
3) How upset should Republicans be when a moderate Republican manages to stay in office, address a catastrophic budget crisis and “succeed” in spite of a decidedly Democratic and partisan state legislature?
4) I’m wholeheartedly behind the idea of clear, firm principles underlying governing. And I have “conservative sensibilities” regarding government’s ability to solve a problem vs exacerbate a problem. However, is it not praiseworthy, when a politician, democrat or republican, effectively addresses a problem in spite of complexity, partisanship etc. Isn’t it good for the republican party to say “We’re the party that can tackle tough problems”

]]> By: bsjones http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757875 bsjones Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:26:50 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757875 O.K., here's another one. Northern Trust Bank received $1.6 billion in TARP money (i.e., tax payer money). They were so happy to take your money they threw a party complete with trinkets from ... TIFFANY AND CO. The whole sickening story can be read here: http://economistsview.typepad.com/timduy/2009/02/more-banks-behaving-badly.html Maybe we should put accountability up there with tax cuts as a foundational part of conservatism. It might even get us a few votes. : What a minute. Yeah. That guy over there. The one in the Dior tux. No, not him. The one eating the seared salmon. Yeah!! Isn't that Rick Santelli? O.K., here’s another one.

Northern Trust Bank received $1.6 billion in TARP money (i.e., tax payer money). They were so happy to take your money they threw a party complete with trinkets from … TIFFANY AND CO.

The whole sickening story can be read here:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/timduy/2009/02/more-banks-behaving-badly.html

Maybe we should put accountability up there with tax cuts as a foundational part of conservatism. It might even get us a few votes.

:

What a minute. Yeah. That guy over there. The one in the Dior tux. No, not him. The one eating the seared salmon. Yeah!! Isn’t that Rick Santelli?

]]> By: Robert Ehrenkaufer http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757874 Robert Ehrenkaufer Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:08:50 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757874 I have long argued that compromise is possible whereas it does not directly contradict principle. We can compromise on tax cuts inasmuch as the amount of the tax cut is negotiable but not the principle that government should not spend unnecessarily. Liberals are absolutely committed to the false notion that compromise and bipartisanship are equated to total agreement with their ideas. I absolutely advocate compromise but rail against subjugation to the ideals and principles that represent all that I oppose. <a>The Silent Majority</a> I have long argued that compromise is possible whereas it does not directly contradict principle. We can compromise on tax cuts inasmuch as the amount of the tax cut is negotiable but not the principle that government should not spend unnecessarily. Liberals are absolutely committed to the false notion that compromise and bipartisanship are equated to total agreement with their ideas. I absolutely advocate compromise but rail against subjugation to the ideals and principles that represent all that I oppose. The Silent Majority

]]> By: bsjones http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757873 bsjones Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:21:01 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757873 Sara in VA, I wrote this with you in mind. It's all about sh*tty-bank, I mean Citi-Bank. TARP 1 25 BILLION LOAN (at below market interest rates) TARP 2 20 BILLION LOAN PLUS 300 BILLION IN LOAN GUARANTEES FOR BAD ASSETS For anybody interested, all this happened in 2008. Bush II was still SUPREME LEADER, so this was not Obamanomics. The funny thing is, Citi-Bank could be purchased on the stock market for only 20 billion. Since we have paid for Citi two times over, why don't "We the People" own this bank? All of this means, "We the People" are on the hook to the tune of 350 Billion dollars FOR JUST ONE BANK. QUESTIONS: Who is getting the welfare now? Who is paying for the failed bets taken by Sh*tty-Bank? If you invested this much money in a business, would you want a say in how it was run? Just asking. Sara in VA,

I wrote this with you in mind. It’s all about sh*tty-bank, I mean Citi-Bank.

TARP 1 25 BILLION LOAN (at below market interest rates)
TARP 2 20 BILLION LOAN PLUS 300 BILLION IN LOAN GUARANTEES FOR BAD ASSETS

For anybody interested, all this happened in 2008. Bush II was still SUPREME LEADER, so this was not Obamanomics.

The funny thing is, Citi-Bank could be purchased on the stock market for only 20 billion. Since we have paid for Citi two times over, why don’t “We the People” own this bank?

All of this means, “We the People” are on the hook to the tune of 350 Billion dollars FOR JUST ONE BANK.

QUESTIONS:
Who is getting the welfare now?
Who is paying for the failed bets taken by Sh*tty-Bank?
If you invested this much money in a business, would you want a say in how it was run?

Just asking.

]]> By: Scrapiron http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757866 Scrapiron Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:42:45 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757866 The terminator is part of the Kennedy family by marriage and only ran as a republican because the current gov was in hot water with the citizens. Anyone running as a republican would have won. Now that he's proven he's a failure, as all democrats do, he's now in full CYA mode. The terminator is part of the Kennedy family by marriage and only ran as a republican because the current gov was in hot water with the citizens. Anyone running as a republican would have won. Now that he’s proven he’s a failure, as all democrats do, he’s now in full CYA mode.

]]> By: lionheart http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757865 lionheart Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:12:25 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757865 Michael, Great song! Very good excuse. Michael,

Great song! Very good excuse.

]]> By: michael reynolds http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757864 michael reynolds Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:35:53 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757864 Lionheart: I often have music on while I write. So here's my excuse: I was listening to Jeff Beck. I'm not saying it's true, but it's a pretty good excuse, don't you think? Lionheart:

I often have music on while I write. So here’s my excuse: I was listening to Jeff Beck.

I’m not saying it’s true, but it’s a pretty good excuse, don’t you think?

]]> By: lionheart http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757861 lionheart Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:34:18 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757861 Michael (comment 14), are you a hash-house harrier? I've been to my share of down-downs, but I never figured you for one :-) And yes, I do stand corrected. Michael (comment 14), are you a hash-house harrier? I’ve been to my share of down-downs, but I never figured you for one :-)

And yes, I do stand corrected.

]]> By: bsjones http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/02/23/ideology-vs-principles-schwarzenegger-hides-under-the-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-1757858 bsjones Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:35:04 +0000 http://rightwingnuthouse.com/?p=3425#comment-1757858 If any of the stuff in the post, The "Americans want bipartisanship", is true, we are in big trouble. Read it here: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/ If any of the stuff in the post, The “Americans want bipartisanship”, is true, we are in big trouble.

Read it here:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

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