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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 05:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who gave them the money in the first place. Put Harry Reid in the stocks</description>
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		<title>By: CottShop</title>
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		<dc:creator>CottShop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck- bingo- it really is chump change compared to the pork in the 'stimulus' bills. Yeah, $165 million is nothing to sneeze at, but then again, these are corporate execs who 'earned' that money, while the 'stimulus' bill is simply taking money from one pocket- ours, and depositing it in the other pocket, the governments. Reading the statements by the AIG chief today, the company apparently is trying to cut losses, bolster profits, and pay the loans back, but hits isn't going to happen overnight. I'm no fan of AIG, but they are at least trying in my opinion, and While the execs probably should forego their bonuses hits year, or at least take a cut, at least they are working and 'earning' while they are trying to pay back the loan- our gov simply wants to pilfer money without doing any work (Unless you call scheming to steal bonuses and people's money through higher taxes, 'work').

I'd personally rather see the execs keep at least some of their bonuses, and be held to higher standards for performance to give them the incentive to do the absolute best they can for the company during hits downturn for their company then to see them give back a psaltery $165 million and be bitter and not work as hard as a result, but the government is eying that $165 million as though it were their last coins in the piggy bank, and they mistakenly think this 'show' of 'force' will appease the country and make it look as though they are proactively 'watching out for us' all while robbing us of hundreds of billions of dollars to fund pet projects. Insanity Squared!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck- bingo- it really is chump change compared to the pork in the &#8217;stimulus&#8217; bills. Yeah, $165 million is nothing to sneeze at, but then again, these are corporate execs who &#8216;earned&#8217; that money, while the &#8217;stimulus&#8217; bill is simply taking money from one pocket- ours, and depositing it in the other pocket, the governments. Reading the statements by the AIG chief today, the company apparently is trying to cut losses, bolster profits, and pay the loans back, but hits isn&#8217;t going to happen overnight. I&#8217;m no fan of AIG, but they are at least trying in my opinion, and While the execs probably should forego their bonuses hits year, or at least take a cut, at least they are working and &#8216;earning&#8217; while they are trying to pay back the loan- our gov simply wants to pilfer money without doing any work (Unless you call scheming to steal bonuses and people&#8217;s money through higher taxes, &#8216;work&#8217;).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d personally rather see the execs keep at least some of their bonuses, and be held to higher standards for performance to give them the incentive to do the absolute best they can for the company during hits downturn for their company then to see them give back a psaltery $165 million and be bitter and not work as hard as a result, but the government is eying that $165 million as though it were their last coins in the piggy bank, and they mistakenly think this &#8217;show&#8217; of &#8216;force&#8217; will appease the country and make it look as though they are proactively &#8216;watching out for us&#8217; all while robbing us of hundreds of billions of dollars to fund pet projects. Insanity Squared!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck is right.  The AIG bonuses are lunch money in the grand scheme of things.  But it's OUR lunch money now, so we have a right to be concerned.

And Funny Man is right.

     The oil barons and world bankers have been running the show since 1913.  Obama may have had high hopes for his own plans while running for office, but he is singing their tune now.  Next step - a one world currency.  You have heard it mentioned already , but come April and the next G8 meeting, this will be proposed as the solution to the world's economic problems.  Why do you think he has been such a doomsayer until the press (who hasn't a clue) called him on it.  They need the world to think that nothing can solve this economic crisis, not even the wonderful porkulis package, until the world bankers step in and offer their survival plan.

     The world is about to undergo a dramatic change if they get their way.  I'm not sure what can be done to stop it.  And I'm not sure it needs to be stopped.  But I would sure like to have the time consider it more. Right now my head is spinning with the speed at which things are happening, and like the rest of us, I have my daily life to be concerned about and have not had the chance to analyze the possible consequences thoroughly. The only thing that might stand in the financial elite's way is the Supreme Court.  We'll see how they handle the Congress and Obama's attempt to impose a 95% tax on the AIG exec's bonuses.  If they crumble under that, America as we know it today, and the constitution, are pretty much in tatters.

     Then again, I could just be some crazy conspiracy theorist :-)



Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck is right.  The AIG bonuses are lunch money in the grand scheme of things.  But it&#8217;s OUR lunch money now, so we have a right to be concerned.</p>
<p>And Funny Man is right.</p>
<p>     The oil barons and world bankers have been running the show since 1913.  Obama may have had high hopes for his own plans while running for office, but he is singing their tune now.  Next step - a one world currency.  You have heard it mentioned already , but come April and the next G8 meeting, this will be proposed as the solution to the world&#8217;s economic problems.  Why do you think he has been such a doomsayer until the press (who hasn&#8217;t a clue) called him on it.  They need the world to think that nothing can solve this economic crisis, not even the wonderful porkulis package, until the world bankers step in and offer their survival plan.</p>
<p>     The world is about to undergo a dramatic change if they get their way.  I&#8217;m not sure what can be done to stop it.  And I&#8217;m not sure it needs to be stopped.  But I would sure like to have the time consider it more. Right now my head is spinning with the speed at which things are happening, and like the rest of us, I have my daily life to be concerned about and have not had the chance to analyze the possible consequences thoroughly. The only thing that might stand in the financial elite&#8217;s way is the Supreme Court.  We&#8217;ll see how they handle the Congress and Obama&#8217;s attempt to impose a 95% tax on the AIG exec&#8217;s bonuses.  If they crumble under that, America as we know it today, and the constitution, are pretty much in tatters.</p>
<p>     Then again, I could just be some crazy conspiracy theorist <img src='http://rightwingnuthouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tucson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Tucson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This AIG bonus thing is a distraction to keep the citizenry from asking where the really big money went.</description>
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		<title>By: CottShop</title>
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		<dc:creator>CottShop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[[Does anyone here wonder why it was the gop was voted out of power? ]]

Nope- The American people have lost hteir sense of pride- plain and simple- We were ocne a nation of 'do it yourselfers', but have slowly but surely devolved into a nation of 'Gimme what I Deserve! Now!" We as a nation wanted our mommy, and Obama promissed to be our Mommy- paying off our debts, giving us free healthcare, making sure noone bullies us etc etc etc. This appealed to our sense of entitlement, and THAT is why the GOP lost- America wanted their mommy, and they were willing to sacrifice hteir core values in order to secure this 'security'! 

The GOP is just fine, and it's my belief that America will wake up, realize they have been duped, and get back to hte basics that instilled a sense of pride and accomplishment- EVERY socialist society goes htrough this sense of entitlement, then when hte money runs out, and it becomes clear the system is broken, there is always a swing back to core values- I just hope it doesn't take too long for us to realize just how devestating such income redistribution really is, and hopefully the next GOP candidate will REALLY stress just how important self respect and self accomplishment really are! This is what was missing in the elections- a sensible voice that outlined just how devestating that selling our souls for the sake of a quick buck really is. We NEED a voice i nthe wilderness to snap us out of our 'utopian comma' and even to shame us back into reality so that WE- the people, start taking care of ourselves the way WE the people are supposed to- not with our hands outstretched hoping to pick the pockets of 'the rich', but with our faces to the wind, our hands to the plow, breaking the ground we've let go to waste once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[[Does anyone here wonder why it was the gop was voted out of power? ]]</p>
<p>Nope- The American people have lost hteir sense of pride- plain and simple- We were ocne a nation of &#8216;do it yourselfers&#8217;, but have slowly but surely devolved into a nation of &#8216;Gimme what I Deserve! Now!&#8221; We as a nation wanted our mommy, and Obama promissed to be our Mommy- paying off our debts, giving us free healthcare, making sure noone bullies us etc etc etc. This appealed to our sense of entitlement, and THAT is why the GOP lost- America wanted their mommy, and they were willing to sacrifice hteir core values in order to secure this &#8217;security&#8217;! </p>
<p>The GOP is just fine, and it&#8217;s my belief that America will wake up, realize they have been duped, and get back to hte basics that instilled a sense of pride and accomplishment- EVERY socialist society goes htrough this sense of entitlement, then when hte money runs out, and it becomes clear the system is broken, there is always a swing back to core values- I just hope it doesn&#8217;t take too long for us to realize just how devestating such income redistribution really is, and hopefully the next GOP candidate will REALLY stress just how important self respect and self accomplishment really are! This is what was missing in the elections- a sensible voice that outlined just how devestating that selling our souls for the sake of a quick buck really is. We NEED a voice i nthe wilderness to snap us out of our &#8216;utopian comma&#8217; and even to shame us back into reality so that WE- the people, start taking care of ourselves the way WE the people are supposed to- not with our hands outstretched hoping to pick the pockets of &#8216;the rich&#8217;, but with our faces to the wind, our hands to the plow, breaking the ground we&#8217;ve let go to waste once again.</p>
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		<title>By: cdor</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you seem to be the only one posting here (including our host) who is intersted in sorting out the facts of the AIG bonuses before criticizing them.

As far as Dodd is concerned, I don't know if he wrote the amendment exempting bonuses, but he sure passed the bill on to the Senate and voted on it. Obama signed it. Did no one read it? Typical of our society today, no one is responsible for their own actions.

And the stocks for immoral behavior... that sounds like a truly "shovel ready" project that could be immediately assimilated into our Dear Leader's stimulus package. The trouble is, how do we make them "green" and are these jobs that Americans will do? We are gonna need lots of 'em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you seem to be the only one posting here (including our host) who is intersted in sorting out the facts of the AIG bonuses before criticizing them.</p>
<p>As far as Dodd is concerned, I don&#8217;t know if he wrote the amendment exempting bonuses, but he sure passed the bill on to the Senate and voted on it. Obama signed it. Did no one read it? Typical of our society today, no one is responsible for their own actions.</p>
<p>And the stocks for immoral behavior&#8230; that sounds like a truly &#8220;shovel ready&#8221; project that could be immediately assimilated into our Dear Leader&#8217;s stimulus package. The trouble is, how do we make them &#8220;green&#8221; and are these jobs that Americans will do? We are gonna need lots of &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it turns out, these were retention bonuses.

     Last year, AIG seeing it was in dire straits due to it's sub prime mortgage involvement, began divesting and reorganizing sections of it's business to save money.  Part of these changes involved the loss of many executive level positions.  

     In order to make the reorganization happen as smoothly as possible, some of these execs were asked to stay on and use their experience and knowledge of the inner workings of these departments to guide the process.  Knowing they would lose their jobs when it was all done, AIG offered them these bonuses to keep them from just walking out.

     That said, I love the idea of the stocks for punishment for a whole range of crimes.  I suspect that day after day of public humiliation would do wonders for the recidivism rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it turns out, these were retention bonuses.</p>
<p>     Last year, AIG seeing it was in dire straits due to it&#8217;s sub prime mortgage involvement, began divesting and reorganizing sections of it&#8217;s business to save money.  Part of these changes involved the loss of many executive level positions.  </p>
<p>     In order to make the reorganization happen as smoothly as possible, some of these execs were asked to stay on and use their experience and knowledge of the inner workings of these departments to guide the process.  Knowing they would lose their jobs when it was all done, AIG offered them these bonuses to keep them from just walking out.</p>
<p>     That said, I love the idea of the stocks for punishment for a whole range of crimes.  I suspect that day after day of public humiliation would do wonders for the recidivism rate.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 05:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sometimes wonder if we really understand who is running the show. Democrats this, Republicans that; however, in the end both of them are massively outgunned by the financial elite. Yes, I believe still, they just didn't change the outwards appearance fast enough. In the meantime, we the people are busy fussing and fighting of whose to blame while they move their assets elsewhere. Yes well who is to blame? Unfortunately, in my experience human nature is easily corruptible, not necessarily in a direct way; me as likely as you, Republicans as likely as Democrats. You can't really trace it back to one event and when Liberals say it's because we went to bed with the devil they are right and when we say our country lost the moral compass because of moral relativism due to liberal 'diversity' we are right too.
Perhaps though, something good will come out of it all, a needed catharsis, a readjustment of values a comeback of (virtual?) stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sometimes wonder if we really understand who is running the show. Democrats this, Republicans that; however, in the end both of them are massively outgunned by the financial elite. Yes, I believe still, they just didn&#8217;t change the outwards appearance fast enough. In the meantime, we the people are busy fussing and fighting of whose to blame while they move their assets elsewhere. Yes well who is to blame? Unfortunately, in my experience human nature is easily corruptible, not necessarily in a direct way; me as likely as you, Republicans as likely as Democrats. You can&#8217;t really trace it back to one event and when Liberals say it&#8217;s because we went to bed with the devil they are right and when we say our country lost the moral compass because of moral relativism due to liberal &#8216;diversity&#8217; we are right too.<br />
Perhaps though, something good will come out of it all, a needed catharsis, a readjustment of values a comeback of (virtual?) stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd give everything I own to see O'Dumbo in stocks with Barney Frank and Dodd flanking him. Then you could start with the real criminals in the democrat party.

Joe said a mouthful of BS. O'Dumbo and his criminal secretary of the treasury have been working on the bailout since the middle of last year. They set it up and the democrat controlled congress passed it. GWB was guilty of requesting a large package but wised up and only let half of it out. O'Dumbo requested the other half. Chris Dodd put the protection of the criminals getting the bonus money for destroying the country in the bill. Remember the 1,000+ pages no one read and all democrats voted for, just add three traitors from the senate republicans and you have the targets for the first major lynching party to come soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d give everything I own to see O&#8217;Dumbo in stocks with Barney Frank and Dodd flanking him. Then you could start with the real criminals in the democrat party.</p>
<p>Joe said a mouthful of BS. O&#8217;Dumbo and his criminal secretary of the treasury have been working on the bailout since the middle of last year. They set it up and the democrat controlled congress passed it. GWB was guilty of requesting a large package but wised up and only let half of it out. O&#8217;Dumbo requested the other half. Chris Dodd put the protection of the criminals getting the bonus money for destroying the country in the bill. Remember the 1,000+ pages no one read and all democrats voted for, just add three traitors from the senate republicans and you have the targets for the first major lynching party to come soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone here wonder why it was the gop was voted out of power? If Obama fails his party will get a whipping in 2010 and Caribou Barbie will be president in 2012. But for right now we Democrats control everything and we will govern the way we see fit. Obama isn't to blame for AIG's blunders, that was laid on his lap. Bush left us in a mess, so the gop can either help right the country or stfu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone here wonder why it was the gop was voted out of power? If Obama fails his party will get a whipping in 2010 and Caribou Barbie will be president in 2012. But for right now we Democrats control everything and we will govern the way we see fit. Obama isn&#8217;t to blame for AIG&#8217;s blunders, that was laid on his lap. Bush left us in a mess, so the gop can either help right the country or stfu.</p>
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