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		<title>By: funny man</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/03/28/obamas-afpak-plan-just-about-right/comment-page-1/#comment-1758719</link>
		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 04:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob, so what is your plan? Thank God Condi Rice got rid of those neocons. Do you want them back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, so what is your plan? Thank God Condi Rice got rid of those neocons. Do you want them back?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rick, 
I hope all's well.

Obama's plan is a recipe for defeat, and I'll go into details as to why over at my place shortly.

Two things I don't think you're taking into account in your own analysis.

A) Afghanistan is LANDLOCKED and 75% of our supplies flow through Karachi. The aid the Bush Administration gave Pakistan was nothing more than a bribe to keep the pipeline open.Obama's aid is more of the same, and it will flow into th epockets of some of the most corrupt rulers on earth.

Recently, Kyrgystan tossed us out of a base we had been using adjacent to Afghanistan, but suddenly 'reconsidered' after the Russians made a deal with Obama to allow supplies in from the north through their territory. What that cost us is only to be imagined.And the flow can be cut off at any time.

b)Musharraf fell primarily because Condi Rice and the State Department insisted on forcing hime to allow benazhir Bhutto in as a 'partner' with the idea of creating more of a Paki 'democracy'.if we hadn't he'd likely still be there, and he was much more of a friend to the US than either Zardari( leftist, secular, kleptocrat) or Sharif ( Islamist).

See you later...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rick,<br />
I hope all&#8217;s well.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s plan is a recipe for defeat, and I&#8217;ll go into details as to why over at my place shortly.</p>
<p>Two things I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re taking into account in your own analysis.</p>
<p>A) Afghanistan is LANDLOCKED and 75% of our supplies flow through Karachi. The aid the Bush Administration gave Pakistan was nothing more than a bribe to keep the pipeline open.Obama&#8217;s aid is more of the same, and it will flow into th epockets of some of the most corrupt rulers on earth.</p>
<p>Recently, Kyrgystan tossed us out of a base we had been using adjacent to Afghanistan, but suddenly &#8216;reconsidered&#8217; after the Russians made a deal with Obama to allow supplies in from the north through their territory. What that cost us is only to be imagined.And the flow can be cut off at any time.</p>
<p>b)Musharraf fell primarily because Condi Rice and the State Department insisted on forcing hime to allow benazhir Bhutto in as a &#8216;partner&#8217; with the idea of creating more of a Paki &#8216;democracy&#8217;.if we hadn&#8217;t he&#8217;d likely still be there, and he was much more of a friend to the US than either Zardari( leftist, secular, kleptocrat) or Sharif ( Islamist).</p>
<p>See you later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: busboy33</title>
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		<dc:creator>busboy33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information/education.  Now, having fulfilled my "learn something new every day" quotient, I can happily melt my brain into tapioca with some cartoons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information/education.  Now, having fulfilled my &#8220;learn something new every day&#8221; quotient, I can happily melt my brain into tapioca with some cartoons.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 01:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busboy33,

It is my understanding that there are two types of nuclear war heads.  There are those that rely on atomic fission and those that rely on fusion.  As I understand it, the fusion bombs are the hydrogen bombs.  The ones that rely on fusion have a useful life of about 15 years or so.  The ones that rely on fission will last much longer.  After the Cold War the United States got rid of most of its fission bombs.  The primary ones it has left are the fusion bombs.  In contrast, the Russians kept most of their fission bombs.  The United States government has shown no interest that I'm aware of in either upgrading the nuclear arsenal or in replacing the fusion materials in the current arsenal.  In contrast, the Russians, the Chinese, and others have been busily modernizing their arsenals as well as the means of delivery.  

The reason for the large stockpiles during the Cold War is because both the United States and Russia utilized hardened facilities.  Large arsenals were needed to be able to ensure all of these targets were eliminated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busboy33,</p>
<p>It is my understanding that there are two types of nuclear war heads.  There are those that rely on atomic fission and those that rely on fusion.  As I understand it, the fusion bombs are the hydrogen bombs.  The ones that rely on fusion have a useful life of about 15 years or so.  The ones that rely on fission will last much longer.  After the Cold War the United States got rid of most of its fission bombs.  The primary ones it has left are the fusion bombs.  In contrast, the Russians kept most of their fission bombs.  The United States government has shown no interest that I&#8217;m aware of in either upgrading the nuclear arsenal or in replacing the fusion materials in the current arsenal.  In contrast, the Russians, the Chinese, and others have been busily modernizing their arsenals as well as the means of delivery.  </p>
<p>The reason for the large stockpiles during the Cold War is because both the United States and Russia utilized hardened facilities.  Large arsenals were needed to be able to ensure all of these targets were eliminated.</p>
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		<title>By: busboy33</title>
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		<dc:creator>busboy33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@B. Poster:

Upgrading I have no problem with -- the most expensive thing in the world is the 2nd best military, and as the nukes are our ace in the hole, they should be in top shape.  Heck, the tech advances in rocketry over the last decade alone certainly deserve to be implemented.
In addition to the upgrades, do you also think that the arsenal should be expanded?  One thing I could never understand about the Cold War were the stockpiles of thousands upon thousands of nukes on each side -- as a Chinese general said when questioned about China's remarkably small number of nukes, "how many missles do you need to assure complete global destruction?"
Asuming we still have thousands of birds, we could probably drop/close 20% of the silos/launch vehicles, and the cost savings might cover the upgrades to the rest by itself.
I wasn't aware that warheads "go bad".  Obviously, tech degrades over time, but do you mean that the fissionable components become unusuable?  My physics education stopped well before nuclear mechanics, but I had just assumed that the material was stable and viable far beyond the mechanical/electrical components.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@B. Poster:</p>
<p>Upgrading I have no problem with &#8212; the most expensive thing in the world is the 2nd best military, and as the nukes are our ace in the hole, they should be in top shape.  Heck, the tech advances in rocketry over the last decade alone certainly deserve to be implemented.<br />
In addition to the upgrades, do you also think that the arsenal should be expanded?  One thing I could never understand about the Cold War were the stockpiles of thousands upon thousands of nukes on each side &#8212; as a Chinese general said when questioned about China&#8217;s remarkably small number of nukes, &#8220;how many missles do you need to assure complete global destruction?&#8221;<br />
Asuming we still have thousands of birds, we could probably drop/close 20% of the silos/launch vehicles, and the cost savings might cover the upgrades to the rest by itself.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t aware that warheads &#8220;go bad&#8221;.  Obviously, tech degrades over time, but do you mean that the fissionable components become unusuable?  My physics education stopped well before nuclear mechanics, but I had just assumed that the material was stable and viable far beyond the mechanical/electrical components.</p>
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		<title>By: rssg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rssg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B.Poster - as an Air Force veteran, I can tell you're opinions of the USA's arsenal are full of rubbish.

Our nuclear deterrent is still very, very up to date and the best in the world, bar none.  It is constantly being tested, modified and updated.

And economically, we are in a recession.   They happen every 10-15 years, sometimes minor ones more often.  Much of the "talk of doom" is simply spin to advance an agenda.  That's The Bama's schtick; also many in the media, "the end times are coming!", yadda, yadda, yadda. 

We simply need to restrain government spending (excluding defense), adopt more of a flat/fair tax and let the American people use free enterprise to pull us (and the world) out of this recession.

Will it happen with The Bama?  Not likely.   He's a pretty dedicated statist/socialist/social justice/redistributor type.  

November 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B.Poster - as an Air Force veteran, I can tell you&#8217;re opinions of the USA&#8217;s arsenal are full of rubbish.</p>
<p>Our nuclear deterrent is still very, very up to date and the best in the world, bar none.  It is constantly being tested, modified and updated.</p>
<p>And economically, we are in a recession.   They happen every 10-15 years, sometimes minor ones more often.  Much of the &#8220;talk of doom&#8221; is simply spin to advance an agenda.  That&#8217;s The Bama&#8217;s schtick; also many in the media, &#8220;the end times are coming!&#8221;, yadda, yadda, yadda. </p>
<p>We simply need to restrain government spending (excluding defense), adopt more of a flat/fair tax and let the American people use free enterprise to pull us (and the world) out of this recession.</p>
<p>Will it happen with The Bama?  Not likely.   He&#8217;s a pretty dedicated statist/socialist/social justice/redistributor type.  </p>
<p>November 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>busboy33,

You asked a serious question.  I'll give you a serious answer.  Nuclear weapons have a limited life.  Ours have not been upgraded in a long time.  We don't even have the manufacturing facilities for new ones right now.  Not only have they not been upgraded in quite a while.  The weapons and their delivery systems have not been tested in quite a while.  In contrast, the Russians, the Chinese, and even the Pakistanis have been busily modernizing and upgrading their nuclear arsenals in recent years.  Given these factors, there is much doubt as to whether these weapons will work should we need them.  

Upgrading the nuclear arsenal will be an expensive undertaking.  With economy deeply struggling right now and a massive national debt I'm not sure we can even afford to do this right now.  The bottom line is the United States is largely finished as a major world power right now.  It lacks the technology, the finanical wherewtihal, and the training to compete with the dominant powers on earth right now of Russia and China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>busboy33,</p>
<p>You asked a serious question.  I&#8217;ll give you a serious answer.  Nuclear weapons have a limited life.  Ours have not been upgraded in a long time.  We don&#8217;t even have the manufacturing facilities for new ones right now.  Not only have they not been upgraded in quite a while.  The weapons and their delivery systems have not been tested in quite a while.  In contrast, the Russians, the Chinese, and even the Pakistanis have been busily modernizing and upgrading their nuclear arsenals in recent years.  Given these factors, there is much doubt as to whether these weapons will work should we need them.  </p>
<p>Upgrading the nuclear arsenal will be an expensive undertaking.  With economy deeply struggling right now and a massive national debt I&#8217;m not sure we can even afford to do this right now.  The bottom line is the United States is largely finished as a major world power right now.  It lacks the technology, the finanical wherewtihal, and the training to compete with the dominant powers on earth right now of Russia and China.</p>
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		<title>By: rssg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rssg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>busboy33 - I get a kick out of the naive like yourself.  

Islam is not just a religion but very much a political ideology as well.  You do realize that, don't you?  And one hostile to the West for ahhh, centuries. 

I have lived my entire life in Dearbornistan, Michigan, which always had Arabs/Muslims but since about the early 1990's, the Mohammedans started appearing here more and more fundamentalist and radical.  Not one day goes by, not one, where you don't see men and women dressed in the most bizarre "turd world" garb, practicing archaic "cultural customs" in their homes and yards, Sharia Law is not slowly making it's way into our city's civic life and our public schools. 

The liberal (left and right liberal) asks:  how has this happened?

Answer:  Unrestricted, mass, family, chain immigration, that's how.  Plus combine it with the cult of multiculturalism and the lack of pride in being an American shown my most "educators" and politicians.  

Been to England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy lately?  The moooslims are using immigration as a tool of conquest. Islam does not co-exist with other religions.  It is a superiority, dominant ideology-religion.

Please wake up and show some backbone before it's too late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>busboy33 - I get a kick out of the naive like yourself.  </p>
<p>Islam is not just a religion but very much a political ideology as well.  You do realize that, don&#8217;t you?  And one hostile to the West for ahhh, centuries. </p>
<p>I have lived my entire life in Dearbornistan, Michigan, which always had Arabs/Muslims but since about the early 1990&#8217;s, the Mohammedans started appearing here more and more fundamentalist and radical.  Not one day goes by, not one, where you don&#8217;t see men and women dressed in the most bizarre &#8220;turd world&#8221; garb, practicing archaic &#8220;cultural customs&#8221; in their homes and yards, Sharia Law is not slowly making it&#8217;s way into our city&#8217;s civic life and our public schools. </p>
<p>The liberal (left and right liberal) asks:  how has this happened?</p>
<p>Answer:  Unrestricted, mass, family, chain immigration, that&#8217;s how.  Plus combine it with the cult of multiculturalism and the lack of pride in being an American shown my most &#8220;educators&#8221; and politicians.  </p>
<p>Been to England, France, Germany, Holland, Italy lately?  The moooslims are using immigration as a tool of conquest. Islam does not co-exist with other religions.  It is a superiority, dominant ideology-religion.</p>
<p>Please wake up and show some backbone before it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: busboy33</title>
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		<dc:creator>busboy33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@B.Poster:
re: upgrade and expand our nuclear arsenal -- you don't think we have enough nukes to form an effective deterrent? (not being a smarta$$, I mean it as a serious question).

@rssg:
. . . nope, I'm at a loss.  I was trying to come up with something snarky and flippant, but I'm just speechless.  That's some serious, refined-plutonium-grade paranoia and xenophobia my brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@B.Poster:<br />
re: upgrade and expand our nuclear arsenal &#8212; you don&#8217;t think we have enough nukes to form an effective deterrent? (not being a smarta$$, I mean it as a serious question).</p>
<p>@rssg:<br />
. . . nope, I&#8217;m at a loss.  I was trying to come up with something snarky and flippant, but I&#8217;m just speechless.  That&#8217;s some serious, refined-plutonium-grade paranoia and xenophobia my brother.</p>
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		<title>By: rssg</title>
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		<dc:creator>rssg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Fresh Prince's plan?   Ah, about 95% the same as Bush's, just like the Fresh Prince announces an "end" to the war in Irag, when in fact, we've been drawing down troops all through 2008 and Husseins's plan is 95% the same as Bush's. 

What a genius our Statist in Chief is. The only correct strategy with respect to muslims is to kill the worst of the worst and reduce/prevent muslims from immigrating here.  Anything short of that is failure; for they will "Sharia-ize" us just like they are doing to European countries.  

Buy a prayer rug and get your wife/girlfriend a burka - you're gonna need both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Fresh Prince&#8217;s plan?   Ah, about 95% the same as Bush&#8217;s, just like the Fresh Prince announces an &#8220;end&#8221; to the war in Irag, when in fact, we&#8217;ve been drawing down troops all through 2008 and Husseins&#8217;s plan is 95% the same as Bush&#8217;s. </p>
<p>What a genius our Statist in Chief is. The only correct strategy with respect to muslims is to kill the worst of the worst and reduce/prevent muslims from immigrating here.  Anything short of that is failure; for they will &#8220;Sharia-ize&#8221; us just like they are doing to European countries.  </p>
<p>Buy a prayer rug and get your wife/girlfriend a burka - you&#8217;re gonna need both.</p>
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