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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that everyone is putting way too much thought on such an insignificant issue such f---ing daniel Ortega.I agree Barack is not perfect. But he is not a huge ass clown George W. Was. Or at least less of an ass clown.Either way Barack obama is comander in cheif. He will make mistakes let's just hope he learns from his mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everyone is putting way too much thought on such an insignificant issue such f&#8212;ing daniel Ortega.I agree Barack is not perfect. But he is not a huge ass clown George W. Was. Or at least less of an ass clown.Either way Barack obama is comander in cheif. He will make mistakes let&#8217;s just hope he learns from his mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: WAYNE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAYNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 22:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COULD IT BE THAT THE REASON BARACK OBAMA DID NOT DEFEND HIS COUNTRY AGAINST THESE HATEFUL RANTS WAS BECAUSE HE AGREED WITH THEM. AFTER ALL IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HIS SOAKING UP THE HATEFUL RHETORIC OF JEREMIAH WRIGHT AT THE TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST FOR 20 YRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COULD IT BE THAT THE REASON BARACK OBAMA DID NOT DEFEND HIS COUNTRY AGAINST THESE HATEFUL RANTS WAS BECAUSE HE AGREED WITH THEM. AFTER ALL IT COULDN&#8217;T HAVE BEEN THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN HIS SOAKING UP THE HATEFUL RHETORIC OF JEREMIAH WRIGHT AT THE TRINITY UNITED CHURCH OF CHRIST FOR 20 YRS.</p>
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		<title>By: mdaultry</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdaultry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Americans will NOW learn the difference between a "community organizer" and "President of the United States" -- BIG difference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Americans will NOW learn the difference between a &#8220;community organizer&#8221; and &#8220;President of the United States&#8221; &#8212; BIG difference!</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Banality of Obama

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/the-banality-of-obama.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Banality of Obama</p>
<p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/the-banality-of-obama.php" rel="nofollow">http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/the-banality-of-obama.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: DALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 months after the Bay of Pigs -April 1961 (04/61) means he was born in January 1961(01/61). That's probably the truth... Just a Fruedian slip, all the more reason he should prove himself to the American People.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 months after the Bay of Pigs -April 1961 (04/61) means he was born in January 1961(01/61). That&#8217;s probably the truth&#8230; Just a Fruedian slip, all the more reason he should prove himself to the American People.</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, on a negative note we will no longer be able to marshal the forces of the Texas Air National Guard.

It's all so confusing. If we only knew what both countries wanted to achieve in the region we might be able to broker a political settlement.  

Now I remember!! America wants to promote democracy in Central America and Nicaragua wants Marxist Global Domination. 

I guess political accommodation is not going to work after all. I wish Obama was not so smiley and hand shakey with all those thugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, on a negative note we will no longer be able to marshal the forces of the Texas Air National Guard.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all so confusing. If we only knew what both countries wanted to achieve in the region we might be able to broker a political settlement.  </p>
<p>Now I remember!! America wants to promote democracy in Central America and Nicaragua wants Marxist Global Domination. </p>
<p>I guess political accommodation is not going to work after all. I wish Obama was not so smiley and hand shakey with all those thugs.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should set up a tribunal of some sort to try all American actions in South and Central America.  Anyone who feels they have a claim against America can register a complaint and the cases can be tried individually on a case by case basis.  Also, the Americans can bring cases against folks from South and Central Aemrica who have wronged it.  I could turn out that most if not all of American actions within the region are/were fully justified.  Perhaps not.  In any even, it seems unlikely that these things happen in a vacum.  

The main problems I see with the tribunal approach is two fold.  1.) Its hard to imagine a scenario where Aemrica or its government can get a fair trial.  As it stands right now, this court would simply be a kangaroo court designed to try and convict the American government or its officials.  2.) If the court finds that the United States owes reparations to one or more Central or South American countries the Americans would have no choice but to live up to these obligations even if they wanted to not live up to them.  Media scrutiny on the United States and its government is always intense.  As such, the United States would have no choice but honor the terms decided by the court.  Countires in South and Central Aemrica do not face the kind of scrutiny that the United States faces.  As such, it is unlikely there would be any mechanism in place to ensure their compliance with any obligations the court may impose on them.  

Until these issues are addressed, I would find it impossible to support the tribunal approach.  As soon as a way is found to ensure the United States gets a fair trial and to ensure compliance of South and Central American countries with any findings by the tribunal, I think we can go ahead with this approach and justice for all can finally be achieved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should set up a tribunal of some sort to try all American actions in South and Central America.  Anyone who feels they have a claim against America can register a complaint and the cases can be tried individually on a case by case basis.  Also, the Americans can bring cases against folks from South and Central Aemrica who have wronged it.  I could turn out that most if not all of American actions within the region are/were fully justified.  Perhaps not.  In any even, it seems unlikely that these things happen in a vacum.  </p>
<p>The main problems I see with the tribunal approach is two fold.  1.) Its hard to imagine a scenario where Aemrica or its government can get a fair trial.  As it stands right now, this court would simply be a kangaroo court designed to try and convict the American government or its officials.  2.) If the court finds that the United States owes reparations to one or more Central or South American countries the Americans would have no choice but to live up to these obligations even if they wanted to not live up to them.  Media scrutiny on the United States and its government is always intense.  As such, the United States would have no choice but honor the terms decided by the court.  Countires in South and Central Aemrica do not face the kind of scrutiny that the United States faces.  As such, it is unlikely there would be any mechanism in place to ensure their compliance with any obligations the court may impose on them.  </p>
<p>Until these issues are addressed, I would find it impossible to support the tribunal approach.  As soon as a way is found to ensure the United States gets a fair trial and to ensure compliance of South and Central American countries with any findings by the tribunal, I think we can go ahead with this approach and justice for all can finally be achieved.</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a positive note, if Texas DOES secede, the Marxists will have to drive about 12 more hours before they reach Kansas. This should give us the extra time we need to mobilize air power!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a positive note, if Texas DOES secede, the Marxists will have to drive about 12 more hours before they reach Kansas. This should give us the extra time we need to mobilize air power!!</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anybody here have an idea what the U.S. government's interests are in Nicaragua?

I remember Ronald Reagan's speech explaining that Sandinista rebels were two days drive from Texas. Maybe this is just about national security? 

Are we ready?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody here have an idea what the U.S. government&#8217;s interests are in Nicaragua?</p>
<p>I remember Ronald Reagan&#8217;s speech explaining that Sandinista rebels were two days drive from Texas. Maybe this is just about national security? </p>
<p>Are we ready?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Stuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Stuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jackson1234.

I didn't see any of the things you were alleging for Nicaragua and Venezuela from the link you provided.

As for Bolivia, they are in the middle of civil strife over a new Constitution largely between the indigenous Morales government an the old guard opposition. The violence is primarily instigated by opposition to the new Constitution which does allow for nationalizing the mineral resources and free health care for all. I know that offends your right wing sensibilities, though it doesn't mine.

As for your allegations of election fraud here is what you said.

&lt;blockquote&gt;While Ortega and Chavez won quasi-democratic elections, they employed old school Marxist techniques to help achieve their victories. To an extent, the same applies to Morales in Bolivia. All of which is to say these leaders squelched as much speech as possible, threatened opposition leaders and parties, and possibly worse since people simply disppeared in some cases. I didn’t read anywhere that there was massive voter fraud but I might have missed it, hence, the “quasi-.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lost in translation is the fact I consider so called Marxist Techniques a form of "election fraud". And I still did not see any evidence of "Marxist Techniques" for this at AI for Nicaragua and Venezuela, except maybe from Bush's embassy in those countries with no evidence to support it. And Bolivia is in the middle of a quasi civil war with all sorts of shenanigins from both sides.

If I missed at AI what you were alleging, please let me know and where it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jackson1234.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see any of the things you were alleging for Nicaragua and Venezuela from the link you provided.</p>
<p>As for Bolivia, they are in the middle of civil strife over a new Constitution largely between the indigenous Morales government an the old guard opposition. The violence is primarily instigated by opposition to the new Constitution which does allow for nationalizing the mineral resources and free health care for all. I know that offends your right wing sensibilities, though it doesn&#8217;t mine.</p>
<p>As for your allegations of election fraud here is what you said.</p>
<blockquote><p>While Ortega and Chavez won quasi-democratic elections, they employed old school Marxist techniques to help achieve their victories. To an extent, the same applies to Morales in Bolivia. All of which is to say these leaders squelched as much speech as possible, threatened opposition leaders and parties, and possibly worse since people simply disppeared in some cases. I didn’t read anywhere that there was massive voter fraud but I might have missed it, hence, the “quasi-.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Lost in translation is the fact I consider so called Marxist Techniques a form of &#8220;election fraud&#8221;. And I still did not see any evidence of &#8220;Marxist Techniques&#8221; for this at AI for Nicaragua and Venezuela, except maybe from Bush&#8217;s embassy in those countries with no evidence to support it. And Bolivia is in the middle of a quasi civil war with all sorts of shenanigins from both sides.</p>
<p>If I missed at AI what you were alleging, please let me know and where it is.</p>
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