No - but Jack’s kill count is way, way down this year. A dozen and a half would be my guess. And with four episodes left, it will more than likely mean that Jack will end up with a smaller body count than at any time since I began keeping score.

I wish I had the time to write about it - I really do. Not to be, I guess.

ed.

It has come to this: conservatism now means having no sense of honor, of allying oneself morally with war criminals, with people we ourselves executed as war criminals. It means sinking to the level of our enemies and despising our laws, our treaties and our history.

You despise the American soldiers who refused to participate in this torture. You despise the FBI who refused to participate in this torture. You despise even those CIA agents who counseled against this torture. Instead you embrace the practices of the Japanese Imperial army, the Chinese communists and the Gestapo.

You should think long and hard about the line between “conservative” and “fascist.” People like you don’t protect me or anything else about this country. You are far more dangerous to this country, to its traditions, laws, constitution and moral standing than any of our current enemies.

We can withstand hits from terrorists. We would not survive people like you in positions of power.

If a person isn’t disfigured or killed as a result of the “techniques” it can not be that bad. Besides, governments will use “any means necessary” including “techniques” usually seen as as “cruel and unusual” to get information that is important and vital. Anybody that does not understand this simple truth is naive at best and a traitor at worst. I that about right?

Although the following clip is not about the use of “techniques”, it does illustrate the “by any means necessary” psychology.

See Jack Nicholson take Tom Cruise to school, but suffer as a result here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGvQtumNAY

And you call that torture?

I think we all understand that reagardless of what they say officially, and however they want to define torture, any and all governments will use whatever methods they deem appropriate to get information they think is vital to their cause.

Obama’s approval ratings have dropped like a rock over the past two months. He is only digging himself an earlier grave by bringing this up. It’s amature hour again. He and his crew haven’t got a clue how to handle power.

If only we can find a suitable opponent, he should be gone in 4.

I’ll have to return for my second course.

I wonder why his boss hadn’t done that before leaving office! Humility? Doubt it. Cheney has proven himself to be nothing more than a verbal vomitter [sic] with no moral integrity. Moreover, the issue is not about whether the information collected was directly resulted from the tortures but rather the legality of the techniques in its entirety. Unless you spout “whatever president does, it doesn’t make it illegal” argument. In that case, happy God-Wins law.

Elizho, Apparently you agree 100% with our former VP Cheney! This is exactly what he’s calling on President Obama to do. To declassify and release THIS part of the story. Good call!

We have the ability to refer to the torture with any euphemism we choose. Some prefer “enhanced interrogation”. I will simply refer to them as “techniques”.

The hand was well played by the Bush Administration when they made sure Congress was in on their dirty little secret. Congressional leaders were made aware of the “techniques”. In typical cowardly fashion, Congressional leaders said and did nothing upon finding out about the “techniques”.

It quickly became about C.Y.A. The Congress was engaged in C.Y.A. by not disclosing what they knew and not explicitly making the “techniques” illegal. The White House was engaged in C.Y.A. when they had their legal team give justifications for the use of “techniques”. The legal team in the White House was first and foremost interested in covering the @sses of the people in the White House. They needed to be protected in case the public found out about the “techniques”.

The preferred and proper way to legalize the “techniques” so that our patriot warriors are acting within the law is to, well, legalize them.

We could have called it the “Protect America from Extremists Act”. Both Houses of Congress pass a version. Differences are hammered out in conference. The President signs the bill into law. The law is signed at the White House using several dozen special pens used by other Presidents.

The “techniques” are now made legal. The patriot warriors are protected from prosecution. Everyone one involved from Congress members, to the patriot warriors, to the President and his council are protected because the process was transparent and sanctioned by the Constitution.

It is how it could have been done. It is how it should have been done.