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	<title>Comments on: DEBUNKING MYTHS ABOUT MODERATES: 1) MODERATES HAVE NO PRINCIPLES</title>
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		<title>By: fasd</title>
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		<dc:creator>fasd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Moderate Republican?
"I don't think a person with 'gay tendencies' is disqualified [from the Supreme Court]per say".       Jeff Sessions (R)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Moderate Republican?<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t think a person with &#8216;gay tendencies&#8217; is disqualified [from the Supreme Court]per say&#8221;.       Jeff Sessions (R)</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/05/05/debunking-myths-about-moderates-1-moderates-have-no-principles/comment-page-1/#comment-1760271</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 17:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and that tie? In Idaho, of all places. Maybe that'll flip back in 2010, maybe not. But the GOP Tent has shrunk to 2-man pup tent, and the crazies are busy trying to burn that to the ground...&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh" rel="nofollow"&gt;to their own profit.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and that tie? In Idaho, of all places. Maybe that&#8217;ll flip back in 2010, maybe not. But the GOP Tent has shrunk to 2-man pup tent, and the crazies are busy trying to burn that to the ground&#8230;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh" rel="nofollow">to their own profit.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dwight</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/05/05/debunking-myths-about-moderates-1-moderates-have-no-principles/comment-page-1/#comment-1760268</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The downside of this plan is that the number of imbeciles was underestimated .. speaks volumes about the state of education.&lt;/i&gt; 

... or your definition of "imbecile". ;) But hey, why not ask John Cornyn if he thinks if it is all just crazy talk? If the Club for Growth led purge continues unabated the Democratic Senate caucus might just manage to swell to the nearly unthinkable 67. The Democracts already hold the majority of Rep seats in 2/3s of the states (33 to 16, 1 tie). At the point of a 2/3's majority in the Senate they may start [i]unilaterally changing the rules of the Senate[/i].

Then who'll you call imbecilic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The downside of this plan is that the number of imbeciles was underestimated .. speaks volumes about the state of education.</i> </p>
<p>&#8230; or your definition of &#8220;imbecile&#8221;. <img src='http://rightwingnuthouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> But hey, why not ask John Cornyn if he thinks if it is all just crazy talk? If the Club for Growth led purge continues unabated the Democratic Senate caucus might just manage to swell to the nearly unthinkable 67. The Democracts already hold the majority of Rep seats in 2/3s of the states (33 to 16, 1 tie). At the point of a 2/3&#8217;s majority in the Senate they may start [i]unilaterally changing the rules of the Senate[/i].</p>
<p>Then who&#8217;ll you call imbecilic?</p>
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		<title>By: Neo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 13:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Arlen Specter is concerned, it’s not about driving “moderates” from the Republican Party, it’s about the secret plan to send all imbeciles to the Democratic Party.

The downside of this plan is that the number of imbeciles was underestimated .. speaks volumes about the state of education.

Meanwhile, Arlen Specter has shown that his “imbecile” status is well deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Arlen Specter is concerned, it’s not about driving “moderates” from the Republican Party, it’s about the secret plan to send all imbeciles to the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>The downside of this plan is that the number of imbeciles was underestimated .. speaks volumes about the state of education.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Arlen Specter has shown that his “imbecile” status is well deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: bsjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 06:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MORE NEWS FROM THE FRINGE:
Does the possibility exist that a homosexual could be qualified to sit on the Supreme Court?

Minority Whip John Thune (R) does not seem to think so.

http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/thune-gay-and-lesbian-jurists-need-not-apply.php

A bridge too far? or crazy bigoted bullsh!t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MORE NEWS FROM THE FRINGE:<br />
Does the possibility exist that a homosexual could be qualified to sit on the Supreme Court?</p>
<p>Minority Whip John Thune (R) does not seem to think so.</p>
<p><a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/thune-gay-and-lesbian-jurists-need-not-apply.php" rel="nofollow">http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/05/thune-gay-and-lesbian-jurists-need-not-apply.php</a></p>
<p>A bridge too far? or crazy bigoted bullsh!t?</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sal:

That is simply not true.  I'm a pro-choice Democrat, but I'm willing to outlaw almost all 3d trimester abortion.  And I'd like to minimize unwanted pregnancies, which would cut the number of abortions.  

You want it handled at the state level?  Really?  You want gay marriage, assisted suicide and marijuana legalization decided the same way? Maybe we'd have a compromise there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sal:</p>
<p>That is simply not true.  I&#8217;m a pro-choice Democrat, but I&#8217;m willing to outlaw almost all 3d trimester abortion.  And I&#8217;d like to minimize unwanted pregnancies, which would cut the number of abortions.  </p>
<p>You want it handled at the state level?  Really?  You want gay marriage, assisted suicide and marijuana legalization decided the same way? Maybe we&#8217;d have a compromise there.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the game-theoretic problem for political moderates.  If one side is open to compromise, and the other is not, the stubborn side wins.  Often, all it takes is the appearance of "listening" (and ignoring as far as policy goes).

This is also why dictatorships often out-negotiate democracies.  The dictator has no internal pressure to compromise, and often powerful incentives not to, while the democracy and its leaders really want "a deal" to make the problem "go away".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the game-theoretic problem for political moderates.  If one side is open to compromise, and the other is not, the stubborn side wins.  Often, all it takes is the appearance of &#8220;listening&#8221; (and ignoring as far as policy goes).</p>
<p>This is also why dictatorships often out-negotiate democracies.  The dictator has no internal pressure to compromise, and often powerful incentives not to, while the democracy and its leaders really want &#8220;a deal&#8221; to make the problem &#8220;go away&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 22:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have is that the Democrats do NOT want to compromise.  Where we end up is more towards their way of thinking because we DO try to compromise and work together.  For example, I am unabashedly pro-life. I would be happy to have the abortion question decided by the states, or to have some reasonable restrictions, but Democrats want unrestricted access to abortion, no questions asked.  Where is the compromise from their end?  If you compromise with those who have shown the consistent unwillingness to compromise, then all you do is slowly move the country in their direction.

The funny thing is that much of this talk of "there's no room for moderates in the GOP" comes from the Specter flap.  Specter is neither a moderate or a pragmatist, he is an opportunist.  He voted for the stimulus because he thought it would work out for him, but couldn't even answer basic questions about the bill when pressed.  Now that the vote has caused him trouble in his primary (and what's wrong with that, if the Republicans in PA don't want his representation any more?  Why do we have elections, then?) he switches parties for no other reason than he wants to get re-elected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have is that the Democrats do NOT want to compromise.  Where we end up is more towards their way of thinking because we DO try to compromise and work together.  For example, I am unabashedly pro-life. I would be happy to have the abortion question decided by the states, or to have some reasonable restrictions, but Democrats want unrestricted access to abortion, no questions asked.  Where is the compromise from their end?  If you compromise with those who have shown the consistent unwillingness to compromise, then all you do is slowly move the country in their direction.</p>
<p>The funny thing is that much of this talk of &#8220;there&#8217;s no room for moderates in the GOP&#8221; comes from the Specter flap.  Specter is neither a moderate or a pragmatist, he is an opportunist.  He voted for the stimulus because he thought it would work out for him, but couldn&#8217;t even answer basic questions about the bill when pressed.  Now that the vote has caused him trouble in his primary (and what&#8217;s wrong with that, if the Republicans in PA don&#8217;t want his representation any more?  Why do we have elections, then?) he switches parties for no other reason than he wants to get re-elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Foobarista</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foobarista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a difference between "sounding" reasonable and "being" reasonable.  Obama is surprisingly good at the former.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a difference between &#8220;sounding&#8221; reasonable and &#8220;being&#8221; reasonable.  Obama is surprisingly good at the former.</p>
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