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	<title>Comments on: FIRE STEELE AND BRAND THE RUMPS OF RNC COMMITTEEMEN</title>
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		<title>By: still liberal</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/05/14/fire-steele-and-brand-the-rumps-of-rnc-committeemen/comment-page-1/#comment-1760536</link>
		<dc:creator>still liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 12:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole notion of "rebranding" the opposition party is right out of the talk radio playbook, clearly demonstrating Rick's point about the far right influence in the Republican party. The few million that faithfully listen to Rush and the assorted faux Rushes see themselves as the true believers and everyone else as apostates. They are just not numerous enough to win elections anywhere. Unless and until Rush and his sycophants are marginalized and ignored, there is no use in trying to "fix" the GOP. True believers of any ilk eventually drive everyone else off with their demand for purity and are left talking to themselves while the world moves ahead pragmatically enough to accomplish what needs to get done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole notion of &#8220;rebranding&#8221; the opposition party is right out of the talk radio playbook, clearly demonstrating Rick&#8217;s point about the far right influence in the Republican party. The few million that faithfully listen to Rush and the assorted faux Rushes see themselves as the true believers and everyone else as apostates. They are just not numerous enough to win elections anywhere. Unless and until Rush and his sycophants are marginalized and ignored, there is no use in trying to &#8220;fix&#8221; the GOP. True believers of any ilk eventually drive everyone else off with their demand for purity and are left talking to themselves while the world moves ahead pragmatically enough to accomplish what needs to get done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 00:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>c3 said,

I think it's going toward political influence rather than political power. It's my theory that a large portion of the independent movement we see are libertarian-minded voters -- not necessarily people who understand the whole libertarian philosophy, but are fairly grounded in the principles of classic liberalism. Whether this creates the viability of a third party is questionable, but I foresee libertarian ideas limiting government and strengthening the private sector (charity organizations, private education, mail, etc.) in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>c3 said,</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s going toward political influence rather than political power. It&#8217;s my theory that a large portion of the independent movement we see are libertarian-minded voters &#8212; not necessarily people who understand the whole libertarian philosophy, but are fairly grounded in the principles of classic liberalism. Whether this creates the viability of a third party is questionable, but I foresee libertarian ideas limiting government and strengthening the private sector (charity organizations, private education, mail, etc.) in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: c3</title>
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		<dc:creator>c3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Libertarianism is the best alternative going&lt;/blockquote&gt; 
Yeah but where's it going?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike;</p>
<blockquote><p>Libertarianism is the best alternative going</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah but where&#8217;s it going?</p>
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		<title>By: Futures and Options</title>
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		<dc:creator>Futures and Options</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ready!  Set!  Lose!...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jesus H. Christ on a bike RNC, are you actively trying to make every conservative sound like a raving lunatic?  A resolution to &#8220;re-brand&#8221; the Democrats as the &#8220;Democrat Socialist Party&#8221; is worth convening a special session?  ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ready!  Set!  Lose!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jesus H. Christ on a bike RNC, are you actively trying to make every conservative sound like a raving lunatic?  A resolution to &#8220;re-brand&#8221; the Democrats as the &#8220;Democrat Socialist Party&#8221; is worth convening a special session?  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Can I have some of what you’re smoking?"

Can you expound on that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can I have some of what you’re smoking?&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you expound on that?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 16:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Farmer:

Can I have some of what you're smoking?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Farmer:</p>
<p>Can I have some of what you&#8217;re smoking?</p>
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		<title>By: Freedoms Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedoms Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You guys have an additional problem: you had the White House for the last 8 years. So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn’t advance them over the last 8 years.

You have to ditch the base."

Wrong. We either have to ditch the base of 40-50 million voters OR ditch Bush administration lackeys and allegiance to some unpopular Bush actions, like screwing up Iraq, amnesty for illegal aliens, spending too much, etc.

Seems like a fairly easy call to keep the base and throw the Bush administrations failings under the bus.

Ultimately, this is what the "Tea Party" activity was all about. The pro-freedom wing of the electorate established an independent resistance to the Obama agenda. Bush is history and if the Democrats are going to cluelessly try to run against Bush in 2010 they will get a well-deserved come-uppance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You guys have an additional problem: you had the White House for the last 8 years. So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn’t advance them over the last 8 years.</p>
<p>You have to ditch the base.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong. We either have to ditch the base of 40-50 million voters OR ditch Bush administration lackeys and allegiance to some unpopular Bush actions, like screwing up Iraq, amnesty for illegal aliens, spending too much, etc.</p>
<p>Seems like a fairly easy call to keep the base and throw the Bush administrations failings under the bus.</p>
<p>Ultimately, this is what the &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; activity was all about. The pro-freedom wing of the electorate established an independent resistance to the Obama agenda. Bush is history and if the Democrats are going to cluelessly try to run against Bush in 2010 they will get a well-deserved come-uppance.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Farmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"You guys have an additional problem: you had the White House for the last 8 years. So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn’t advance them over the last 8 years. 

You have to ditch the base. They’ve already lost on all their major issues anyway. They are a spent force. Look to the future."

The Democrats have a larger problem, now -- control of congress and the adminstration. I would also advise ditching your base before they ruin the country and the Democrat Party. The Democrats won because of independents, and swinging moderate Republican votes, but neither will stay with the Democrats if the radical left base completely obliterates an economy already damaged by the previous Republican president and Democrat controlled congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You guys have an additional problem: you had the White House for the last 8 years. So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn’t advance them over the last 8 years. </p>
<p>You have to ditch the base. They’ve already lost on all their major issues anyway. They are a spent force. Look to the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Democrats have a larger problem, now &#8212; control of congress and the adminstration. I would also advise ditching your base before they ruin the country and the Democrat Party. The Democrats won because of independents, and swinging moderate Republican votes, but neither will stay with the Democrats if the radical left base completely obliterates an economy already damaged by the previous Republican president and Democrat controlled congress.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys have an additional problem:  you had the White House for the last 8 years.  So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn't advance them over the last 8 years.  

You have to ditch the base.  They've already lost on all their major issues anyway. They are a spent force.  Look to the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have an additional problem:  you had the White House for the last 8 years.  So ideas you suddenly come up with now will beg the question as to why you didn&#8217;t advance them over the last 8 years.  </p>
<p>You have to ditch the base.  They&#8217;ve already lost on all their major issues anyway. They are a spent force.  Look to the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Monitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 05:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"MY POINT IS SIMPLE TO RICK MORAN: STOP THE CATCALLS AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE. JUST DO IT THE WAY YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE. TELL US HOW WE *SHOULD* CRITIQUE OBAMA, POSITION THE GOP, AND STAND FOR OUR BELIEFS."

I realize in some ways that this make Rick's point in that this advice fits the RNC as well: Instead of name-calling on Obama, tell us how it SHOULD BE DONE in terms of an agenda for America. That is, don't just critique Obama but give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM that provides an alternative agenda:
"Obama is wrong on socializing healthcare, here's is what is better ideas to keep choice and lower costs..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MY POINT IS SIMPLE TO RICK MORAN: STOP THE CATCALLS AND LEAD BY EXAMPLE. JUST DO IT THE WAY YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE. TELL US HOW WE *SHOULD* CRITIQUE OBAMA, POSITION THE GOP, AND STAND FOR OUR BELIEFS.&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize in some ways that this make Rick&#8217;s point in that this advice fits the RNC as well: Instead of name-calling on Obama, tell us how it SHOULD BE DONE in terms of an agenda for America. That is, don&#8217;t just critique Obama but give CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM that provides an alternative agenda:<br />
&#8220;Obama is wrong on socializing healthcare, here&#8217;s is what is better ideas to keep choice and lower costs&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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