That doesn’t make any sense. You’re telling me what it’s not, then you’re telling me what it is, while acknowledging that what you’re telling me it is, isn’t.

It was a conspiracy theory, okay?

Presuming that politicians aren’t so unbelievably dumb as to memorialize unethical or criminal activity in e-mails, phone records, and memos, then you are absolutely right.

Uh oh . . .

Ha, never. He’s never so obvious. What he will do is TAX cow farts until a Big Mac costs fifty bucks.

No, no, no. This never made sense, like so much else that gets internet Republicans all riled up. As for as conspiracy theories go, this is about as nonsensical and unimaginative as it gets. Oooo, Obama’s pinning down the Republican Chrysler dealers! The liberal master plan is coming along quite nicely now that we’ve deprived the Republican party of a few thousand dollars worth of campaign contributions! What’s next? Maybe Obama will personally oversee the persecution of Republican McDonald’s franchisees?

This is not a conspiracy theory. It is hardball politics played to the hilt - if it had been true. And taking out big GOP donors in key areas - millions of dollars worth of donations - is very imaginable - except to partisan idiots from the other side who think Obama craps marigolds and doesn’t need to wipe.

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These dealers got about 3 weeks. Think about that Stew. What exactly necessitated the rush? It seems that everything is an emergency nowadays. It is bullcrap and I would like you to explain what costs to Chrysler or you and I were being handed down by these dealers. The bankruptsy already voided the dealers’ ability to receive normal compensation for withdrawing their franchises. Why not let capitalism work a little here. Many of these guys were still profitable. Let the market work. They would have weeded themselves out and in the process would have been able to make entrepenurial decisions to change their operating models. You realize, don’t you, that for their loyalty these dealers will be stuck with hundreds of millions of dollars of inventory that as of June 9th will no longer be considered New car inventory under the handed down terms. Just another slap in the face to go along with the punch in the gut.

I’ve made my point enough about the trillion dollars wasted in stimulus. These guys never took a penny, nor asked for one. What they did need was time and a fair playing field and they got neither.

I have always felt that Obama would have been an idiot to have his hands all over these choices. But his team is running the show and once again has shown utter callousness to entrepenures and small businesses. We are now in an era of corporatism and elitism, but that is a topic Mr Moran can choose for himself to explore, or not.

Nice to hear those moderate creds, Stew. My question is, “Why no sympathy? You got a problem with compassion?” What evil did they do?

What, being a believer in Capitalism disqualifies me from being a moderate?
Seriously, those dealers were running an independent business affiliated with a corporation that had been in trouble for some time. (Didn’t Chrysler almost go broke 30 years ago? Shouldn’t that have been a warning?) They knew of the inherent risks this industry runs every year; certainly they should have noticed fewer big-3 brands on the roads every year over the past 5 decades. They took a bet that Chrysler would turn itself around and they lost.

Now, there may not be 100% transparency as to which dealers made the cut and which didn’t (this should be followed up on even if there is no political scandal), but its clear that a significant number of dealers were going to lose out in any case. Any deal that would allow these 789 dealers to stay in business or to be brought out at market value would involve a great amount of capital to to paid for by us taxpayers. Liquidation of the dealers is tough medicine, but in this case it is probably the best of the bad options available. While I have sympathy for the employees to soon be out of work and the dealers about to be bankrupt, I believe compassion should not spread to extraordinary actions to “save” a shrinking business model.

cdor, perhaps this does not sound like “moderate creds”, but I do lean in the direction of economic conservatism. When combined with a socially liberal stance on most issues, I think it evens me out as a political moderate. Hope this clears things up…

Nice to hear those moderate creds, Stew. My question is, “Why no sympathy? You got a problem with compassion?” What evil did they do?

Clown shoes.