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		<title>By: Simon Templar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Templar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe said, "So,Obama is incompetent, huh Rick?The same man that ran a presidential campaign that will be discussed in history books for it’s brilliance. But magically that all disappeared when he entered the White House. Sure it did. And if conservatives tell themselves that enough times, doesn’t that make it true? Are are you only trying to convince yourself?Because thats the sense I get. Yes, the poor waif Obama just got lucky to get elected, thats what it was Rick, he’s not really that smart.Right."
---- When did it become common and agreed fact that running a supposed great campaign was evidence, clear and substantial that a person is fit for leadership and governance? Yeah, Nixon, Carter, Clinton, etc. all ran great campaigns and were great talkers but great governors and leaders? You will get both sides of the aisles taking exception with that! Are conservatives saying that the obamasiah is stupid? NO, we know he is a very clever...he fooled a great number of people...it is time to give O's brilliance a rest and start opening your eyes to what he is doing..this is where, I am sure, we part..because you do not have a problem in the slightest with his New AmeriCCCa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe said, &#8220;So,Obama is incompetent, huh Rick?The same man that ran a presidential campaign that will be discussed in history books for it’s brilliance. But magically that all disappeared when he entered the White House. Sure it did. And if conservatives tell themselves that enough times, doesn’t that make it true? Are are you only trying to convince yourself?Because thats the sense I get. Yes, the poor waif Obama just got lucky to get elected, thats what it was Rick, he’s not really that smart.Right.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;- When did it become common and agreed fact that running a supposed great campaign was evidence, clear and substantial that a person is fit for leadership and governance? Yeah, Nixon, Carter, Clinton, etc. all ran great campaigns and were great talkers but great governors and leaders? You will get both sides of the aisles taking exception with that! Are conservatives saying that the obamasiah is stupid? NO, we know he is a very clever&#8230;he fooled a great number of people&#8230;it is time to give O&#8217;s brilliance a rest and start opening your eyes to what he is doing..this is where, I am sure, we part..because you do not have a problem in the slightest with his New AmeriCCCa.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most fiscal conservatives would support an agenda that included: 1)taking a very hard look at every government program and agency to reduce its budget responsibly; 2)to eliminate duplication and regulatory redundancies in government; 3)to plan and execute a greatly decreased spending agenda more fitting to our GNP and revenues; 4)to reduce the number of personnel in government accordingly in a humane manner, such as not replacing retirees in the sectors reduced; 5)to work to reduce the deficit and reach a balance in a responsible manner over time; 6)to align defense budgets with both long and short-term threats; and, 7)to stop nation-building efforts where possible, while living up to our commitments.

Most fiscal conservatives would go along with tax increases to pay down the debt and stabilize Social Security and Medicare, if they could be assured that the increased revenue would be spent for the purpose intended. 

The problem is, any increase today would most likely go to programs that have the effect of growing government greatly, and not to the economic stability we want. Universal health care, universal college education for all, subsidies and earmarks left and right, and little fiscal restraint or careful supervision is what we believe would take place. As Senator Grassley said, government agencies go over their
authorized limits in a heartbeat if they think they can get away with it. Those universals may be highly desirable, but not when we are serious debtors. Nations that have such benefits also have tax levels that are onerous: 60-70-80% at the high end plus VAT at 18-20% for everyone for everything purchased. 

The key is fiscal responsibility, and the current Congress and Administration leave us with zero faith and trust that they are acting responsibly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most fiscal conservatives would support an agenda that included: 1)taking a very hard look at every government program and agency to reduce its budget responsibly; 2)to eliminate duplication and regulatory redundancies in government; 3)to plan and execute a greatly decreased spending agenda more fitting to our GNP and revenues; 4)to reduce the number of personnel in government accordingly in a humane manner, such as not replacing retirees in the sectors reduced; 5)to work to reduce the deficit and reach a balance in a responsible manner over time; 6)to align defense budgets with both long and short-term threats; and, 7)to stop nation-building efforts where possible, while living up to our commitments.</p>
<p>Most fiscal conservatives would go along with tax increases to pay down the debt and stabilize Social Security and Medicare, if they could be assured that the increased revenue would be spent for the purpose intended. </p>
<p>The problem is, any increase today would most likely go to programs that have the effect of growing government greatly, and not to the economic stability we want. Universal health care, universal college education for all, subsidies and earmarks left and right, and little fiscal restraint or careful supervision is what we believe would take place. As Senator Grassley said, government agencies go over their<br />
authorized limits in a heartbeat if they think they can get away with it. Those universals may be highly desirable, but not when we are serious debtors. Nations that have such benefits also have tax levels that are onerous: 60-70-80% at the high end plus VAT at 18-20% for everyone for everything purchased. </p>
<p>The key is fiscal responsibility, and the current Congress and Administration leave us with zero faith and trust that they are acting responsibly.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah the concept of small government is just too difficult a concept to grasp.  It will make some people's heads explode, especially those who haven't bothered to read the Constitution and cannot grasp how few duties and responsibilities the government has.

Mandating light bulbs and toilet bowls are not among these duties.  But hey, is a crushing, titantic state that can regulate every facet of your life just what the founding fathers intended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the concept of small government is just too difficult a concept to grasp.  It will make some people&#8217;s heads explode, especially those who haven&#8217;t bothered to read the Constitution and cannot grasp how few duties and responsibilities the government has.</p>
<p>Mandating light bulbs and toilet bowls are not among these duties.  But hey, is a crushing, titantic state that can regulate every facet of your life just what the founding fathers intended.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems fair enough. Maybe cut only $32 billion out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems fair enough. Maybe cut only $32 billion out.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You can’t just yank $62 billion from education spending and believe kids, teachers, and schools wouldn’t be catastrophically affected.

Does that mean we can’t take a very sharp scalpel and start cutting? Absolutely not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You can’t just yank $62 billion from education spending and believe kids, teachers, and schools wouldn’t be catastrophically affected.</p>
<p>Does that mean we can’t take a very sharp scalpel and start cutting? Absolutely not.
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		<title>By: Maggie's Farm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie's Farm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ask the Wingnut...&lt;/strong&gt;

This observation from Rick Moran

Salon’s “Dear Abbey” for hilariously confused and clueless lefties who ask questions of Glenallen Walken about conservatism - “Dear Wingnut” - is one of the most entertaining things about that publication. ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ask the Wingnut&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This observation from Rick Moran</p>
<p>Salon’s “Dear Abbey” for hilariously confused and clueless lefties who ask questions of Glenallen Walken about conservatism - “Dear Wingnut” - is one of the most entertaining things about that publication. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are paying this incompetent amateur to GOVERN, not to go swanning around the world apologizing for our strength, our goodness and our well-earned standard of living.  We also are not paying him to go flitting off to NYC for a dinner date with his wife (they have excellent chefs at the White House) or to tie up already-dreadful D.C. traffic while he and Plugs go running out for a hamburger!  When he took office, I was hoping we were all wrong about him. Sadly, we were not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are paying this incompetent amateur to GOVERN, not to go swanning around the world apologizing for our strength, our goodness and our well-earned standard of living.  We also are not paying him to go flitting off to NYC for a dinner date with his wife (they have excellent chefs at the White House) or to tie up already-dreadful D.C. traffic while he and Plugs go running out for a hamburger!  When he took office, I was hoping we were all wrong about him. Sadly, we were not.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Tucson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Tucson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gayle Miller said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;How many days has he actually SPENT in D.C.? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Seriously Gayle? Are you really going to go there? Maybe look at your score card and let us know when he's been away from D.C. more than 1,020 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gayle Miller said:</p>
<blockquote><p>How many days has he actually SPENT in D.C.? </p></blockquote>
<p>Seriously Gayle? Are you really going to go there? Maybe look at your score card and let us know when he&#8217;s been away from D.C. more than 1,020 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Gayle Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gayle Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I HOPE the CHANGE stops really soon before Hugo Chavez Obama utterly destroys our nation!

Rick, I don't appreciate being insulted by you so blatantly! I made a very valid point that our president is STILL running for office instead of settling down to the hard work of governing.  Or to put it another way - he's still voting present!  Although he is doing it from every foreign locale he can find.  How many days has he actually SPENT in D.C.?  And when he is here - he's very fond of taking little field trips which screw up the commutes of little guys like me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I HOPE the CHANGE stops really soon before Hugo Chavez Obama utterly destroys our nation!</p>
<p>Rick, I don&#8217;t appreciate being insulted by you so blatantly! I made a very valid point that our president is STILL running for office instead of settling down to the hard work of governing.  Or to put it another way - he&#8217;s still voting present!  Although he is doing it from every foreign locale he can find.  How many days has he actually SPENT in D.C.?  And when he is here - he&#8217;s very fond of taking little field trips which screw up the commutes of little guys like me!</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael S:

&lt;i&gt;You lost what little credibility you might have ever had when you started using situations in California to try and justify the ‘Hope and Change’ we’re getting from the Obama Administration.&lt;/i&gt;

Perfectly understandable.  Except that I never did any such thing.  I think you have me confused with someone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael S:</p>
<p><i>You lost what little credibility you might have ever had when you started using situations in California to try and justify the ‘Hope and Change’ we’re getting from the Obama Administration.</i></p>
<p>Perfectly understandable.  Except that I never did any such thing.  I think you have me confused with someone else.</p>
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