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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: James H</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/06/12/only-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-1761387</link>
		<dc:creator>James H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lionheart:

Apology accepted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lionheart:</p>
<p>Apology accepted.</p>
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		<title>By: Commie Stooge</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/06/12/only-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-1761385</link>
		<dc:creator>Commie Stooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please call me when the Humanoids arrive.

For those who don't know what i'm referring to; the Humanoids were the creation of the late SF writer Jack Williamson.

The Humanoids were robotic creations designed to improve human life; and instead enslaved humanity with the best intentions.

For all the hyperbole in this post the sorry state of US health will be the same in ten years.

I just saw that clip of Rush blaming America's health crisis on all those folks who injure themselves while exercising.

Baloney, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please call me when the Humanoids arrive.</p>
<p>For those who don&#8217;t know what i&#8217;m referring to; the Humanoids were the creation of the late SF writer Jack Williamson.</p>
<p>The Humanoids were robotic creations designed to improve human life; and instead enslaved humanity with the best intentions.</p>
<p>For all the hyperbole in this post the sorry state of US health will be the same in ten years.</p>
<p>I just saw that clip of Rush blaming America&#8217;s health crisis on all those folks who injure themselves while exercising.</p>
<p>Baloney, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: lionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You know, sometimes I am such an asshole.  As soon as I hit the "submit comment" button, I realized that you were not being snarky, you were just suggesting I do a bit of research.  So I am nasty, after asking everybody to be nice to me concerning my ignorance.

I apologize for the tone of my last comment.  You did not deserve that, and I am a true asshole.

That's the best apology I can offer, and I do it here publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You know, sometimes I am such an asshole.  As soon as I hit the &#8220;submit comment&#8221; button, I realized that you were not being snarky, you were just suggesting I do a bit of research.  So I am nasty, after asking everybody to be nice to me concerning my ignorance.</p>
<p>I apologize for the tone of my last comment.  You did not deserve that, and I am a true asshole.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the best apology I can offer, and I do it here publicly.</p>
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		<title>By: lionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James H,

Thanks for that informative tip.  Boy did that shed light on the subject!  Wow... I am enlightened!  

By the way, its called the "commerce clause" not the "interstate commerce clause".

Of course, my comment specifically mentioned tobacco growing states, not INTERSTATE commerce.  While not being a constitutional scholar like you, I was well aware of the commerce clause, as well as the federal funding clause, as well as the forced participation clause:  I got all of that off Wikipedia.

And please don't quote anything you read on Wiki about Wikard vs. Filburn:  I've read it too.  FDR's liberal-packed Supreme Court had one of the best ass-reamings in the history of precedence in US vs. Lopez in 1995, which was described as "the most far reaching example of Commerce Clause authority over intrastate commerce".

The biggest mystery of all is Scalia's concurrence with the majority in Gonzales vs. Raich in 2005.  Rarely have Rehnquist and Thomas voted opposite of Scalia, and my tiny brain does not comprehend the logic that is usually so clear in Scalia's writings.

I think you've answered my question, James.  Thanks for all that information.  And thanks to you too, Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James H,</p>
<p>Thanks for that informative tip.  Boy did that shed light on the subject!  Wow&#8230; I am enlightened!  </p>
<p>By the way, its called the &#8220;commerce clause&#8221; not the &#8220;interstate commerce clause&#8221;.</p>
<p>Of course, my comment specifically mentioned tobacco growing states, not INTERSTATE commerce.  While not being a constitutional scholar like you, I was well aware of the commerce clause, as well as the federal funding clause, as well as the forced participation clause:  I got all of that off Wikipedia.</p>
<p>And please don&#8217;t quote anything you read on Wiki about Wikard vs. Filburn:  I&#8217;ve read it too.  FDR&#8217;s liberal-packed Supreme Court had one of the best ass-reamings in the history of precedence in US vs. Lopez in 1995, which was described as &#8220;the most far reaching example of Commerce Clause authority over intrastate commerce&#8221;.</p>
<p>The biggest mystery of all is Scalia&#8217;s concurrence with the majority in Gonzales vs. Raich in 2005.  Rarely have Rehnquist and Thomas voted opposite of Scalia, and my tiny brain does not comprehend the logic that is usually so clear in Scalia&#8217;s writings.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve answered my question, James.  Thanks for all that information.  And thanks to you too, Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: James H</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/06/12/only-the-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-1761378</link>
		<dc:creator>James H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lionheart -- start from Interstate Commerce clause and work your way from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lionheart &#8212; start from Interstate Commerce clause and work your way from there.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaia's Child</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaia's Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several studies have shown that smokers, on the average, cost the health care system less that non-smokers.  The studies are hard to find though.  Another thing that the anti-smoking zealots usually gloss over also is nursing home care.  Up to 80% of the patients in nursing homes are on Medicaid.  Medicaid is a health care cost.  My Dad, a non-smoker, spent the last two years of his life in a nursing home and we managed to keep him on private pay but it wasn't easy.  The administrator of the home told me that he was one of the few in the home on private pay.

A question I can't get answered is this:  For years we were told that a lot of children's asthma was caused by their parents smoking around them.  So we went from nearly 70% of the adults smoking to 20% of us smoking.  And children's asthma rates are going up, up, up.  Seems like they should be going down.

I know smoking is bad for the lungs.  I know it stinks.  I know it costs a lot.  I know that I loved it and I will miss it until the end of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several studies have shown that smokers, on the average, cost the health care system less that non-smokers.  The studies are hard to find though.  Another thing that the anti-smoking zealots usually gloss over also is nursing home care.  Up to 80% of the patients in nursing homes are on Medicaid.  Medicaid is a health care cost.  My Dad, a non-smoker, spent the last two years of his life in a nursing home and we managed to keep him on private pay but it wasn&#8217;t easy.  The administrator of the home told me that he was one of the few in the home on private pay.</p>
<p>A question I can&#8217;t get answered is this:  For years we were told that a lot of children&#8217;s asthma was caused by their parents smoking around them.  So we went from nearly 70% of the adults smoking to 20% of us smoking.  And children&#8217;s asthma rates are going up, up, up.  Seems like they should be going down.</p>
<p>I know smoking is bad for the lungs.  I know it stinks.  I know it costs a lot.  I know that I loved it and I will miss it until the end of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: KenGirard</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenGirard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Safety is something the government has been doing for some time now... like making all cars have seat belts, then making laws that say we have to wear them, and then installing airbags... Oh, and building codes, the FDA (Imagine what we'd be eating if there were no regulations. Only 6 insect legs per lb is the current limit.), OSHA, flame retardent PJs, etc.

Of course Missouri is showing the rest of the country that they are truely two faced on this issue. Big campain reminding us daily to wear a seat belt, millions spent, meanwhile the Gov. signs a law making it OK to not wear a helment on a motorcycle if you are over 20 years of age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safety is something the government has been doing for some time now&#8230; like making all cars have seat belts, then making laws that say we have to wear them, and then installing airbags&#8230; Oh, and building codes, the FDA (Imagine what we&#8217;d be eating if there were no regulations. Only 6 insect legs per lb is the current limit.), OSHA, flame retardent PJs, etc.</p>
<p>Of course Missouri is showing the rest of the country that they are truely two faced on this issue. Big campain reminding us daily to wear a seat belt, millions spent, meanwhile the Gov. signs a law making it OK to not wear a helment on a motorcycle if you are over 20 years of age.</p>
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		<title>By: lionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I willingly admit that I am daft on constitutional law.  But where in the constitution is the federal government granted the power to regulate consumable goods?  Alternatively, where in the constitution are the states forbidden that power?  

In the absence of either of these, doesn't the 10th amendment allow the tobacco growing states to tell the federal government to shove it up their ass?

Be nice, ye constitutional scholars... I'm just asking a question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I willingly admit that I am daft on constitutional law.  But where in the constitution is the federal government granted the power to regulate consumable goods?  Alternatively, where in the constitution are the states forbidden that power?  </p>
<p>In the absence of either of these, doesn&#8217;t the 10th amendment allow the tobacco growing states to tell the federal government to shove it up their ass?</p>
<p>Be nice, ye constitutional scholars&#8230; I&#8217;m just asking a question.</p>
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		<title>By: Wramblin' Wreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wramblin' Wreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon all the government will allow us to consume is raw vegetables.  No meat, no salt, no sugar.  Vegan cuisine washed down with lukewarm water.  Repeat 3x daily.

Truly not my idea of a lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon all the government will allow us to consume is raw vegetables.  No meat, no salt, no sugar.  Vegan cuisine washed down with lukewarm water.  Repeat 3x daily.</p>
<p>Truly not my idea of a lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Government command)Take two steps forward! 
(Me) May I?  
(Government answer)Yes.
(Me) But there is a cliff there!
(Government command) Do as I say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Government command)Take two steps forward!<br />
(Me) May I?<br />
(Government answer)Yes.<br />
(Me) But there is a cliff there!<br />
(Government command) Do as I say!</p>
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