Comments on: HEALTH CARE DEBATE IN CONGRESS: WHERE IS OBAMA?

By: Michael Giles

Michael Giles — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:14:37 +0000

Busboy33:
Here is the URL for the original Kaiser survey:
http://healthreform.kff.org/
Having read the actual report, I must say that I can find no support for the 89% figure quoted in the National Review article. Perhaps I overlooked it, perhaps they just have their figures wrong.

By: busboy33

busboy33 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:13:59 +0000

Link didn’t come through, but the quote you provided led me to the poll:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-10-15-health-poll1.htm

Interesting numbers. I’m not entirely comfortable that the poll represents what the quote implies, but an interesting poll nonetheless.

By: Michael Giles

Michael Giles — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:17:04 +0000

Sorry about the link. I tend to screw them up more often then not. In case the link still doesn’t work, here’s the URL to copy paste.

http://kudlow.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGE5OWFjYWU1OWNhOTMxNzAxYzQ1ZDFlMTdhN2QyNzU=

By: Michael Giles

Michael Giles — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:09:23 +0000

busboy33 said;
“Can you give me a link to that poll? I was under the understanding that more than 11% of Americans don’t have healthcare (or have limited healthcare), so that would mean that many Americans are happy without healthcare, and everybody that has healthcare are %100 satisfied with it.”

You’re making the mistake of assuming that lack of health insurance, equals lack of healthcare. Don’t confuse the two.

Here is the link to the poll.
“According to a recent ABC News/USA Today/Kaiser Family Foundation survey, 89 percent of Americans are satisfied with their health care.” Source

By: Michael Giles

Michael Giles — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:01:24 +0000

“Are there alot of those same people who are saying “Damn, if only McCain and Palin were in the White House all our troubles would be solved”? I haven’t heard any.”

That could be because people who voted for McCain and Palin tend to be those people that don’t believe that government (i.e., those people “in the White House”) is the answer to solving the majority of our troubles.

By: busboy33

busboy33 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:51:59 +0000

@Gayle Miller:

Are there alot of people who aren’t pleased with some/all of what Obama has done or hasn’t done? Sure.

Are there alot of those same people who are saying “Damn, if only McCain and Palin were in the White House all our troubles would be solved”? I haven’t heard any.

By: lionheart

lionheart — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:07:48 +0000

jharp:

Save his thunder for crunch time

What real leader does that? Can you imagine an athlete not producing his best effort, so he can be the hero at “crunch time”? Or a General not really trying to win a battle, so he can do better later? Furthermore, it doesn’t make sense, because his credibility is being eroded (see the recent Rasmussen poll on strongly approve versus strongly disapprove).

By: funny man

funny man — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:40:31 +0000

I’m a conservative and in my opinion you really underestimate Obama. That is a big mistake. Why should he get involved in the Health Care debate now? He’ll wait, look where the majority is, and then move. I guarantee you something will pass before years end. Next year it will be a watered down version of Cap and Trade and same with Immigration reform. At the end of the day Obama will have significantly changed the system and it won’t be what we like.

By: Gayle Miller

Gayle Miller — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:12:58 +0000

And I know a great many in that “overwhelming majority” who are currently rethinking their foolish vote! I work in D.C. and in this town, it is easy to hear the rumbles!

By: busboy33

busboy33 — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:02:49 +0000

“53% to 47% is hardly an ‘overwhelming majority’. ”

touche! Given recent elections, it certainly seems larger than it is, but you are correct.