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	<title>Comments on: OBAMA FAILS TO STAND UP FOR AMERICAN INTERESTS IN HONDURAS</title>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment to #11. It was not a premature "Coup", or a coup. The VERY DAY Zelaya was taken out of power, he was planning on dissolving the Congress. The poll he was taken was going to be used to set up a Constituent Assembly. The Constituent Assembly has complete power over all parts of the government, thus, Zelaya, was actually planning on giving the country a Coup, in his name, that very day, June 28th, when the army came in and took him off power. He had only published the real intent of the poll on June 27th, where it stated that the people would be voting to decide wether or not they wanted to set up a Constituent Assembly. This is the reason the army and Supreme Court had to act the way they did. It seems rash when seen from the outside, but Zelaya really didn't leave much of a choice. If they hand't acted, Honduras currently would be under the power of a Constituent Assembly set by him and in the power of reforming the Constitution to his and Hugo Chavez and the Castro's liking! But the current constitution in Honduras is so strict and so well written that it has 8 articles that can't be reformed, because the mere pretense of trying to reform one of them constitutes treason. And it clearly states that whoever tries to reform them immediately ceases to hold their title and will not be able to hold public office for the next 10 years. You can reform all other articles without a Constituent Assembly, so it is understood that if you want to form a Constituent Assembly it is for the sole reason of changing one of those 8 unchangeable articles. And that is the reason that Constitution has lasted as long as it has and no one has been able to become a dictator since. Please, write to the White House, Congress, let them know your concerns as US citizens! The USA should be defending Democracy and Freedom!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment to #11. It was not a premature &#8220;Coup&#8221;, or a coup. The VERY DAY Zelaya was taken out of power, he was planning on dissolving the Congress. The poll he was taken was going to be used to set up a Constituent Assembly. The Constituent Assembly has complete power over all parts of the government, thus, Zelaya, was actually planning on giving the country a Coup, in his name, that very day, June 28th, when the army came in and took him off power. He had only published the real intent of the poll on June 27th, where it stated that the people would be voting to decide wether or not they wanted to set up a Constituent Assembly. This is the reason the army and Supreme Court had to act the way they did. It seems rash when seen from the outside, but Zelaya really didn&#8217;t leave much of a choice. If they hand&#8217;t acted, Honduras currently would be under the power of a Constituent Assembly set by him and in the power of reforming the Constitution to his and Hugo Chavez and the Castro&#8217;s liking! But the current constitution in Honduras is so strict and so well written that it has 8 articles that can&#8217;t be reformed, because the mere pretense of trying to reform one of them constitutes treason. And it clearly states that whoever tries to reform them immediately ceases to hold their title and will not be able to hold public office for the next 10 years. You can reform all other articles without a Constituent Assembly, so it is understood that if you want to form a Constituent Assembly it is for the sole reason of changing one of those 8 unchangeable articles. And that is the reason that Constitution has lasted as long as it has and no one has been able to become a dictator since. Please, write to the White House, Congress, let them know your concerns as US citizens! The USA should be defending Democracy and Freedom!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shape Shifter (Updated) &#124; Mosaic Media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shape Shifter (Updated) &#124; Mosaic Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him. Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him. Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UNRR</title>
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		<dc:creator>UNRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 6/30/2009, at &lt;a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Unreligious Right&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has been linked for the HOT5 Daily 6/30/2009, at <a href="http://unreligiousright.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">The Unreligious Right</a></p>
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		<title>By: Surabaya Stew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surabaya Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire role of Zelaya seems a little uncertain. I know he had been talking about running for  second term of office in defiance of the Hondurian Constitution, but had he actually started to carry out actions towards this end? Perhaps the Army acted too soon; had they waited until Zelaya had showed his anti-democratic credentials more strongly, they could have been rid of him for good. Coups are very serious business, and it is unclear that this one was absolutely needed at this time.

Now the dude has sympathy from all over Latin America. Could it be that Obama is tentatively supporting Zelaya finishing his term, so that we doesn't piss off our newly upset neighbors by supporting a pre-mature coup?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire role of Zelaya seems a little uncertain. I know he had been talking about running for  second term of office in defiance of the Hondurian Constitution, but had he actually started to carry out actions towards this end? Perhaps the Army acted too soon; had they waited until Zelaya had showed his anti-democratic credentials more strongly, they could have been rid of him for good. Coups are very serious business, and it is unclear that this one was absolutely needed at this time.</p>
<p>Now the dude has sympathy from all over Latin America. Could it be that Obama is tentatively supporting Zelaya finishing his term, so that we doesn&#8217;t piss off our newly upset neighbors by supporting a pre-mature coup?</p>
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		<title>By: Shape Shifter (Updated) &#171; The Pugnacious Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shape Shifter (Updated) &#171; The Pugnacious Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him. Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him. Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shape Shifter &#171; The Pugnacious Irishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shape Shifter &#171; The Pugnacious Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him.  Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] words, Zelaya was blatantly abusing his power, and this prompted the military to arrest him.  Rick Moran puts his finger on key questions: Further, the military was acting under the orders of the Honduran [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An excellent article, it really brings us up to speed on the events in Honduras.  Thanks for being there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent article, it really brings us up to speed on the events in Honduras.  Thanks for being there.</p>
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		<title>By: c3</title>
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		<dc:creator>c3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can certainly understand a desire to have a public stance that doesn't convey support of yet another Latin America coup (given our history.  And yes I understand its not a "coup") but this response seems to be counter to the "nuance" that Democrats are so proud of pursuing.  Is it not possible to express a simple "concern" about the process and then let it quietly go (and quietly give a sigh of relief)

I would be deeply disappointed if the Obama administration did no understand the problem of Chavez-lite governments throughout Latin America.

&lt;em&gt;Saw that spin coming out of the state dept. this morning. My point is that why care what other Latin American leftists think? Yes, we have an awful history with regards to over throwing governments. But as I have made the point previously, we also have a record of doing good as well - aid packages over the years totaling hundreds of billions in investment, food, shelter, medicine, and other basic needs. That story rarely gets told nor does our support for democrats over the last 25 years against communists. It's a mixed bag to be sure but it is one dimensional and untrue to say it's all bad.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can certainly understand a desire to have a public stance that doesn&#8217;t convey support of yet another Latin America coup (given our history.  And yes I understand its not a &#8220;coup&#8221;) but this response seems to be counter to the &#8220;nuance&#8221; that Democrats are so proud of pursuing.  Is it not possible to express a simple &#8220;concern&#8221; about the process and then let it quietly go (and quietly give a sigh of relief)</p>
<p>I would be deeply disappointed if the Obama administration did no understand the problem of Chavez-lite governments throughout Latin America.</p>
<p><em>Saw that spin coming out of the state dept. this morning. My point is that why care what other Latin American leftists think? Yes, we have an awful history with regards to over throwing governments. But as I have made the point previously, we also have a record of doing good as well - aid packages over the years totaling hundreds of billions in investment, food, shelter, medicine, and other basic needs. That story rarely gets told nor does our support for democrats over the last 25 years against communists. It&#8217;s a mixed bag to be sure but it is one dimensional and untrue to say it&#8217;s all bad.</p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Mark J. Goluskin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark J. Goluskin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO! Rick, you hit the nail on the head on this! Imagine if Al Gore ignored the supreme court and showed up on inaguration day and tried to become president in 2000? Or if the city of New Haven chose to ignore the supreme court ruling handed down today? The armed forces had to act. This Zelaya was trying to change the constitution to benefit HIMSELF! Just like President Piggy has done in Venezuela. This makes former president Carter look like a right-winger. President Obama should be ashamed of himself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO! Rick, you hit the nail on the head on this! Imagine if Al Gore ignored the supreme court and showed up on inaguration day and tried to become president in 2000? Or if the city of New Haven chose to ignore the supreme court ruling handed down today? The armed forces had to act. This Zelaya was trying to change the constitution to benefit HIMSELF! Just like President Piggy has done in Venezuela. This makes former president Carter look like a right-winger. President Obama should be ashamed of himself!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the fact that the media and the White House keep referring to it as a "coup" (as in an illegal act), when the Honduran military simply arrested the President and immediately handed off power to the Constitutional government, is revealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the fact that the media and the White House keep referring to it as a &#8220;coup&#8221; (as in an illegal act), when the Honduran military simply arrested the President and immediately handed off power to the Constitutional government, is revealing.</p>
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