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	<title>Comments on: MORE ON THE HONDURAN &#8216;MILITARY IMPEACHMENT&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: jc</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/06/30/more-on-the-honduran-military-impeachment/comment-page-1/#comment-1762077</link>
		<dc:creator>jc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to clarify: It was not a premature “Coup”, or a coup. The VERY DAY Zelaya was taken out of power, he was planning on dissolving the Congress. The poll he was taken was going to be used to set up a Constituent Assembly. The Constituent Assembly has complete power over all parts of the government, thus, Zelaya, was actually planning on giving the country a Coup, in his name, that very day, June 28th, when the army came in and took him off power. He had only published the real intent of the poll on June 27th, where it stated that the people would be voting to decide wether or not they wanted to set up a Constituent Assembly. This is the reason the army and Supreme Court had to act the way they did. It seems rash when seen from the outside, but Zelaya really didn’t leave much of a choice. If they hand’t acted, Honduras currently would be under the power of a Constituent Assembly set by him and in the power of reforming the Constitution to his and Hugo Chavez and the Castro’s liking! But the current constitution in Honduras is so strict and so well written that it has 8 articles that can’t be reformed, because the mere pretense of trying to reform one of them constitutes treason. And it clearly states that whoever tries to reform them immediately ceases to hold their title and will not be able to hold public office for the next 10 years. You can reform all other articles without a Constituent Assembly, so it is understood that if you want to form a Constituent Assembly it is for the sole reason of changing one of those 8 unchangeable articles. And that is the reason that Constitution has lasted as long as it has and no one has been able to become a dictator since. Please, write to the White House, Congress, let them know your concerns as US citizens! The USA should be defending Democracy and Freedom!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to clarify: It was not a premature “Coup”, or a coup. The VERY DAY Zelaya was taken out of power, he was planning on dissolving the Congress. The poll he was taken was going to be used to set up a Constituent Assembly. The Constituent Assembly has complete power over all parts of the government, thus, Zelaya, was actually planning on giving the country a Coup, in his name, that very day, June 28th, when the army came in and took him off power. He had only published the real intent of the poll on June 27th, where it stated that the people would be voting to decide wether or not they wanted to set up a Constituent Assembly. This is the reason the army and Supreme Court had to act the way they did. It seems rash when seen from the outside, but Zelaya really didn’t leave much of a choice. If they hand’t acted, Honduras currently would be under the power of a Constituent Assembly set by him and in the power of reforming the Constitution to his and Hugo Chavez and the Castro’s liking! But the current constitution in Honduras is so strict and so well written that it has 8 articles that can’t be reformed, because the mere pretense of trying to reform one of them constitutes treason. And it clearly states that whoever tries to reform them immediately ceases to hold their title and will not be able to hold public office for the next 10 years. You can reform all other articles without a Constituent Assembly, so it is understood that if you want to form a Constituent Assembly it is for the sole reason of changing one of those 8 unchangeable articles. And that is the reason that Constitution has lasted as long as it has and no one has been able to become a dictator since. Please, write to the White House, Congress, let them know your concerns as US citizens! The USA should be defending Democracy and Freedom!!</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a left leaner and I applaud the government of Honduras!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a left leaner and I applaud the government of Honduras!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Locomotive Breath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Locomotive Breath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"either is uninformed or it is appalling"

False dichotomy. Why can't it be both?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;either is uninformed or it is appalling&#8221;</p>
<p>False dichotomy. Why can&#8217;t it be both?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Wikipedia:"Edward Luttwak explains how a coup d’état and a pronunciamento are different; in the former, a military faction deposes the civilian government and assumes power, in the latter, the military depose the civil government and install another civil government."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia:&#8221;Edward Luttwak explains how a coup d’état and a pronunciamento are different; in the former, a military faction deposes the civilian government and assumes power, in the latter, the military depose the civil government and install another civil government.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Obama is trying to set the stage for his own "referendum" at the end of his term.  If he can make it sound legit in Honduras, why not here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Obama is trying to set the stage for his own &#8220;referendum&#8221; at the end of his term.  If he can make it sound legit in Honduras, why not here?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, make that "aren't"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, make that &#8220;aren&#8217;t&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Giles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Giles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;"This is the story not being told by the White House, the State Department, most of the mainstream press, and liberal blogs who have their panties in a twist and are close to apoplexy because Obama isn’t sending in the Marines to restore the Chavez stooge to power."&lt;/blockquote&gt; You obviously aren'
t familiar with the story of the "Life, Miracles and Martyrdom of Saint Salvador Allende".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;This is the story not being told by the White House, the State Department, most of the mainstream press, and liberal blogs who have their panties in a twist and are close to apoplexy because Obama isn’t sending in the Marines to restore the Chavez stooge to power.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p> You obviously aren&#8217;<br />
t familiar with the story of the &#8220;Life, Miracles and Martyrdom of Saint Salvador Allende&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Obama would side with Zelaya ... he's a fellow traveler. Nothing to see here, Obama has already shown what he thinks about Chavez, Ortega, and the like. Democrats in general are in love with Che and the CBC, following their recent visit to Cuba, are ready to forgive the Castro brothers for all their past transgressions. Read the HuffPo piece ... what a hack job. The only surprising thing was the vast majority of comments blasting Lovato for his utter lack of understanding of the situation. Then again, it was more than likely intentional incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Obama would side with Zelaya &#8230; he&#8217;s a fellow traveler. Nothing to see here, Obama has already shown what he thinks about Chavez, Ortega, and the like. Democrats in general are in love with Che and the CBC, following their recent visit to Cuba, are ready to forgive the Castro brothers for all their past transgressions. Read the HuffPo piece &#8230; what a hack job. The only surprising thing was the vast majority of comments blasting Lovato for his utter lack of understanding of the situation. Then again, it was more than likely intentional incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia and China have not disarmed and they don't necessarily do what the UN says on any given matter and yet most of the world pretty much likes them.  I don't see why it would be necessary for America to completely disarm for the world to like us more.  

As for the situation in Honduras while it is deplorable for any one to be supporting a Chavez stooge and the actions of the government seem to be quite correct in ousting Zeyala, the best approach for the American government would have been to completely stay out of this.  In other words, don't condemn the actions of the government nor praise it.  There is precious little we can do any way.

As to sending in the Marines to restore Zeyala, why should we?  Even if we wanted to our military is stretched thin right now and it is worn down from continuing operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere in Global War on Terrorism.  Hugo Chavez certainly has the means to send in forces to restore his man if he wants to.  His country is also closer making it easier logisitically.  Why should we do it when he is in a bettr position to actually do so.  

As to withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan, this sounds like an excellent idea.  Withdraw these troops to defensible positions along the US borders and develop more of our own oil and natural gas reserves.  These actions will give us greater marginal utility for our national defense needs than having troops in Iraq or Afghanistan likely ever could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia and China have not disarmed and they don&#8217;t necessarily do what the UN says on any given matter and yet most of the world pretty much likes them.  I don&#8217;t see why it would be necessary for America to completely disarm for the world to like us more.  </p>
<p>As for the situation in Honduras while it is deplorable for any one to be supporting a Chavez stooge and the actions of the government seem to be quite correct in ousting Zeyala, the best approach for the American government would have been to completely stay out of this.  In other words, don&#8217;t condemn the actions of the government nor praise it.  There is precious little we can do any way.</p>
<p>As to sending in the Marines to restore Zeyala, why should we?  Even if we wanted to our military is stretched thin right now and it is worn down from continuing operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere in Global War on Terrorism.  Hugo Chavez certainly has the means to send in forces to restore his man if he wants to.  His country is also closer making it easier logisitically.  Why should we do it when he is in a bettr position to actually do so.  </p>
<p>As to withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan, this sounds like an excellent idea.  Withdraw these troops to defensible positions along the US borders and develop more of our own oil and natural gas reserves.  These actions will give us greater marginal utility for our national defense needs than having troops in Iraq or Afghanistan likely ever could.</p>
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		<title>By: jackson1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>jackson1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shit, make that the "former."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit, make that the &#8220;former.&#8221;</p>
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