Obama’s spending is to prevent economic catastrophe. Bush’s spending to invade and occpuy a country that was no threat to us.”

Prevent economic catastrophe ?? Well, i thought that was the TARP funds were meant for - or atleast so i thought until they started using it for bailing out GM, and everything else that they wanted to control.

It is amazing for what passes off as “debate” and how assertive JHarp is in saying the catastrophe would have not been prevented but for stimulus bill to be passed ! What kind of catastrophe is it when the stimulus would not take any meaningful effect as neglible as it is until the middle of 2010 !

The TARP legislation was voted on when Bush was President -this was supposed to be the “catastrophe-saver”. Please know basic facts before getting into a debate.

And Bush was criticized AS MUCH for expanding Govt at levels not known since LBJ ( Medicare prescription, No child left behind, no cuts in any spending program) AS FOR invading Iraq - even when you rant against Bush, you dont seem to understand where he did the greater damage.

“Same way everyone in the history of the earth has. By increasing productivity.

Try thinking about it as a student loan.”

Increasing productivity by increasing the size and scope of Government - now that is a jaw dropper !

And your silly use of the word “teabagger” highlights your immaturity.

“You have to ask yourself this question - did you support the Bush Admn deficits ? If no, then why are you defending Obama’s deficits - just as you accuse the Tea Party movement of being partisan, are’nt you being partisan as well?”

No, I didn’t support the Bush deficits and yes I do support the Obama deficits.

Obama’s spending is to prevent economic catastrophe. Bush’s spending to invade and occpuy a country that was no threat to us.

“Is this the “change” you all “believed” in ? The argument that there was “no other choice” but to ramp up Government spending by monstrous levels shows an intellectual laziness and rank ignorance about fundamental economics.”

Yeah. It’s pretty much the “change” I expected though I felt the stimulus wasn’t enough and I wish he’d fight harder for a single payer health care system.

“How is that “no other choice but the giant boondoggle of a stimulus” working out ?”

Fair. And be patient. little of the stimulus money has been spent and we might need to increase the amount. You obviously don’t grasp the magnitude of the ruin Bush and the GOP have brought down on us.

“Well, dont worry it does not even start to have any positive effects until 2010. But there’s already talk of a second stimulus !”

bingo.

“How do you over come debt ?”

Same way everyone in the history of the earth has. By increasing productivity.

Try thinking about it as a student loan.

Its almost as if no one cared to read the rest of the post as soon as they realized that Rick changed his mind.

I admit that these people should have protested during Bush’s administration as well. But that complaint about being partial to Obama’s deficit alone misses the point - what Obama has done in the first six months to the deficit is staggering.

You have to ask yourself this question - did you support the Bush Admn deficits ? If no, then why are you defending Obama’s deficits - just as you accuse the Tea Party movement of being partisan, are’nt you being partisan as well?

Is this the “change” you all “believed” in ? The argument that there was “no other choice” but to ramp up Government spending by monstrous levels shows an intellectual laziness and rank ignorance about fundamental economics.

How is that “no other choice but the giant boondoggle of a stimulus” working out ? you know that bill that was 1000 pages long and passed in such a hurry so that unemployment is kept under 8 % ?? Well, dont worry it does not even start to have any positive effects until 2010. But there’s already talk of a second stimulus !

How do you over come debt ? Why, by piling on more and more debt I suppose !

National Health care “option”, Crap and Tax, Trillion dollar stimuluses that favor the various rent seekers of the Democrat party - enjoy it while it lasts.

The teabaggers need to quit whining about losing an election and just once try to offer constructive ideas.

Eight years of Republican governance shed light on two basic rules:

1) Never admit you were wrong about anything.

2) If you change your mind in light of new information you are a gigantic sniveling pussy intellectual who hates America.

What you’re suggesting is that Tea Party people help fix the problems that their programs and policies caused. Unfortunately though, this would violate rules 1 and 2 above and is therefore impossible.

This is unfortunate.

Obama cut taxes so the TEA, Taxed Enough Already, is nonsense.

Doubling of the deficit? Where were the teabaggers when George Bush did the same damn thing in a period of growth. Obama’s spending is a reaction to the worst economy since the depression. We had and have no choice.

You were right in your first position, Rick.

The teabaggers are a joke.

They are nothing more than “I hate Obama” rallies. The teabaggers need to quit whining about losing an election and just once try to offer constructive ideas.