Comments on: HEALTH CARE REFORM HEADING FOR DERAILMENT — EVEN IF IT PASSES

By: Commie Stooge

Commie Stooge — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:40:42 +0000

When the GOP controlled the White House; Senate; and House of Representatives; why didn’t they do something about health care?

No the GOP was all about the “ownership society”; and rolled over as the Financial companies were bankrupting the country.

Luckily I’ve never been refused coverage; but many have.

Something has to be done; and the GOP isn’t helping.

By: vigilocanis

vigilocanis — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:43:14 +0000

Top Ten Facts To Know About “Obamacare”

1. Those with insurance now will pay more than their present insurance plan

2. Those with no insurance will be paying the same

3. Illegal aliens who were not covered before, will noe be covered

4. Your doctor who is easily accessible to you, will be more difficult to see in the future, because of the 46,000,000 new patients with government insurance entering the system

5. You will share doctors’ waiting rooms with 46,000,000 new patients

6. There is no money to pay for it

7. If you love the “turtlebahn” and the Stimulus bill, you will love Obamacare

8. If you love the bailouts, you will love Obamacare

9. If you like standing in line at the post office, you will love standing in line at the doctor’s office

10. If you think that a new 1000 page federal bill that:

a) was written by Obama and has not been read by a single congressman,

b) proposes a new trillion dollar government Obamacare program

c) will insure 46,000,000 new patients, including 10,000,000 illegal aliens that cannot afford insurance now and must be obviously paid for by some one else

will NOT affect you (who is already having trouble paying for your own insurance, let alone pay for additional coverage for others):………… then you might need to see a Obamachiatrist.

By: the Game

the Game — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:57:14 +0000

Last two nights I have been out at bars with friends, mostly teachers, some conservative, most slightly liberals and one or two hard core liberals.
Both nights the topic of Obamacare came up and NO ONE…yes NO ONE defended it…even the hard core liberals jumped in.
One friend has a wife who does accounting for a hospital. She says anytime anyone comes to the hospital with govt health care (medicade or badgercare) the hospital loses money.
We are in a world of hurt people. This health care plan will end our countries way of operating and living as we know it.
The only people defending this are hard core liberals and very young people who have not learned anything about life yet.
The only people who even raised a question or two were a 23 and 25 year old girl. They just had no idea how bad it was because they are not that far removed from their super-liberal college experience.
Keep fighting conservatives, we need to save the country from Comrade Obama

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By: manoman

manoman — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:36:25 +0000

The same players are at the table as for the Medicare Part D monstrosity. No wonder the CBO grades the currently active proposals as not only increasing costs but increasing them at a higher rate.

Booby Jindal, Republican governor of Louisiana, had an op-ed in the WSJ this week outlining a reasonable alternative to our current system. Half the comments posted about the column denounced him personally, the other half denounced Democrats. A relative few addressed the merits of his proposal in a constructive way. No member of Congress that I am aware of has taken notice of the column.

Not that I would want to live under their system, but I am concerned that in 20 years it will be China, not the U.S., that will be the world leader. Two things about that. One, you can be sure they will not be spending 1/6 of their GDP on health care. The other is that it can only result from an abject failure of leadership in our democracy.

By: Surabaya Stew

Surabaya Stew — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:21:40 +0000

Perhaps Obama is acting like this because he doesn’t actually care how health care “gets fixed”, just as long as “something” is passed. It is my feeling that he simply doesn’t have a strong interest in the subject. Which is actually ok in my book; it would be unrealistic (and scary) if the president was 100% into every major legislation; (but of course it would be politically unwise for him to admit this!)

Judging from his presser last night, there’s no passion in him on the topic, aside from the fact that the current system costs us all too much. This could easily explain why he’s delegating the bill out to congress! Not that this is a bad thing; a bipartisan bill is probably the best solution anyway.

By: Anon

Anon — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:05:39 +0000

Once cannot lead by obfuscation. On health care, we’ll never know if Obama can “lead” or not because he isn’t trying to lead. He’s trying to pass a bill with onerous, objectionable provisions which the country cannot afford, and he’s trying to hide that reality in campaign-style rhetoric. It really isn’t all that difficult to shepherd a good bill through Congress, particularly with the majorities Obama has. But apparently, it’s quite difficult to ram a bad bill through when its shattering effects become known to voters. This isn’t an energy bill that may quadruple people’s electric bills, though that’s bad enough; this is a bill that will limit the health care all Americans receive, and likely cost them more than the health care they already have. How does he “lead” on that? There is nowhere to be led to, except a total collapse of the American health care system, so we get the presidential tap dance instead. He’s leading us over a cliff, but must pretend otherwise.

By: Freedoms Truth

Freedoms Truth — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:49:02 +0000

But there are many good ideas that haven’t even been examined because the liberals have a monumental distaste for the free market. Government cannot order costs to be lowered any more than King Canute could order the tide to recede.

Dead on target comment.

By: Wramblin' Wreck

Wramblin' Wreck — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:15:50 +0000

“…And there is a real possibility, no longer remote, that he will fail to bring any health care bill to a vote this year.”

So the country survives for one more year.

By: smitty

smitty — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:10:01 +0000

As I said, the bill is far from perfect

Splendid British understatement, sir.
The bill is conceptually abhorrent from anything like a federalist perspective.
Lock Congress in the building, and tell them no one gets out until they produce 10 pages in a legible font describing how the established, working pattern of the 401k will be expanded to cover medical treatments, absorbing Social Security en passant, and we’ll be making substantial improvement.

By: SShiell

SShiell — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:41:57 +0000

“The lack of leadership on this bill by the president has been astounding. While he has occasionally met with members at the White House, his efforts have fallen far short of whipping his reluctant party into line. He makes speeches. He holds town halls, He goes before his friends in the press.”

Obama has shown the world one thing in his 6+ months of office - he gives pretty good speeches, with the help of a teleprompter. Beyond that, he is an empty suit. I doubt seriously he could manage a lemonade stand without the help of either his wife or two small children. He definitely has never shown the ability to do anything in the past beyond promote his own ambitions. And as time goes by the world sees more and more of this - in essence he is voting “Present” on his current position as President.

Whatever health care program he is able to cobble together will be a shodow of what is needed and with this so-called victory in hand he and his minions will cry to the heavens how he saved us all from all of those evil doctors trying to steal our tonsils and give us red pills instead of blue ones (WTF???).

With that health care program in place, it will take the US 20 years to fix the abortion it will turn out to be. As was stated in another thread, this health care program will be a bandaid in place of the bandage that is needed.