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		<title>By: busboy33</title>
		<link>http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2009/07/25/a-few-rambling-thoughts-on-the-gates-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-1762689</link>
		<dc:creator>busboy33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doorhold:

I linked to the Mass. statute above for DC.  As I understand it, the police report indicates that the arrest was for yelling -- no indication that anybody was disturbed (except for Crowley).

"the officer was unable to deal with the offender in a manner that might defuse the situation and therefore HAD to arrest the offender to end the confrontation"

He could have left.  He had IDd gates as the homeowner.  He confirmed that there was no break-in.  The call was over.  He could have said "sorry for the confusion". gotten into his cruiser, and left.  That's what he's supposed to when he's finished. 

"The fact is you DON’T have the right to treat an officer investigating a possible crime as your own personal whipping boy for whatever issues you might have."

Actually, that's not true.  You have a right to be rude to a cop.  It's called freedom of speech.  It is rude, boorish, demeaning, and indicates that Gates is certainly quite an asshole . . . but its legal.
Crowley, in uniform, represents the government.  All citizens have a right to mouth off at the government.  Threaten?  No.  Insult?  Yes.  People can tell Obama to his face that he's a foreign-born, American-hating, Zebra Socialist that is the living incarnatino of pure evil.  That would be extremely dickish . . . but totally legal.

Think of the consequences otherwise.  What's "rude"?  Gates clearly was rude, but what about a more diluted situation?  You ask the cop that's giving you a speeding ticket if they ran out of donuts.  Rude?  A bit.  So they drag you out of your car and take you to jail.  Now, you're not being arrested for a crime . . . you're being arrested because the cop wanted some payback.  That is a VERY dangerous standard to allow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doorhold:</p>
<p>I linked to the Mass. statute above for DC.  As I understand it, the police report indicates that the arrest was for yelling &#8212; no indication that anybody was disturbed (except for Crowley).</p>
<p>&#8220;the officer was unable to deal with the offender in a manner that might defuse the situation and therefore HAD to arrest the offender to end the confrontation&#8221;</p>
<p>He could have left.  He had IDd gates as the homeowner.  He confirmed that there was no break-in.  The call was over.  He could have said &#8220;sorry for the confusion&#8221;. gotten into his cruiser, and left.  That&#8217;s what he&#8217;s supposed to when he&#8217;s finished. </p>
<p>&#8220;The fact is you DON’T have the right to treat an officer investigating a possible crime as your own personal whipping boy for whatever issues you might have.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s not true.  You have a right to be rude to a cop.  It&#8217;s called freedom of speech.  It is rude, boorish, demeaning, and indicates that Gates is certainly quite an asshole . . . but its legal.<br />
Crowley, in uniform, represents the government.  All citizens have a right to mouth off at the government.  Threaten?  No.  Insult?  Yes.  People can tell Obama to his face that he&#8217;s a foreign-born, American-hating, Zebra Socialist that is the living incarnatino of pure evil.  That would be extremely dickish . . . but totally legal.</p>
<p>Think of the consequences otherwise.  What&#8217;s &#8220;rude&#8221;?  Gates clearly was rude, but what about a more diluted situation?  You ask the cop that&#8217;s giving you a speeding ticket if they ran out of donuts.  Rude?  A bit.  So they drag you out of your car and take you to jail.  Now, you&#8217;re not being arrested for a crime . . . you&#8217;re being arrested because the cop wanted some payback.  That is a VERY dangerous standard to allow.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS, sorry can't follow you, you probably had too much of Obama's Kool-Aid. I identify with conservative values and they include decency. Why don't you go to a black barber shop and start talking your talk there. It's so courageous to do your anonymous trolling under what, three pseudonyms. I'm impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS, sorry can&#8217;t follow you, you probably had too much of Obama&#8217;s Kool-Aid. I identify with conservative values and they include decency. Why don&#8217;t you go to a black barber shop and start talking your talk there. It&#8217;s so courageous to do your anonymous trolling under what, three pseudonyms. I&#8217;m impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cdor

Bulls-eye! Dead cops, eh..."negro"? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!

On a sadder note, the fun-guy has resorted to "I know you are but what am I?!?" 

Liberals...Crap; filibuster; insult/ rave and rant; walk out. Great formula...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cdor</p>
<p>Bulls-eye! Dead cops, eh&#8230;&#8221;negro&#8221;? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>On a sadder note, the fun-guy has resorted to &#8220;I know you are but what am I?!?&#8221; </p>
<p>Liberals&#8230;Crap; filibuster; insult/ rave and rant; walk out. Great formula&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cdor</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>funny man Said:
1:42 pm  

Cdor said:
Negro males equal 6&#38; of the population but kill LEO’s at a rate 61/2 times their percentage of population.
Choice of words

AND EXACTLY WHICH WORDS IN THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS YOU, OH RIGHTEOUS ONE? From my perspective, the fact that Law Enforcement Officers are being killed is offensive. 

(6&#38; is a typo that should have read 6%)</description>
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1:42 pm  </p>
<p>Cdor said:<br />
Negro males equal 6&amp; of the population but kill LEO’s at a rate 61/2 times their percentage of population.<br />
Choice of words</p>
<p>AND EXACTLY WHICH WORDS IN THAT STATEMENT OFFENDS YOU, OH RIGHTEOUS ONE? From my perspective, the fact that Law Enforcement Officers are being killed is offensive. </p>
<p>(6&amp; is a typo that should have read 6%)</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JS,
your ramblings sound straight out of the far left cookbook. Liberals like you indeed rock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JS,<br />
your ramblings sound straight out of the far left cookbook. Liberals like you indeed rock!</p>
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		<title>By: JS</title>
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		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals rock. They love to invoke "logic" and how others can't keep up with their profoundly intelligent conversations, etc. You know, things like this:

"...For the next 40 years or so — up to and including today, July 26, 2009 — only a substantial portion of whites continued to wish they could enslave, rape, beat, torture, sell and murder blacks..."

The author says that a SUBSTANTIAL portion (probably meant percentage? Who knows?) of Whites, TODAY, want slaves. Not just to own, but to beat too! And we're supposed to take him, and them, seriously? Toss in some name calling - always a favorite of Liberals - and presto! they actually think they win arguments. 

Another guy has decided what words White people can use, and has also developed the ability to read minds through the reading of said words. He knows what we reflect on! Spooky, huh? (Oops. I thing I just used a banned word. Shoot!) 

This incident was like a Little Golden Book of racism. It couldn't have been any simpler, and yet they perform incredible (to them) mental gymnastics to twist the racism out of it. The first thing out of the mouth of a racist with a proven track record of being a racist, White hating, race hustler, is racist, and they see....Alpha males! Awesome!

Anyway, I have to go beat some of my slaves. Ah, WTH, I'm feelin real good today. I'll beat them all!

What retards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals rock. They love to invoke &#8220;logic&#8221; and how others can&#8217;t keep up with their profoundly intelligent conversations, etc. You know, things like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;For the next 40 years or so — up to and including today, July 26, 2009 — only a substantial portion of whites continued to wish they could enslave, rape, beat, torture, sell and murder blacks&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The author says that a SUBSTANTIAL portion (probably meant percentage? Who knows?) of Whites, TODAY, want slaves. Not just to own, but to beat too! And we&#8217;re supposed to take him, and them, seriously? Toss in some name calling - always a favorite of Liberals - and presto! they actually think they win arguments. </p>
<p>Another guy has decided what words White people can use, and has also developed the ability to read minds through the reading of said words. He knows what we reflect on! Spooky, huh? (Oops. I thing I just used a banned word. Shoot!) </p>
<p>This incident was like a Little Golden Book of racism. It couldn&#8217;t have been any simpler, and yet they perform incredible (to them) mental gymnastics to twist the racism out of it. The first thing out of the mouth of a racist with a proven track record of being a racist, White hating, race hustler, is racist, and they see&#8230;.Alpha males! Awesome!</p>
<p>Anyway, I have to go beat some of my slaves. Ah, WTH, I&#8217;m feelin real good today. I&#8217;ll beat them all!</p>
<p>What retards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cdor said:
Negro males equal 6&#38; of the population but kill LEO’s at a rate 61/2 times their percentage of population.
Choice of words</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cdor said:<br />
Negro males equal 6&amp; of the population but kill LEO’s at a rate 61/2 times their percentage of population.<br />
Choice of words</p>
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		<title>By: cdor</title>
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		<dc:creator>cdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52funny man Said:
12:04 pm  

cdor,
it’s obvious you and rssg,js and whatever other pseudonyms have a problem with other races. Being against certain aspects of PC doesn’t mean you going on calling people names. Michael Reynolds is a liberal and I’m a conservative so we disagree on the role of the government and taxes but not on treating other people with respect. I wasn’t even talking about this incident.

HUH?

funny guy Said: “look at the tone of #37 and you know he is racist.”

BUT IT IS OK TO CALL SOMEONE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW A RACIST

You may be a conservative (as am I) funny man, but this converstion makes me believe you are one strange dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52funny man Said:<br />
12:04 pm  </p>
<p>cdor,<br />
it’s obvious you and rssg,js and whatever other pseudonyms have a problem with other races. Being against certain aspects of PC doesn’t mean you going on calling people names. Michael Reynolds is a liberal and I’m a conservative so we disagree on the role of the government and taxes but not on treating other people with respect. I wasn’t even talking about this incident.</p>
<p>HUH?</p>
<p>funny guy Said: “look at the tone of #37 and you know he is racist.”</p>
<p>BUT IT IS OK TO CALL SOMEONE YOU DON&#8217;T EVEN KNOW A RACIST</p>
<p>You may be a conservative (as am I) funny man, but this converstion makes me believe you are one strange dude.</p>
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		<title>By: DoorHold</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoorHold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apoligies if this repeats what someone else has said, but I haven't noticed one particular issue being raised. That is, the qualifications for what constitutes "disorderly conduct" depends on the witness. If a frail old lady is visibly upset over having witnessed a particular behavior, that could constitute disorderly conduct and might end with the arrest of the offender. If a POLICEMAN witnessess the same thing he may, because of his authority, experience and duties, be expected to deal with the situation in a manner that would not result in an arrest, if at all possible.

From what I've read I believe the officer was unable to deal with the offender in a manner that might defuse the situation and therefore HAD to arrest the offender to end the confrontation. Due to the officer's history of commendation and professionalism I tend to side with him on this (as has, as far as I know, every professional who's reviewed the case as presented).

The fact is you DON'T have the right to treat an officer investigating a possible crime as your own personal whipping boy for whatever issues you might have. Obviously many people don't know that, or are unwilling to accept it, or have were taught otherwise, or wind up getting overemotional "in the moment" and ignore it -- But it's still a fact.

Funny stuff: If you haven't seen Chris Rock's "How NOT to get your a** kicked by the police," search for it. He does imply there can be a racial component, but that's not the the jist of the clip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apoligies if this repeats what someone else has said, but I haven&#8217;t noticed one particular issue being raised. That is, the qualifications for what constitutes &#8220;disorderly conduct&#8221; depends on the witness. If a frail old lady is visibly upset over having witnessed a particular behavior, that could constitute disorderly conduct and might end with the arrest of the offender. If a POLICEMAN witnessess the same thing he may, because of his authority, experience and duties, be expected to deal with the situation in a manner that would not result in an arrest, if at all possible.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read I believe the officer was unable to deal with the offender in a manner that might defuse the situation and therefore HAD to arrest the offender to end the confrontation. Due to the officer&#8217;s history of commendation and professionalism I tend to side with him on this (as has, as far as I know, every professional who&#8217;s reviewed the case as presented).</p>
<p>The fact is you DON&#8217;T have the right to treat an officer investigating a possible crime as your own personal whipping boy for whatever issues you might have. Obviously many people don&#8217;t know that, or are unwilling to accept it, or have were taught otherwise, or wind up getting overemotional &#8220;in the moment&#8221; and ignore it &#8212; But it&#8217;s still a fact.</p>
<p>Funny stuff: If you haven&#8217;t seen Chris Rock&#8217;s &#8220;How NOT to get your a** kicked by the police,&#8221; search for it. He does imply there can be a racial component, but that&#8217;s not the the jist of the clip.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cdor,
it's obvious you and rssg,js and whatever other pseudonyms have a problem with other races. Being against certain aspects of PC doesn't mean you going on calling people names. Michael Reynolds is a liberal and I'm a conservative so we disagree on the role of the government and taxes but not on treating other people with respect. I wasn't even talking about this incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cdor,<br />
it&#8217;s obvious you and rssg,js and whatever other pseudonyms have a problem with other races. Being against certain aspects of PC doesn&#8217;t mean you going on calling people names. Michael Reynolds is a liberal and I&#8217;m a conservative so we disagree on the role of the government and taxes but not on treating other people with respect. I wasn&#8217;t even talking about this incident.</p>
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