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	<title>Comments on: JUST LIKE THE BIRTHERS ONLY WORSE: LIBERAL CONSPIRACIES ABOUT HEALTH CARE REFORM</title>
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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Aren’t Americans Allowed To Know What Foreign Passports Were Issued To President Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Aren’t Americans Allowed To Know What Foreign Passports Were Issued To President Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark in Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark in Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am quite willing to believe there is no right-wing conspiracy to shout down discussion at Town Meetings. Fox News can galvanize the "over-Foxed" easily, and no overt organization is needed. However, I have learned over the years just how sneaky and low neo-cons and their type are, and I think they are capable of anything. I think they are misguided, but sincere. 

However, regardless of the bent you put on this topic, the real topic should be having 47,000,000 uninsured Americans, and probably another 50-100,000,000 underinsured. This IS a national crisis and threat to our economic security. Not wanting to cover those people is evil and selfish, in my humble opinion. 

So stop being such retards and shut up. Please. Let's try to cooperate and work out the details on this. You know, one day before age 65 you might actually need that kind of coverage. Of course, if you really object to Federally managed healthcare, do not use Medicare when you reach 65. That's your choice, baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am quite willing to believe there is no right-wing conspiracy to shout down discussion at Town Meetings. Fox News can galvanize the &#8220;over-Foxed&#8221; easily, and no overt organization is needed. However, I have learned over the years just how sneaky and low neo-cons and their type are, and I think they are capable of anything. I think they are misguided, but sincere. </p>
<p>However, regardless of the bent you put on this topic, the real topic should be having 47,000,000 uninsured Americans, and probably another 50-100,000,000 underinsured. This IS a national crisis and threat to our economic security. Not wanting to cover those people is evil and selfish, in my humble opinion. </p>
<p>So stop being such retards and shut up. Please. Let&#8217;s try to cooperate and work out the details on this. You know, one day before age 65 you might actually need that kind of coverage. Of course, if you really object to Federally managed healthcare, do not use Medicare when you reach 65. That&#8217;s your choice, baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Bald Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bald Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently 'astroturfing' by the right is so evil that it warrants these reasonable responses - people who oppose ObamaCare are:

(1) Racist: http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=48163
(2) Terrorists: http://minx.cc/?post=290648
(3) Need to be opposed by strong-arm tactics and unions: http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/06/seiu-and-the-persuasion-of-power/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently &#8216;astroturfing&#8217; by the right is so evil that it warrants these reasonable responses - people who oppose ObamaCare are:</p>
<p>(1) Racist: <a href="http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=48163" rel="nofollow">http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=48163</a><br />
(2) Terrorists: <a href="http://minx.cc/?post=290648" rel="nofollow">http://minx.cc/?post=290648</a><br />
(3) Need to be opposed by strong-arm tactics and unions: <a href="http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/06/seiu-and-the-persuasion-of-power/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/06/seiu-and-the-persuasion-of-power/</a></p>
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		<title>By: CZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 14:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moran? Party of two? Mr. Moran...Your table is ready.

Outstanding essay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moran? Party of two? Mr. Moran&#8230;Your table is ready.</p>
<p>Outstanding essay.</p>
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		<title>By: BellWeather Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>BellWeather Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrapiron, it's over for you and your kind. 

What would you do without your hate.

Would you even exist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrapiron, it&#8217;s over for you and your kind. </p>
<p>What would you do without your hate.</p>
<p>Would you even exist?</p>
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		<title>By: bobwire</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attention everyone! As far as I can tell Rick Moran has NO health insurance.

Rick just say yes or no. I will not ask for a certificate nor ask if it comes from your wife's side or your parents. 

If you want to weigh in on health care reform, then let us know your basis.

Call me a proofer. Am I asking too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attention everyone! As far as I can tell Rick Moran has NO health insurance.</p>
<p>Rick just say yes or no. I will not ask for a certificate nor ask if it comes from your wife&#8217;s side or your parents. </p>
<p>If you want to weigh in on health care reform, then let us know your basis.</p>
<p>Call me a proofer. Am I asking too much?</p>
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		<title>By: Moltenorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moltenorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 02:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Scrapiron,

We did make up the term "birther"...it's a code word for "sore loser."

Got hate?? Masturbate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scrapiron,</p>
<p>We did make up the term &#8220;birther&#8221;&#8230;it&#8217;s a code word for &#8220;sore loser.&#8221;</p>
<p>Got hate?? Masturbate.</p>
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		<title>By: Scrapiron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scrapiron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 01:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I think the author has a brain malfunction on 'birthers'. Get real it's a made up term that the democrats used to get your mind off the facts. Why is everything to do with President O'Dumbo hid from the public? Something stinks to high heaven in his background or he wouldn't hide it. If he was born in HI, show the paperwork. If the paperwork is correct then show the records of his financial ripoff of the American taxpayers which would make him a felon. I think he is the biggest liar and POS to ever enter the white house door, including visitors and janitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I think the author has a brain malfunction on &#8216;birthers&#8217;. Get real it&#8217;s a made up term that the democrats used to get your mind off the facts. Why is everything to do with President O&#8217;Dumbo hid from the public? Something stinks to high heaven in his background or he wouldn&#8217;t hide it. If he was born in HI, show the paperwork. If the paperwork is correct then show the records of his financial ripoff of the American taxpayers which would make him a felon. I think he is the biggest liar and POS to ever enter the white house door, including visitors and janitors.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Completely rational, and reasonable explanations for this outpouring of anger and activism are rejected by the left in favor of the elitist idea that ordinary citizens cannot think for themselves and must be told by lobbyists and corporate flaks to go out and demonstrate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well stated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick said:</p>
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Completely rational, and reasonable explanations for this outpouring of anger and activism are rejected by the left in favor of the elitist idea that ordinary citizens cannot think for themselves and must be told by lobbyists and corporate flaks to go out and demonstrate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well stated!</p>
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		<title>By: Bald Ninja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bald Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck,

"If the current private insurance system was adequate, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But, that system is designed to serve only itself (not necessarily by serving it’s clients either as one might argue, I have great experience with this).

There is a solution, and private health insurance isn’t it. That’s why they are fighting so hard and throwing so much money around. They’re scared because they suck and everyone knows it. Business that suck are destined to fail. It’s the American way."

You may know more of the inner workings of health insurance than I do but I'm not convinced that private health insurance isn't the way to go.  Does the way things work need to be re-worked? Sure - but I think an actual free market solution is the way to go.  The alternative to non-private health insurance is government health insurance and I've yet to see a company that made more in 'profit' than the government confiscated in taxes to try to 'offer' the same service.  Part of the problem, I believe, is that the Federal government has involved itself in so many issues that businesses twist the democratic process through corrupt politicians to get laws enacted in a way that benefits them.  I don't necessarily fault companies for this as the government is going to pass a law regulating them anyway so of course they will want a say in it....the point I'm trying to make is that while we have lots of 'private' insurance these private insurance companies are centered around a system of the governments creation.  We need a real free market in healthcare to reduce costs and generate real competition and expose insurance companies to the same consumer pressures that other industries face that tend to drive down costs and provide better service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>&#8220;If the current private insurance system was adequate, then we wouldn’t be having this discussion. But, that system is designed to serve only itself (not necessarily by serving it’s clients either as one might argue, I have great experience with this).</p>
<p>There is a solution, and private health insurance isn’t it. That’s why they are fighting so hard and throwing so much money around. They’re scared because they suck and everyone knows it. Business that suck are destined to fail. It’s the American way.&#8221;</p>
<p>You may know more of the inner workings of health insurance than I do but I&#8217;m not convinced that private health insurance isn&#8217;t the way to go.  Does the way things work need to be re-worked? Sure - but I think an actual free market solution is the way to go.  The alternative to non-private health insurance is government health insurance and I&#8217;ve yet to see a company that made more in &#8216;profit&#8217; than the government confiscated in taxes to try to &#8216;offer&#8217; the same service.  Part of the problem, I believe, is that the Federal government has involved itself in so many issues that businesses twist the democratic process through corrupt politicians to get laws enacted in a way that benefits them.  I don&#8217;t necessarily fault companies for this as the government is going to pass a law regulating them anyway so of course they will want a say in it&#8230;.the point I&#8217;m trying to make is that while we have lots of &#8216;private&#8217; insurance these private insurance companies are centered around a system of the governments creation.  We need a real free market in healthcare to reduce costs and generate real competition and expose insurance companies to the same consumer pressures that other industries face that tend to drive down costs and provide better service.</p>
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