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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait until Dec. 6 of this year and the 40th anniversary of Altamont. That was the death of the 60s (as well as poor Meredith Hunter), because the post-Woodstock hype had young liberals -- and even older WWII generation media people -- believing both the hype coming out of the Bethel concert about changing the world and also believing in their own righteousness and moral superiority that they could do the same type of peace, love and understanding concert anytime, anywhere.

Altamont was an attempt create the West Coast Woodstock while at the same time from a monetary standpoint, make a ton of cash by taking advantage of the hype from the August concert and give bands like the Stones who missed the first show their own "street cred" as being a voice of The Movement. All that came crashing back to reality with the stabbing death, which showed all the spin about the Boomers being some sort of higher form of human life as a generation, compared to their war-loving predecessors, was bogus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait until Dec. 6 of this year and the 40th anniversary of Altamont. That was the death of the 60s (as well as poor Meredith Hunter), because the post-Woodstock hype had young liberals &#8212; and even older WWII generation media people &#8212; believing both the hype coming out of the Bethel concert about changing the world and also believing in their own righteousness and moral superiority that they could do the same type of peace, love and understanding concert anytime, anywhere.</p>
<p>Altamont was an attempt create the West Coast Woodstock while at the same time from a monetary standpoint, make a ton of cash by taking advantage of the hype from the August concert and give bands like the Stones who missed the first show their own &#8220;street cred&#8221; as being a voice of The Movement. All that came crashing back to reality with the stabbing death, which showed all the spin about the Boomers being some sort of higher form of human life as a generation, compared to their war-loving predecessors, was bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry, your brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry, your brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the vitrol?  What bothers you so much about a rock concert?  A very big rock concert (unseen up to that point).  I think a lot of people imbued a Woodstock aura on the whole thing, but if you talk to anyone who was there, not everyone was stoned, naked, or out to change the world.  The only thing everyone had in common was that there were all wet.

You might say that, if there is a distinction in our generation (emphasis on our) it might be that we heeded the call of Kennedy and the Great Society programs to volunteer and give back.  Our parents participated (at church, with the Cub Scouts, or sports) but I think the emphasis was more on people you didn't know rather than family/church related efforts.

Bringing Manson into the disucssion was a wonderful red herring.

And as for the idea that others "still cling to their dream of brotherhood...." count me in.  I still believe in the ideas of another radical from about 2000 years ago who preached the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the vitrol?  What bothers you so much about a rock concert?  A very big rock concert (unseen up to that point).  I think a lot of people imbued a Woodstock aura on the whole thing, but if you talk to anyone who was there, not everyone was stoned, naked, or out to change the world.  The only thing everyone had in common was that there were all wet.</p>
<p>You might say that, if there is a distinction in our generation (emphasis on our) it might be that we heeded the call of Kennedy and the Great Society programs to volunteer and give back.  Our parents participated (at church, with the Cub Scouts, or sports) but I think the emphasis was more on people you didn&#8217;t know rather than family/church related efforts.</p>
<p>Bringing Manson into the disucssion was a wonderful red herring.</p>
<p>And as for the idea that others &#8220;still cling to their dream of brotherhood&#8230;.&#8221; count me in.  I still believe in the ideas of another radical from about 2000 years ago who preached the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: KingShamus</title>
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		<dc:creator>KingShamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...that despite anything for which they pat themselves on the back, the Woodstock generation was selfish, spoiled, bratty, and tending toward eruptions of emotionalism that they mistook for passion."

Nailed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;that despite anything for which they pat themselves on the back, the Woodstock generation was selfish, spoiled, bratty, and tending toward eruptions of emotionalism that they mistook for passion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nailed it.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woodstock meant much more to rightwingers than it ever did to the left.  For liberals it's a bit of nostalgia.  Whereas conservatives have been freaking out about it ever since.

We moved on.  It's the conservatives who are still stuck in the 60's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woodstock meant much more to rightwingers than it ever did to the left.  For liberals it&#8217;s a bit of nostalgia.  Whereas conservatives have been freaking out about it ever since.</p>
<p>We moved on.  It&#8217;s the conservatives who are still stuck in the 60&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 15:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that there was another event, around the same time period, that drew many times more people. They were of all socio-economic and racial backgrounds. 

They came they saw and they left with out making a mess and with out getting stoned. They brought there parents and children. They brought there own food. This is the real legacy of the sixty's. 

Everybody knows it but its significance in terms of a group event has been ignored. Except by at least one famous author (authoress?). 

I'll give a hint. It was in Florida.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that there was another event, around the same time period, that drew many times more people. They were of all socio-economic and racial backgrounds. </p>
<p>They came they saw and they left with out making a mess and with out getting stoned. They brought there parents and children. They brought there own food. This is the real legacy of the sixty&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Everybody knows it but its significance in terms of a group event has been ignored. Except by at least one famous author (authoress?). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give a hint. It was in Florida.</p>
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		<title>By: Postagoras</title>
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		<dc:creator>Postagoras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To keep the musical thread going... this is one of the most tone-deaf posts you've ever made.  I mean, OK, it was a rock concert.  It did not change history.

But it was one part of the culture of the times-  now, the folks who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not go to Woodstock, but they were part of the 60s nonetheless.  Woodstock didn't occur in a vacuum, and it has been used as a banner for many things that were happening in the 60s.  Did peace, love, and understanding break out all over the world after Woodstock?  Nope.

I guess you'd call that a fiasco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To keep the musical thread going&#8230; this is one of the most tone-deaf posts you&#8217;ve ever made.  I mean, OK, it was a rock concert.  It did not change history.</p>
<p>But it was one part of the culture of the times-  now, the folks who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not go to Woodstock, but they were part of the 60s nonetheless.  Woodstock didn&#8217;t occur in a vacuum, and it has been used as a banner for many things that were happening in the 60s.  Did peace, love, and understanding break out all over the world after Woodstock?  Nope.</p>
<p>I guess you&#8217;d call that a fiasco.</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm afraid I would never enjoy an event that involved mud, pup tents and porta-potties.

I'm all for pot, naked chicks and rock and roll. But if I'm going to stay overnight I really insist on room service, a minibar and up-market toiletries.  

So, in the modern day if you were to get, say, Green Day, Rancid, Hollywood Undead,  and Eminem to play at a Four Seasons I'd be all over that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid I would never enjoy an event that involved mud, pup tents and porta-potties.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for pot, naked chicks and rock and roll. But if I&#8217;m going to stay overnight I really insist on room service, a minibar and up-market toiletries.  </p>
<p>So, in the modern day if you were to get, say, Green Day, Rancid, Hollywood Undead,  and Eminem to play at a Four Seasons I&#8217;d be all over that.</p>
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		<title>By: funny man</title>
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		<dc:creator>funny man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd like to point out that the attendance of that concert goes past 5 million if you count the people who claim to have been there.
Anyway, even though I have never had much for the hippie thing I can imagine it must have been fun going there. Not necessarily being there but the journey not expecting big crowds and then they are everywhere. I do think it was a very memorable concert too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that the attendance of that concert goes past 5 million if you count the people who claim to have been there.<br />
Anyway, even though I have never had much for the hippie thing I can imagine it must have been fun going there. Not necessarily being there but the journey not expecting big crowds and then they are everywhere. I do think it was a very memorable concert too.</p>
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		<title>By: Moltenorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moltenorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick says:

"The generation that took Woodstock as an example of how 500,000 people could sit in a field, get stoned out of their minds, and not partake in any violent activity obviously had never been to an Indy 500 or Daytona." 

Neither the Indy or the Daytona 500 has ever come close to the attendance at Woodstock Rick.

You're a couple hundred thousand people shy.

A better comparison (without the stoners) would be the inauguration of President Obama, where well over a million non-violent people gathered in common emotion to celebrate a milestone in the fight for civil rights, and the restoration of America in the eyes of its people, and the people of the world.

Then Rick says:

"...where media myth making and their own hubris blinds them to the truth; that despite anything for which they pat themselves on the back, the Woodstock generation was selfish, spoiled, bratty, and tending toward eruptions of emotionalism that they mistook for passion."

Nice turn of a phrase Rick...you could easily substitute "Tea party town hall protesters" for "Woodstock generation" in that sentence and you'd be good to go..

I do get your point about the myth making that has taken place about Woodstock in the last 40 years, and your general disdain for the hippy ethos. But what you don't seem to get about Woodstock is that during those 3 days in 1969, the organizers and participants of that event knew that the only reason they were there was because of the music. 

It was just a kick-ass rock concert...One that attracted a whole lot more people than they had expected...nothing more.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;In terms of attendance, the Indy 500 is the largest single-day sporting event in the world. With 250,000 seats, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is the largest sports venue in the world. Annual attendance generally draws more than 400,000 spectators.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;And I fail to see any reasonable parallel with tea party protestors - especially since they don't claim to be morally superior to anyone - simply smarter.

ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The generation that took Woodstock as an example of how 500,000 people could sit in a field, get stoned out of their minds, and not partake in any violent activity obviously had never been to an Indy 500 or Daytona.&#8221; </p>
<p>Neither the Indy or the Daytona 500 has ever come close to the attendance at Woodstock Rick.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a couple hundred thousand people shy.</p>
<p>A better comparison (without the stoners) would be the inauguration of President Obama, where well over a million non-violent people gathered in common emotion to celebrate a milestone in the fight for civil rights, and the restoration of America in the eyes of its people, and the people of the world.</p>
<p>Then Rick says:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;where media myth making and their own hubris blinds them to the truth; that despite anything for which they pat themselves on the back, the Woodstock generation was selfish, spoiled, bratty, and tending toward eruptions of emotionalism that they mistook for passion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice turn of a phrase Rick&#8230;you could easily substitute &#8220;Tea party town hall protesters&#8221; for &#8220;Woodstock generation&#8221; in that sentence and you&#8217;d be good to go..</p>
<p>I do get your point about the myth making that has taken place about Woodstock in the last 40 years, and your general disdain for the hippy ethos. But what you don&#8217;t seem to get about Woodstock is that during those 3 days in 1969, the organizers and participants of that event knew that the only reason they were there was because of the music. </p>
<p>It was just a kick-ass rock concert&#8230;One that attracted a whole lot more people than they had expected&#8230;nothing more.</p>
<p><em><strong><em>In terms of attendance, the Indy 500 is the largest single-day sporting event in the world. With 250,000 seats, the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is the largest sports venue in the world. Annual attendance generally draws more than 400,000 spectators.</em> </strong></em></p>
<p><em>And I fail to see any reasonable parallel with tea party protestors - especially since they don&#8217;t claim to be morally superior to anyone - simply smarter.</p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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