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	<title>Comments on: WHEREVER JACKIE PAPER IS TODAY, HE IS WEEPING</title>
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	<description>Politics served up with a smile... And a stilletto.</description>
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		<title>By: Adam White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its all about a boy  and when he grows up he finally understands what is real and what is not real and i dont why people mix this song would drugs it has nothing to do would drugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its all about a boy  and when he grows up he finally understands what is real and what is not real and i dont why people mix this song would drugs it has nothing to do would drugs</p>
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		<title>By: Puff The Magic Basketball Diaries, By Henry Gibson &#171; Around The Sphere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puff The Magic Basketball Diaries, By Henry Gibson &#171; Around The Sphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rick Moran: As a musical group, Peter, Paul, and Mary were polished, professional, and chose their music with the utmost care. Their manager/producer, the legendary Milt Okun saw to that. With his keen ear and unfailing sense of a commercially viable package, Okun made Peter, Paul, and Mary into a hugely popular act whose success lasted almost a decade. Okun would go on to manage other iconic folk groups like The Chad Mitchell Trio, the Brothers Four, and John Denver. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rick Moran: As a musical group, Peter, Paul, and Mary were polished, professional, and chose their music with the utmost care. Their manager/producer, the legendary Milt Okun saw to that. With his keen ear and unfailing sense of a commercially viable package, Okun made Peter, Paul, and Mary into a hugely popular act whose success lasted almost a decade. Okun would go on to manage other iconic folk groups like The Chad Mitchell Trio, the Brothers Four, and John Denver. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Holland Shepard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Holland Shepard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jacky Paper,  The pirates Peter, Paul and Mary stole our song from 12 year old Michael Holland Shepard.  He even taught them how to sing our song.  Do you think the people will ever believe in truth or has the lie been carried to long.  Do you think its right to not give credit to the songwriter?  To not pay him?  Puff The Magic Dragon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jacky Paper,  The pirates Peter, Paul and Mary stole our song from 12 year old Michael Holland Shepard.  He even taught them how to sing our song.  Do you think the people will ever believe in truth or has the lie been carried to long.  Do you think its right to not give credit to the songwriter?  To not pay him?  Puff The Magic Dragon</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS SATURDAY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS SATURDAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] THE GOOD AND THE BAD OF OBAMA&#8217;S EURO-MISSILE DEFENSE PLAN MARS ROVER SPIRIT IN TROUBLE WHEREVER JACKIE PAPER IS TODAY, HE IS WEEPING RUSH AND RACE: THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY IT&#8217;S A SHAME DUELING HAS BEEN OUTLAWED THE RICK MORAN [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] THE GOOD AND THE BAD OF OBAMA&#8217;S EURO-MISSILE DEFENSE PLAN MARS ROVER SPIRIT IN TROUBLE WHEREVER JACKIE PAPER IS TODAY, HE IS WEEPING RUSH AND RACE: THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY IT&#8217;S A SHAME DUELING HAS BEEN OUTLAWED THE RICK MORAN [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Your Brother Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Your Brother Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Rick, Kingston Trio fans tend to come from all points on the political spectrum with a goodly share of classic, dyed-in-the-wool conservatives like yourself. Haven't noticed among them, though, many of the hard core nuts that occasionally drop by your place here - you know, the kind described in that old Chad Mitchell trio song about Goldwater - 

"Let's go back to the days when men were men
And start the First World War all over again..."

Another fine article, good light hand on the politics (and no, unlike the sainted Pete Seeger, PP&#38;M were way too commercial to be Marxists), and a fine evocation of the weight of music in our family's collective memory.

I personally always put on a gas mask before visiting your site, and your timely notice also prompted me to wear rain boots and a slicker, lest I slip on slaughtered liberals' blood.

&lt;em&gt;Been plowing through Sam Tannenhaus's interesting but flawed book "Death of Conservatism" and perhaps the most insightful theme he advances is that "movement" conservatism - "revanchists" he calls them - have thrown the rational right off the rails by acting most unconservatively. In this, I am agreement generally but have several major disagreements with his specifics.&lt;/em&gt;
&lt;em&gt;
The point is, I think to some degree, it is a generational thing. What I might term "Reagan conservatives" like Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, Bruce Bartlett, Martin Anderson, and most of what the revanchists see as the "elites," are fighting a losing battle to keep conservatism's feet on the ground with reasonable, yet powerful critiques of the liberalism of Barack Obama. &lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;They are far overshadowed by the hysterical, out of control, exaggerated screaming coming from the base. It is being driven by the pop conservatives in Talk Radio who pander, encourage, and ultimately, deliberately create an atmosphere of paranoia and fear, milking these emotions for ratings and money. They have so skewed the perception of what conservatism is all about that the disfavor both the politics and philosophy into which the right has fallen will take decades to overcome - if ever.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;I joke about lefty folkies, of course - more playing to stereotype than reality. But we are of a generation that perhaps learned valuable lessons about civic disagreements and how they can truly lead to bloodshed unless we all remember that we are Americans who love our country and wish only the best for it. If only we could all start from that premise, I think a lot of the ugliness in our politics would be muted and we could get down to the business of truly addressing some of the problems facing the country today.

ed.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Rick, Kingston Trio fans tend to come from all points on the political spectrum with a goodly share of classic, dyed-in-the-wool conservatives like yourself. Haven&#8217;t noticed among them, though, many of the hard core nuts that occasionally drop by your place here - you know, the kind described in that old Chad Mitchell trio song about Goldwater - </p>
<p>&#8220;Let&#8217;s go back to the days when men were men<br />
And start the First World War all over again&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Another fine article, good light hand on the politics (and no, unlike the sainted Pete Seeger, PP&amp;M were way too commercial to be Marxists), and a fine evocation of the weight of music in our family&#8217;s collective memory.</p>
<p>I personally always put on a gas mask before visiting your site, and your timely notice also prompted me to wear rain boots and a slicker, lest I slip on slaughtered liberals&#8217; blood.</p>
<p><em>Been plowing through Sam Tannenhaus&#8217;s interesting but flawed book &#8220;Death of Conservatism&#8221; and perhaps the most insightful theme he advances is that &#8220;movement&#8221; conservatism - &#8220;revanchists&#8221; he calls them - have thrown the rational right off the rails by acting most unconservatively. In this, I am agreement generally but have several major disagreements with his specifics.</em><br />
<em><br />
The point is, I think to some degree, it is a generational thing. What I might term &#8220;Reagan conservatives&#8221; like Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, Bruce Bartlett, Martin Anderson, and most of what the revanchists see as the &#8220;elites,&#8221; are fighting a losing battle to keep conservatism&#8217;s feet on the ground with reasonable, yet powerful critiques of the liberalism of Barack Obama. </em></p>
<p><em>They are far overshadowed by the hysterical, out of control, exaggerated screaming coming from the base. It is being driven by the pop conservatives in Talk Radio who pander, encourage, and ultimately, deliberately create an atmosphere of paranoia and fear, milking these emotions for ratings and money. They have so skewed the perception of what conservatism is all about that the disfavor both the politics and philosophy into which the right has fallen will take decades to overcome - if ever.</em></p>
<p><em>I joke about lefty folkies, of course - more playing to stereotype than reality. But we are of a generation that perhaps learned valuable lessons about civic disagreements and how they can truly lead to bloodshed unless we all remember that we are Americans who love our country and wish only the best for it. If only we could all start from that premise, I think a lot of the ugliness in our politics would be muted and we could get down to the business of truly addressing some of the problems facing the country today.</p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this. Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: Mary Travers Link Collection : Comments from Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Travers Link Collection : Comments from Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moran, a conservative blogger who is also an independent thinker and not always predictable, writes eloquently and movingly about his family&#8217;s love for folk music and what Mary Travers, a...: Mary Travers, Peter Yarrow, and Paul Stookey sang songs that posed questions about American [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kathy Kattenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Kattenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, thank you for a beautiful, moving piece. I feel the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, thank you for a beautiful, moving piece. I feel the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: MochaLite</title>
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		<dc:creator>MochaLite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A beautiful remembrance, Rick!   I was sad to see so little coverage of MT's death.  A truly wonderful voice!   Politics matter little in the face of such a talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A beautiful remembrance, Rick!   I was sad to see so little coverage of MT&#8217;s death.  A truly wonderful voice!   Politics matter little in the face of such a talent.</p>
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		<title>By: shoey</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel nostalgic about "Puff the Magic Dragon" too, but then i remind myself that these folks were marxist radicals intent on destroying my country and i don't feel so warm and fuzzy anymore, these days i look back on lot's of music and movies and i see the socialistic and marxist themes apparent in them and wonder how i never noticed them before. 

no sympathy for my enemy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel nostalgic about &#8220;Puff the Magic Dragon&#8221; too, but then i remind myself that these folks were marxist radicals intent on destroying my country and i don&#8217;t feel so warm and fuzzy anymore, these days i look back on lot&#8217;s of music and movies and i see the socialistic and marxist themes apparent in them and wonder how i never noticed them before. </p>
<p>no sympathy for my enemy</p>
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