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		<title>By: Richard bottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard bottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Seeing how well the Iraq occupation is going 6 years on out, and how much debt we’re in to the Chinese, such an attack would be sure to bankrupt us wether or not it succeeded.
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Which is why I don't think there's much of a chance that we can or will mount an invasion.

For those that do believe it necessary, who believe it is the fate of the world hanging in the balance how can this be any less than D-Day in commitment. All hand on deck with Jonah Goldberg and Glenn Beck leading the way.

Commit to stepping up to the plate is all I ask.</description>
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Seeing how well the Iraq occupation is going 6 years on out, and how much debt we’re in to the Chinese, such an attack would be sure to bankrupt us wether or not it succeeded.
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<p>Which is why I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much of a chance that we can or will mount an invasion.</p>
<p>For those that do believe it necessary, who believe it is the fate of the world hanging in the balance how can this be any less than D-Day in commitment. All hand on deck with Jonah Goldberg and Glenn Beck leading the way.</p>
<p>Commit to stepping up to the plate is all I ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Surabaya Stew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Surabaya Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Let’s see some real commitment then. Like if Iran gets the bomb all conservatives between 18-35 will offer to join the Army (or encourage their children to do so if they are too old) to swell its ranks sufficiently to go fight the war they seem to want.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good point Richard, but you are forgetting one more thing that prohibits us from going to war with Iran...MONEY! Even if an attack on Iran were successful, the only way to ensure that this would never happen again is to occupy the entire country. Seeing how well the Iraq occupation is going 6 years on out, and how much debt we're in to the Chinese, such an attack would be sure to bankrupt us wether or not it succeeded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Let’s see some real commitment then. Like if Iran gets the bomb all conservatives between 18-35 will offer to join the Army (or encourage their children to do so if they are too old) to swell its ranks sufficiently to go fight the war they seem to want.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good point Richard, but you are forgetting one more thing that prohibits us from going to war with Iran&#8230;MONEY! Even if an attack on Iran were successful, the only way to ensure that this would never happen again is to occupy the entire country. Seeing how well the Iraq occupation is going 6 years on out, and how much debt we&#8217;re in to the Chinese, such an attack would be sure to bankrupt us wether or not it succeeded.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard bottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard bottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
The Daily Beast's Michael Adler reports that the "steps to build confidence" announced today are more concrete than Obama revealed. &lt;a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-01/iran-nuke-deal-details/?cid=hp:mainpromo1" rel="nofollow"&gt;Iran has agreed to ship enriched uranium to Russia for processing, leaving it without enough to make a bomb.&lt;/a&gt;

President Obama’s statement about a confidence-building measure from Iran this afternoon left out the key detail: In a breakthrough agreement at talks in Geneva, Iran has agreed to send 1,200 kilograms of enriched uranium to Russia for further processing, two diplomats told the Daily Beast, noting this would mean Iran no longer has enough uranium to make a nuclear weapon.
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Did I miss something or is this not a big deal?</description>
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The Daily Beast&#8217;s Michael Adler reports that the &#8220;steps to build confidence&#8221; announced today are more concrete than Obama revealed. <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-01/iran-nuke-deal-details/?cid=hp:mainpromo1" rel="nofollow">Iran has agreed to ship enriched uranium to Russia for processing, leaving it without enough to make a bomb.</a></p>
<p>President Obama’s statement about a confidence-building measure from Iran this afternoon left out the key detail: In a breakthrough agreement at talks in Geneva, Iran has agreed to send 1,200 kilograms of enriched uranium to Russia for further processing, two diplomats told the Daily Beast, noting this would mean Iran no longer has enough uranium to make a nuclear weapon.
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<p>Did I miss something or is this not a big deal?</p>
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		<title>By: Drongo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drongo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Well, put yourself in Israel’s shoes. The President of Iran has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. He’s repeatedly denied that the Holocaust ever took place."

You're not a stupid man, you must know full well that he never said either of those things.

I'm not suggesting that he is anything other than an oppressive religious zealot, but there's no need to promote out and out lies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad/

&lt;em&gt;I suppose "wiped out from the map" is not quite the same as "wiped off the earth" but only a blithering idiot would make a case that there's an important difference.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;And please don't throw Juan Cole in my face. As numerous Farsi translators have pointed out, he is an ignoramus.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, put yourself in Israel’s shoes. The President of Iran has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. He’s repeatedly denied that the Holocaust ever took place.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a stupid man, you must know full well that he never said either of those things.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that he is anything other than an oppressive religious zealot, but there&#8217;s no need to promote out and out lies.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4527142.stm</a></p>
<p><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad/" rel="nofollow">http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/10/26/ahmadinejad/</a></p>
<p><em>I suppose &#8220;wiped out from the map&#8221; is not quite the same as &#8220;wiped off the earth&#8221; but only a blithering idiot would make a case that there&#8217;s an important difference.</em></p>
<p><em>And please don&#8217;t throw Juan Cole in my face. As numerous Farsi translators have pointed out, he is an ignoramus.</p>
<p>ed.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Richard bottoms</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard bottoms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
In any event, if/when Iran gets nukes the world will find out what nuclear tension really means. I believe it will make the first Cold War look all warm and fuzzy by comparison.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let's see some real commitment then. Like if Iran gets the bomb all conservatives between 18-35 will offer to join the Army (or encourage their children to do so if they are too old) to swell its ranks sufficiently to go fight the war they seem to want.

It's been all talk on the Iraq and Afghanistan front, now's the time to man up. Do it and I'll re-enlist myself if they'll have a 54 year old back.</description>
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In any event, if/when Iran gets nukes the world will find out what nuclear tension really means. I believe it will make the first Cold War look all warm and fuzzy by comparison.
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<p>Let&#8217;s see some real commitment then. Like if Iran gets the bomb all conservatives between 18-35 will offer to join the Army (or encourage their children to do so if they are too old) to swell its ranks sufficiently to go fight the war they seem to want.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been all talk on the Iraq and Afghanistan front, now&#8217;s the time to man up. Do it and I&#8217;ll re-enlist myself if they&#8217;ll have a 54 year old back.</p>
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		<title>By: JustIce</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustIce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I have to agree that a military strike against Iran would cause a world-wide disruption in oil shipments along with a vast upheaval of all things dependent upon the continued flow of oil.

So it seems we have no choice but to brace for a Nuclear war started by Iran. My expectations are that Iran will gain nuclear weapons capability. Strike and destroy Israel, and then be obliterated by the Israeli counterstrike, which will be launched moments after Iranian missles are detected in-bound.

This will, in turn, produce the results stated above, only this time, it will be "politically acceptable" to use military force against what remains of the Irainian government.

I am curious, though, as to why everyone seems to avoid talking about the Nuclear Elephant in the middle of the room. Israel already has nuclear weapons. If they really suspected that Iran has an would use nukes on them, why would they be hesistant to strike first with theirs? That would certainly end any possible Irainian counterstrike(And scare the bejeebers out of the rest of the Middle East). Don't misunderstand, I am not advocating that teh Israeli's attack Iran with nuclear weaplons, I am simply stating that when confronted by the problem presented by Iran. It would seem likethe obvious answer. Plus the Israeli's have been known to strike first, strike hard, and not apologize.

In any event, if/when Iran gets nukes the world will find out what nuclear tension really means. I believe it will make the first Cold War look all warm and fuzzy by comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I have to agree that a military strike against Iran would cause a world-wide disruption in oil shipments along with a vast upheaval of all things dependent upon the continued flow of oil.</p>
<p>So it seems we have no choice but to brace for a Nuclear war started by Iran. My expectations are that Iran will gain nuclear weapons capability. Strike and destroy Israel, and then be obliterated by the Israeli counterstrike, which will be launched moments after Iranian missles are detected in-bound.</p>
<p>This will, in turn, produce the results stated above, only this time, it will be &#8220;politically acceptable&#8221; to use military force against what remains of the Irainian government.</p>
<p>I am curious, though, as to why everyone seems to avoid talking about the Nuclear Elephant in the middle of the room. Israel already has nuclear weapons. If they really suspected that Iran has an would use nukes on them, why would they be hesistant to strike first with theirs? That would certainly end any possible Irainian counterstrike(And scare the bejeebers out of the rest of the Middle East). Don&#8217;t misunderstand, I am not advocating that teh Israeli&#8217;s attack Iran with nuclear weaplons, I am simply stating that when confronted by the problem presented by Iran. It would seem likethe obvious answer. Plus the Israeli&#8217;s have been known to strike first, strike hard, and not apologize.</p>
<p>In any event, if/when Iran gets nukes the world will find out what nuclear tension really means. I believe it will make the first Cold War look all warm and fuzzy by comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: CZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I'm certainly not very concerned about Iran anymore.

President Obama has everything under control and Secretary Clinton is doing such a fabulous job of international diplomacy there's no need to worry. The other countries all love us again and will stand by their dear old friend and ally.

Can't you just feel the new international love? The healing truly has begun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m certainly not very concerned about Iran anymore.</p>
<p>President Obama has everything under control and Secretary Clinton is doing such a fabulous job of international diplomacy there&#8217;s no need to worry. The other countries all love us again and will stand by their dear old friend and ally.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you just feel the new international love? The healing truly has begun.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a bankrupt declining power, it is a foregone conclusion that the U.S. will learn to accept all sorts of "facts." Thankfully, we are a therapeutic culture and can learn from tyrannical Middle Eastern Moslem nations, they have so much to teach us and will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a bankrupt declining power, it is a foregone conclusion that the U.S. will learn to accept all sorts of &#8220;facts.&#8221; Thankfully, we are a therapeutic culture and can learn from tyrannical Middle Eastern Moslem nations, they have so much to teach us and will.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have no leverage against Iran's building a nuke when Israel has loads and they aren't part of the NPT.  Actually, I think Iran will develop the capacity but not the actual weapon.  They're blustery, but Iran has not attacked another country in centuries.  Our "alliance" (joke--what do we get out of that, other than a coffer drain) with Israel is toxic to our interests, and if we ever actually brokered peace there, several of our problems would be helped if not solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have no leverage against Iran&#8217;s building a nuke when Israel has loads and they aren&#8217;t part of the NPT.  Actually, I think Iran will develop the capacity but not the actual weapon.  They&#8217;re blustery, but Iran has not attacked another country in centuries.  Our &#8220;alliance&#8221; (joke&#8211;what do we get out of that, other than a coffer drain) with Israel is toxic to our interests, and if we ever actually brokered peace there, several of our problems would be helped if not solved.</p>
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