Jesus Christ riding a pogo stick, what is it about Conservatives nowadays that only allows them to think in absolutes?

NOBODY advocating for health care reform claims it will make all of the problems of the world go away. The commenter never claimed that Rick, and you know it.

It WILL, however, help fix the problem of tens of millions of people unable to afford health care that they need. Pay very close attention Rick . . . I said “help fix”, not “completely wipe out without any consequences”. Will all Americans have all the healthcare that they need? Of course not. Will more have access to more? HELL YES. You focus on childish claims? How about “if its not an absolutely perfect solution than it is without merit”? Now that’s childish.

Of course there will be costs. Everything has costs. TANSTAAFL is just as inviolate a natural law as the law of gravity. But this problem isn’t going to get fixed with tax cuts, or allowing insurance monopolies to sell across state lines.

It would take a liberty-loving conservative with the hardest of hearts to not question their lock-step opposition to health-care reform after 12 hours in an ER and another 12 in an ICU.

Lemme know when you want to set this up. Just make sure you bring your own snacks.

40-some million Americans to go without health
insurance, many millions more to struggle with inadequate insurance and millions
more who lose their insurance because they have pre-existing conditions (like
wombs, if you happen to be a woman).

It is childish to believe this situation is going to get any better under National Health Care. All we are doing is substituting one set of problems for another - while some of the same problems will remain and get worse.

Childish, naive, self deluding - to believe this “reform” will create some kind of health care paradise where all problems are solved and nobody suffers as you seem to believe is madness. Your companion’s life will not get any easier nor will those she is caring for suffer any less. You and many liberals have already imbued the reform efforts with supernatural ability to “solve” our health care problems. When it fails to measure up to 1/10 of your expectations, will you be able to summon the intellectual honesty to work to reform it? Or will you simply keep spinning?

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Now to the Senate.

Good lord, if anyone ever needs an example of Republican idiocy on this topic it’s your comment comparing Romania and the United States.

That’s right: we’re going to become Romania.

Not France, Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, Japan, Canada or Australia. No, our future is Romania.

Yes. That makes perfect sense.

The only reason I can incorporate and thus — maybe — get insurance, is because government, in the form of the State of California, has mandated it by law.

And really, spare me the “little Google goes a long way” bullshit. My time is valuable. It’s more efficient for me to pay a lawyer than to give up work time. It’s money wasted whether it’s my time or a lawyer’s time, just as it would be wasted money whether I had to do the accounting or used my accountant.

The many groups you imagine will offer me insurance are baloney. They tend to offer policies with too low a cap to do me any good. A quarter mil cap isn’t going to do it if my wife gets Alzheimers.

And finally, yes, I understand that insurance companies are only doing what they do best: pursue profit at all costs. Which is precisely why I like the government getting involved. Because I don’t really want to trust my life or my kid’s lives to people whose only moral standard is self-interest.

The one person whose medical care I don’t have to worry about his my father: he is covered by the government in the form of the VA. The lousy socialist.

My wife’s grandmother was denied ambulance service for a broken hip based purely on age. They wouldn’t even take her to the hospital and told my in-laws to just light a candle and wait for her to die. That was in Romania, a government system that was end-stage. Fortunately, private ambulance services had been legalized by then and they just paid for her transport. They also paid for her hip prosthesis because the government hospital didn’t have the right plate to put in her hip. There was a pharma rep on the first floor and if you could pay for the plate, the government surgeon would put it in for you.

It took a long time for things to get that bad, 50 years. Just as I get to be an old, old man and really need my healthcare, the government system Obama/Pelosi/Reid want to put in place in the US is going to be falling apart. No thanks./