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	<title>Comments on: A RELATIVELY SHORT FOLLOWUP TO MY PJ MEDIA ARTICLE ON BI-PARTISANSHIP</title>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes two to tango. If one partner isn't with it you get stumblitis, not graceful, harmonious and pleasing airs over the floor. 

Do Democrats really know how to dance the tango?  (Tom Delay does!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes two to tango. If one partner isn&#8217;t with it you get stumblitis, not graceful, harmonious and pleasing airs over the floor. </p>
<p>Do Democrats really know how to dance the tango?  (Tom Delay does!)</p>
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		<title>By: MooseH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MooseH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyperlon
How about BDS rhetoric.
"Bush lied so that soldiers died"
"Cheney is a torturer"
Do you think that this is ignorant?
I agree- It needs to fall into disfavor IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperlon<br />
How about BDS rhetoric.<br />
&#8220;Bush lied so that soldiers died&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Cheney is a torturer&#8221;<br />
Do you think that this is ignorant?<br />
I agree- It needs to fall into disfavor IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: HyperIon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HyperIon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RM write: Are you stupid or do you hate America? I tend more toward stupid..

Me, too. Or maybe just ignorant and determined to stay that way.

But I strongly dislike the "do you hate America?" phrasing. When some folks disagree completely with my POV, I never think they hate their country. This usage was coined and made popular by the pro-war crowd, no? As such it is another attempt by the ignorant (or misguided) to discredit those who differ from them. It needs to fall into disfavor IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RM write: Are you stupid or do you hate America? I tend more toward stupid..</p>
<p>Me, too. Or maybe just ignorant and determined to stay that way.</p>
<p>But I strongly dislike the &#8220;do you hate America?&#8221; phrasing. When some folks disagree completely with my POV, I never think they hate their country. This usage was coined and made popular by the pro-war crowd, no? As such it is another attempt by the ignorant (or misguided) to discredit those who differ from them. It needs to fall into disfavor IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: RobM1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobM1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whose job is it to make everyone play nice?  Because whoever it is has been asleep at the switch for something like 200 years.  

There are quotes from Abraham Lincoln that bemoan the whole "why can't we all get along" thing.  

If you are waiting for Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid (or most other politicos) to ever, ever do anything other than secure more power for themselves, you really are out of touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whose job is it to make everyone play nice?  Because whoever it is has been asleep at the switch for something like 200 years.  </p>
<p>There are quotes from Abraham Lincoln that bemoan the whole &#8220;why can&#8217;t we all get along&#8221; thing.  </p>
<p>If you are waiting for Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid (or most other politicos) to ever, ever do anything other than secure more power for themselves, you really are out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: MooseH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MooseH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well R.M. your liberal friends at this site are beckoning you to join their party.  They are really not interested in  your trolling into the the abyss of shades of grey.Remember they are the originators of BDS - no shades of gray there.The time of  your contemplating your navel is drawing to an end.You have been asked many times to be specific in policies but you never respond.So man up.Republican or Democrat? Don't be afraid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well R.M. your liberal friends at this site are beckoning you to join their party.  They are really not interested in  your trolling into the the abyss of shades of grey.Remember they are the originators of BDS - no shades of gray there.The time of  your contemplating your navel is drawing to an end.You have been asked many times to be specific in policies but you never respond.So man up.Republican or Democrat? Don&#8217;t be afraid.</p>
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		<title>By: Gryphonskymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gryphonskymaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until we think as Americans, act as Americans, and hold responsibility of our country dear, this crap of Democratic v Republican and in ability to govern will continue. It is not diversity that made us great, it was assimilation to the freedom and liberty granted in America.

"The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." Cicero - 55 BC

So, what have we learned in 2,064 years? ... Not much apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until we think as Americans, act as Americans, and hold responsibility of our country dear, this crap of Democratic v Republican and in ability to govern will continue. It is not diversity that made us great, it was assimilation to the freedom and liberty granted in America.</p>
<p>&#8220;The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.&#8221; Cicero - 55 BC</p>
<p>So, what have we learned in 2,064 years? &#8230; Not much apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: A. B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frusrtation and bewilderment given his commitment to the USA and the ideals most of us share, rather than the shortsided, selfish, idiocracy that runs from the Right(Rush) to the Left(Pelosi).

Rick, I've not posted before, nor acknowledeged you. I've disagreed a lot with you in the past, and no matter what, I'm saying: Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frusrtation and bewilderment given his commitment to the USA and the ideals most of us share, rather than the shortsided, selfish, idiocracy that runs from the Right(Rush) to the Left(Pelosi).</p>
<p>Rick, I&#8217;ve not posted before, nor acknowledeged you. I&#8217;ve disagreed a lot with you in the past, and no matter what, I&#8217;m saying: Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 07:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Right, as embodied by the intellectually bankrupt and inherently corrupt Republican Party, is incapable these days of courage and risk taking. The expectation , from that quarter, would be that the risk of corporate entitlement reform would be on the shoulders of the Republicans and the Right Wing mouthpieces (as distinct from the true conservatives in the USA).

As some point, obamathered, you will confront the fact that your Republican Party is a fragile coalition of pandering publicity seekers, corporatist shills and pimps who use, abuse and discard the desperate, dedicated, selfless and idealistic. 

However, the Democratic Party is little different, being in service to some of the same paymasters as well as the ideological dupes of the post-modern, multicultural intelligensia.

I can (and will) say more about those who are NOT reacting mindlessly to the programming of the MSM, be it CNN, Washington Post, Fox or MSNBC. Kudos to Rick for speaking out with his</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Right, as embodied by the intellectually bankrupt and inherently corrupt Republican Party, is incapable these days of courage and risk taking. The expectation , from that quarter, would be that the risk of corporate entitlement reform would be on the shoulders of the Republicans and the Right Wing mouthpieces (as distinct from the true conservatives in the USA).</p>
<p>As some point, obamathered, you will confront the fact that your Republican Party is a fragile coalition of pandering publicity seekers, corporatist shills and pimps who use, abuse and discard the desperate, dedicated, selfless and idealistic. </p>
<p>However, the Democratic Party is little different, being in service to some of the same paymasters as well as the ideological dupes of the post-modern, multicultural intelligensia.</p>
<p>I can (and will) say more about those who are NOT reacting mindlessly to the programming of the MSM, be it CNN, Washington Post, Fox or MSNBC. Kudos to Rick for speaking out with his</p>
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		<title>By: obamathered</title>
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		<dc:creator>obamathered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The American Left, as embodied by the intellectually bankrupt and inherently corrupt Democratic Party, is incapable these days of risk-taking and courage. The expectation, from that quarter, would be the burden of entitlement reform ould be on the shoulders of the Right and/or Republicans, with the expectation that lead would be used as a club.

At some point, Rick, you either will have to come to terms with the fact that today's Democratic Party is  a fragile coalition of amoral hypocrites and power-mad pols (personified by the despicable Pelosi and Reid) who use the idealistic and desperate as ash tray hearts, or you will continue to be seen as a dupe. Bipartisanship is overrated anyhow, and impossible with these people. It is either defeat them at the polls--and this is more than just blowing them away in the next mid-term election--or be subservient. They understand nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The American Left, as embodied by the intellectually bankrupt and inherently corrupt Democratic Party, is incapable these days of risk-taking and courage. The expectation, from that quarter, would be the burden of entitlement reform ould be on the shoulders of the Right and/or Republicans, with the expectation that lead would be used as a club.</p>
<p>At some point, Rick, you either will have to come to terms with the fact that today&#8217;s Democratic Party is  a fragile coalition of amoral hypocrites and power-mad pols (personified by the despicable Pelosi and Reid) who use the idealistic and desperate as ash tray hearts, or you will continue to be seen as a dupe. Bipartisanship is overrated anyhow, and impossible with these people. It is either defeat them at the polls&#8211;and this is more than just blowing them away in the next mid-term election&#8211;or be subservient. They understand nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: busboy33</title>
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		<dc:creator>busboy33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

It's not my place to run with MikeReynolds conversation with you, but I don't think you answered his question from comment #9 (please dear god let it really be #9 this time).

"And you’re a Republican why?"

"I am sustained by the absolute certainty that I am right - that reason must prevail or we are doomed. I accuse the base of hyperbole and exaggeration but that statement is as true as anything that has ever been written. Our current course will lead to economic catastrophe and the only way out is both parties working together."

I understand that your belief is why you say and do what you do -- and that's fine.  You feel that way, I feel that way, my neighbor feels that way.  It's pretty normal to actually believe what you advocate (unless you are a politician, of course).

I expect you to believe what you say, and to act on that.  But the question wasn't why do you speak and advocate the way you do -- the question is why do you belong to the GOP?  What you believe would only be a justification for being a GOP member if they represented those beliefs.

Do you think that the GOP actually represents your beliefs and the truths you recognize, or do they only pay lip service to it?  If they are disingenuous, then you're membership is a betrayal of those Truths.

I can understand voting "as" a Republican if of the two relevant parties they are closer to what you believe than the Democrats -- that's being practical, and making the best of the bad tools you are provided to do what you can to further those Truths you feel inside.  But to do that doesn't require being a member of the Party.  You've spoken out again blind sheep groupthink enough that I feel pretty comfortable guessing you wouldn't join "cuz you're supposed to join a Party".  You wouldn't declare allegience to a group unless you felt like it was where you should be . . . because it was home.

Is it home for you?  Do you think they embody and represent TODAY those truths you know in your soul?  Perhaps when you originally joined the Party they did, but if they stopped doing so would you leave the Party, or would you remain in a Party that doesn't represents your Truths out of sentimental comfort?

I wouldn't think you would do the latter (not that you aren't a big sentimental teddy bear), so I have to assume you believe that they do truly embody those Truths.  Is that the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my place to run with MikeReynolds conversation with you, but I don&#8217;t think you answered his question from comment #9 (please dear god let it really be #9 this time).</p>
<p>&#8220;And you’re a Republican why?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I am sustained by the absolute certainty that I am right - that reason must prevail or we are doomed. I accuse the base of hyperbole and exaggeration but that statement is as true as anything that has ever been written. Our current course will lead to economic catastrophe and the only way out is both parties working together.&#8221;</p>
<p>I understand that your belief is why you say and do what you do &#8212; and that&#8217;s fine.  You feel that way, I feel that way, my neighbor feels that way.  It&#8217;s pretty normal to actually believe what you advocate (unless you are a politician, of course).</p>
<p>I expect you to believe what you say, and to act on that.  But the question wasn&#8217;t why do you speak and advocate the way you do &#8212; the question is why do you belong to the GOP?  What you believe would only be a justification for being a GOP member if they represented those beliefs.</p>
<p>Do you think that the GOP actually represents your beliefs and the truths you recognize, or do they only pay lip service to it?  If they are disingenuous, then you&#8217;re membership is a betrayal of those Truths.</p>
<p>I can understand voting &#8220;as&#8221; a Republican if of the two relevant parties they are closer to what you believe than the Democrats &#8212; that&#8217;s being practical, and making the best of the bad tools you are provided to do what you can to further those Truths you feel inside.  But to do that doesn&#8217;t require being a member of the Party.  You&#8217;ve spoken out again blind sheep groupthink enough that I feel pretty comfortable guessing you wouldn&#8217;t join &#8220;cuz you&#8217;re supposed to join a Party&#8221;.  You wouldn&#8217;t declare allegience to a group unless you felt like it was where you should be . . . because it was home.</p>
<p>Is it home for you?  Do you think they embody and represent TODAY those truths you know in your soul?  Perhaps when you originally joined the Party they did, but if they stopped doing so would you leave the Party, or would you remain in a Party that doesn&#8217;t represents your Truths out of sentimental comfort?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t think you would do the latter (not that you aren&#8217;t a big sentimental teddy bear), so I have to assume you believe that they do truly embody those Truths.  Is that the case?</p>
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