We get it: you hate Obama. Beyond that hatred you’ve got nothing. Vapor.”

WOW! You just have to be willing to overlook so much to believe what Mike Reynolds and Surabaya Stew believe. They wish/want/need to believe that dislike of the president is based solely on emotional “hatred.” Are these observations so profound they obviate the need for explanation? I’ll bet a euro that you all are just channeling your own emotions from the last presidency, eh?

I mean, Jesus Mike, at least aim for a little objectivity in your perspective: Don’t you really mean, “Making the best of the mess… he inherited?” That disclaimer just seems to be chiseled onto the teleprompter.

Obama didn’t just screw his own base over Afghanistan. With his poll numbers cratering down into the 40s he felt he had to at least give the appearance of doing something for the national interests. How could he “walk away” when he had already hitched his cart to “The Good War” during the campaign; had already fired one General and hired “his” man to lead that “good war” (Notice we talk of leading, not winning); as he announced his “new” strategy in Afghanistan last March. Gen McChrystal wanted 80k, was told to shut up - publicly asked for 40K - and received 30K. And now you come along attempting to make a virtue out of political necessity. Seems to me now is the first time some of those Vietnam analogies - of Ivy league whizz kids fighting the war from the WH basement - might start gaining credibility.

I sometimes wonder if the tone of the obama criticism might not regulate itself if anyone in the mainstream media or on the sychophantic left ever challenged this neophyte President with the level of scrutiny and inquiry they seem to save for Republican Presidents. I know I am getting tired of hearing other WH officials, Gibbs, and MSM pundits after the fact
“clarify” what this brilliant man really meant.

“Cheney and his supporters should be hooted at and driven from the public discourse in shame.” Hhhmmm… that is exactly how I feel when I have to listen to obama read another vacuous, platitudinous, campaign speech from the teleprompter a year into his bumbling Presidency. . . and then listen to WH officials, Gibbs, and MSM pundits wax about how historic it all is.

So tell me please, are we not witnessing the “soft bigotry of low expectations or is this just the best the modern progressive liberal democrat party has to offer?

PS: Please tell me what other actions the obama administration has taken to further U.S. national interests as a “first among equals” in the world?

Please enlighten me on the other “global empires” that “conquered” a country and then dumped half a trillion dollars into it ~ as opposed to the old fashioned way of conquering, decimating the populace, and then shipping the wealth and natural resources back to the mother country?

I have seen not a single fact put forward here by Rick, or by any of the rightwing comment-writers, to support their positions: none. Nada. Zip.

Why would anyone state facts when they have impassioned feelings to support their positions? Michael, didn’t you know that Facts are so 20th Century?

I believe that was your most intelligent comment ever. Thanks for proving my point so eloquently.

CZ: Yawn.

Everybody in Christendom except you recognizes that the president’s Afghan decision was political and had nothing to do with any grand ideas about Exceptionalism.

ed.

The point of my post is, exactly that. So what. It’s political.

It will also probably be competently handled finally. Does world need an American leader who talks smack and doesn’t deliver or someone who is quietly competent and thoughtful working on these problems.

What bugs me is the implication is that Obama doesn’t love America or think we stand out among all the world’s nations for the ideals we say we espouse. His approach is for us to live up to our self image again.

Instead of saying we’re great, we need to be great again. That means no torture, closing Guantanamo as soon as practical, and accepting that we aren’t the swaggering giant our actions seemed to indicate.

We get it: you hate Obama. Beyond that hatred you’ve got nothing. Vapor.

Best laugh I’ve had today.

Regards,

Only when he shuts his mouth.