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By: mannning

mannning — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:27:58 +0000

I agree that no faction has a corner on stupidity–left or right. It is a matter of degree, with the greater seemingly falling on the left, from my perspective, although the far, far right has some real one-tune imbeciles too. We had some snake worshippers in Tennessee that founded themselves on a somewhat obscure Bible passage. Talking about forked tongues…!

By: CZ

CZ — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:27:08 +0000

Thanks for hipping me to the minority gift buying advice. Since I live in bitter-clinger country there are no Negro friends or neighbors to buy gifts for. But if I did I sure wouldn’t want to commit a post-racial faux pas by giving one a bottle of Ripple. Again, excellent advice from the NYT. A real community service. Yep.

By: Liberty60

Liberty60 — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:21:29 +0000

Manning-
I agree with your criticisms of many ethnic advocacy groups- it becomes tribalism pure and simple.
I wouldn’t accept that somehow the Left managed to corner the market, though- when I hear people bawling that they are “losing our country” or see a pair of white hands crumpling a notice that says the job went to a minority- that too is the dog whistle of Our Tribe.

By: mannning

mannning — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:59:14 +0000

Yes indeed, let us see each other as individuals and as American citizens, with the responsibilities and obligations that citizenship implies.

Once ethnic group-think and group action in involved we are steered down paths we cannot support in all conscience as American citizens. Affirmative Action is an example, as is Reparations for Black Slavery, or the blackmail of corporations by the Rainbow Coalition headed by Jessie Jackson. The preachings of Reverend White and many ACORN activities appear to be in this class too.

But it isn’t just black group-think and group actions that is a worry, witness CAIR, for instance!

When the Left tries to coopt the ethnic group-think or group actions of blacks or other ethnic or religious groups for their own nefarious purposes we see a demonstration of yet another hypocritical facet of their cynicism and immorality.

I am reminded of Rousseau’s admonition that if society must have factions, let there be many, many of them, so that their impact on the collective will is spread all over the political and social lot–none to be too, too dominant.

Sounds like a good idea. One that we Americans appear to practice by default, if not by deliberate plan.

By: Liberty60

Liberty60 — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:12:04 +0000

There is a legitimite place for ethnic-centric sentiments- notice the mawkish sentimentality of the Irish diaspora, or the Italian-American clubs, and so forth.
So in that light, I can see a place for African themed articles. But Rick’s point is correct in that ethnic tribalism is dangerous stuff, whether it is meant to be exclusive or not.
The American genius is to see us as individuals, not tribes, and the more we can subsume ethnic identity to the national identity, the better.

By: Chuck Tucson

Chuck Tucson — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:03:41 +0000

I didnt miss the point. Every time you write about race it’s the same thing. Liberals are too afraid to admit the truth, because they’ll lose their stranglehold on minority voters. Got it.

Where do write the word “fear” or “afraid?” Where do I hint at it? Where can you point to in the piece where any reasonable person can say I am accusing the left of being afraid to “admit the truth.” What truth? I offer no counter to the left’s views on race. Nor do I even mention a political dimension.

So yes, you missed the point while doing your usual idiotic job of reading crap into what I write that isn’t there except in your fevered imagination.

ed.

By: Chuck Tucson

Chuck Tucson — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:23:37 +0000

Agreed, Rick. Liberal white cultural elites are afraid to have a frank discussion on race because they might have to face the conservative truth that white people really are awesome.

I love it when you write about race.

The fact that you missed the point doesn’t surprise me. The idea that your analysis has any basis in reality only proves my point. Do you really believe that’s what I said? Of course not. But you feel morally superior due to your enlightened views on race that you can say that I was actually writing that “white people are awesome” and feel that you’ve won any argument before we’ve even started.

ed.

By: funny man

funny man — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:31:38 +0000

I sometimes joke that the only place where I, a German, can go and talk about ‘Negroes’ is a black barber shop I sometimes frequent. I think this whole idea of ‘multiculturalism’ is on the retreat but Universities just as the NYT are the last to notice. However, I think opposition to affirmative action is very different than supporting the confederate flag. The later is a racist symbol. That’s as if I would wear a swastika because our German soldiers fought bravely in WWII (they did). It’s still a racist symbol.