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	<title>Comments on: UNITED STATES OUT OF THE UN &#8212; NOW</title>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are elements of the UN that are involved in feeding starving Africans and other necessary charitable operations around the globe (UNESCO,WHO,IMF,UNICEF, etc). The worth of all such operations of the UN should be determined, and an alternative to each of them that are indeed worthy of surviving arranged, before shutting the UN down permanently. 

It is my contention that the majority of nations in the world and their governments are not morally and ethically ready for democracy, and hence can only corrupt any organization such as the UN. Quite obviously, they have.

It has also been my contention that a coalition of the strong, free and democratic nations of the West would be far preferable to the UN, would give us a forum to replace the UN, and ensure that issues and voting would be along moral lines that free societies can have the will to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are elements of the UN that are involved in feeding starving Africans and other necessary charitable operations around the globe (UNESCO,WHO,IMF,UNICEF, etc). The worth of all such operations of the UN should be determined, and an alternative to each of them that are indeed worthy of surviving arranged, before shutting the UN down permanently. </p>
<p>It is my contention that the majority of nations in the world and their governments are not morally and ethically ready for democracy, and hence can only corrupt any organization such as the UN. Quite obviously, they have.</p>
<p>It has also been my contention that a coalition of the strong, free and democratic nations of the West would be far preferable to the UN, would give us a forum to replace the UN, and ensure that issues and voting would be along moral lines that free societies can have the will to support.</p>
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		<title>By: lionheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;we should clear out our offices and let the kleptocrats have it.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Better yet, let them build their own goddamn building- preferrably in Seoul, right on the DMZ.  Convert the existing UN building to high priced NY apartments.  The yearly income alone would make a big dent in the national debt.  Of course, Charlie Wrangle gets a couple of floors for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>we should clear out our offices and let the kleptocrats have it.</p></blockquote>
<p> Better yet, let them build their own goddamn building- preferrably in Seoul, right on the DMZ.  Convert the existing UN building to high priced NY apartments.  The yearly income alone would make a big dent in the national debt.  Of course, Charlie Wrangle gets a couple of floors for free.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Poster</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.Poster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drilling for more of our own oil and building more refineries is a good place to start.  It can be started relatively quickly, as we already know how to do it and we already know where the oil is.  In other words, no costly research and development.  

And yes, close down the United Nations in the United Nations.  The UN really only does two things well.  1.)Undermine America's just interests.  2.)Undermine Israel's just interests.  I think the argument for keeping the United States in it over the years probably goes something like this: while the UN is hostile to America, it would continue to exist even without American support and it would continue to be hostile to America.  By having it in the United States and by the United States being a member of it we are at least able to have some input.  If we were not a member, we would have no input.  While I understand and can empathize with such an argument, I think any benefits of the Untied States being involved in this are outweighed by the negatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drilling for more of our own oil and building more refineries is a good place to start.  It can be started relatively quickly, as we already know how to do it and we already know where the oil is.  In other words, no costly research and development.  </p>
<p>And yes, close down the United Nations in the United Nations.  The UN really only does two things well.  1.)Undermine America&#8217;s just interests.  2.)Undermine Israel&#8217;s just interests.  I think the argument for keeping the United States in it over the years probably goes something like this: while the UN is hostile to America, it would continue to exist even without American support and it would continue to be hostile to America.  By having it in the United States and by the United States being a member of it we are at least able to have some input.  If we were not a member, we would have no input.  While I understand and can empathize with such an argument, I think any benefits of the Untied States being involved in this are outweighed by the negatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would close down the inept United Nations.But on a list of priorities for this country I don't think it would rate the top ten.I've stopped believing in global warming,but,would do everything in our power to get off foreign oil, including drilling in Anwar,fast track nuclear,wind,solar, and most importantly weatherizing our homes...duh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would close down the inept United Nations.But on a list of priorities for this country I don&#8217;t think it would rate the top ten.I&#8217;ve stopped believing in global warming,but,would do everything in our power to get off foreign oil, including drilling in Anwar,fast track nuclear,wind,solar, and most importantly weatherizing our homes&#8230;duh</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 09:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear U. Lessou:

Five Suggestions:

1) Learn to Read. 
2) Pay special attention to reading comprehension.
3) Learn to write above a 7th Grade level.
4) Practice responding to points made in the piece you are writing about,not imaginary straw people.
5) Be Polite. Believe it or not, if you address Rick politely others will take your arguments more seriously, even when they are poorly thought out and even more poorly expressed. 

Have A Better Day!

PS: People come to this site because Rick thinks and writes clearly. It is perfectly fine to disagree, as I sometimes do. But I for one, want to read polite, intelligent disagreement that shows the other side of the argument, not simple screed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear U. Lessou:</p>
<p>Five Suggestions:</p>
<p>1) Learn to Read.<br />
2) Pay special attention to reading comprehension.<br />
3) Learn to write above a 7th Grade level.<br />
4) Practice responding to points made in the piece you are writing about,not imaginary straw people.<br />
5) Be Polite. Believe it or not, if you address Rick politely others will take your arguments more seriously, even when they are poorly thought out and even more poorly expressed. </p>
<p>Have A Better Day!</p>
<p>PS: People come to this site because Rick thinks and writes clearly. It is perfectly fine to disagree, as I sometimes do. But I for one, want to read polite, intelligent disagreement that shows the other side of the argument, not simple screed.</p>
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		<title>By: obamathered</title>
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		<dc:creator>obamathered</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The deranged freak show in Copenhagen was the last straw, indeed. I almost vomited to see a United States president disgrace himself and the nation by his presence there..but then again, the abomination of the United Nations defiles our soil every day. Close the UN and spend the money on actual assistance to people the world over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The deranged freak show in Copenhagen was the last straw, indeed. I almost vomited to see a United States president disgrace himself and the nation by his presence there..but then again, the abomination of the United Nations defiles our soil every day. Close the UN and spend the money on actual assistance to people the world over.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyranno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyranno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 05:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I too, do not possess "an ensemble of scientific credibility" please accept my observations in the spirit they are given. 

"I know the fact that science has determined the climate change is real."

HHhhhmmmm. . . of course climate change is real.  Distinct climate changes of a degree or two are recordable every hour if not every minute. Thus their revised statement/accusations, from global warming to climate change, are not incorrect.  But, one just has to buy into such a bizarre, constructed, unprovable, narrative about the world to believe what they believe. If non-believers are the equivalent of (holocaust) "deniers" then believers are the equivalent of extremist eco-terrorists who, like their other religious brethren, also believe they will get your 27 eco-virgins payoff in the next life for their righteous but often  criminal acts now.  

All I demand is that those who do not believe are given the same hearing as all of the Elmer "algore" Gantry's out there who are pushing and profiting from this sophistry. Oh and, are algore and Dr. Rajendra Pachauri not the jesse jackson and al sharpton of environmentalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I too, do not possess &#8220;an ensemble of scientific credibility&#8221; please accept my observations in the spirit they are given. </p>
<p>&#8220;I know the fact that science has determined the climate change is real.&#8221;</p>
<p>HHhhhmmmm. . . of course climate change is real.  Distinct climate changes of a degree or two are recordable every hour if not every minute. Thus their revised statement/accusations, from global warming to climate change, are not incorrect.  But, one just has to buy into such a bizarre, constructed, unprovable, narrative about the world to believe what they believe. If non-believers are the equivalent of (holocaust) &#8220;deniers&#8221; then believers are the equivalent of extremist eco-terrorists who, like their other religious brethren, also believe they will get your 27 eco-virgins payoff in the next life for their righteous but often  criminal acts now.  </p>
<p>All I demand is that those who do not believe are given the same hearing as all of the Elmer &#8220;algore&#8221; Gantry&#8217;s out there who are pushing and profiting from this sophistry. Oh and, are algore and Dr. Rajendra Pachauri not the jesse jackson and al sharpton of environmentalism?</p>
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		<title>By: U.Lessou</title>
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		<dc:creator>U.Lessou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there was any doubt that Moran has ventured into the loony world of deniers, this piece has just broke the camel's back. Seemingly discussing the UN, it gradually builds up to be yet another "I LOVE JIM INHOFE!" screed. Yes, indeed, "I'm not a... denier" but why should we spend capital to reorganize and reinvest in a new set of infrastructures to combat a dilemma which I wholeheartedly accept or else I would have labeled myself as a denier but I just contended such assertion!!! 

Moran censures the UN for its conflict of interest of investment in "related technologies" but, with malice and forethought or sheer zealotry, uses this sophomoric reasoning as a club to beat up the science. This should leave no doubt that he dastardly veneers the denier-amorous, deeply concealed within, with the correlation does not prove causation fallacy. He doesn't deny the science on its merit but he invites us to be awry of "Climategate" because that somehow undermines the "science." 

Moran, you've gone from a fence sitter to crowd surfing on the ocean of conspiracy theorists. Congratulations! Of course, if Moran wishes to adequately correct himself, I might be an assistant: "I accept the science for its finding but vigilant of certain elements for their environmentalist kookary. I know the fact the science has determined the climate change is real -- it's just that I don't accept certain solutions offered to address the issue."

Ranting about Climategate when you do not have an ensemble of scientific credibility to discern the correspondence in the context which was provided and firing a panoply of "anecdotal" spiel of piffle regarding the issue day after day, pretty much brands you another denier neophyte who is cozying to the worst of the worst. The pattern is clear for anyone with more than two brain cells to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there was any doubt that Moran has ventured into the loony world of deniers, this piece has just broke the camel&#8217;s back. Seemingly discussing the UN, it gradually builds up to be yet another &#8220;I LOVE JIM INHOFE!&#8221; screed. Yes, indeed, &#8220;I&#8217;m not a&#8230; denier&#8221; but why should we spend capital to reorganize and reinvest in a new set of infrastructures to combat a dilemma which I wholeheartedly accept or else I would have labeled myself as a denier but I just contended such assertion!!! </p>
<p>Moran censures the UN for its conflict of interest of investment in &#8220;related technologies&#8221; but, with malice and forethought or sheer zealotry, uses this sophomoric reasoning as a club to beat up the science. This should leave no doubt that he dastardly veneers the denier-amorous, deeply concealed within, with the correlation does not prove causation fallacy. He doesn&#8217;t deny the science on its merit but he invites us to be awry of &#8220;Climategate&#8221; because that somehow undermines the &#8220;science.&#8221; </p>
<p>Moran, you&#8217;ve gone from a fence sitter to crowd surfing on the ocean of conspiracy theorists. Congratulations! Of course, if Moran wishes to adequately correct himself, I might be an assistant: &#8220;I accept the science for its finding but vigilant of certain elements for their environmentalist kookary. I know the fact the science has determined the climate change is real &#8212; it&#8217;s just that I don&#8217;t accept certain solutions offered to address the issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ranting about Climategate when you do not have an ensemble of scientific credibility to discern the correspondence in the context which was provided and firing a panoply of &#8220;anecdotal&#8221; spiel of piffle regarding the issue day after day, pretty much brands you another denier neophyte who is cozying to the worst of the worst. The pattern is clear for anyone with more than two brain cells to see.</p>
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		<title>By: SShiell</title>
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		<dc:creator>SShiell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got only two words for this article:

AMEN, BROTHER!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got only two words for this article:</p>
<p>AMEN, BROTHER!</p>
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		<title>By: dexter45</title>
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		<dc:creator>dexter45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 02:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you were describing the UN I really thought you were talking about Washington.  I see little difference between the two.
Another point, I do not trust any rich snake oil salesman, and that means I see little difference between those who make billions off climate change while people go hungry and those who make billions off oil while people go hungry.
All the cap and trade money will go to the rich while the poor suffer.  I am afraid it will resemble the health care bill and will be nothing more than another transfer of money from the poor and middle class to the uber rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you were describing the UN I really thought you were talking about Washington.  I see little difference between the two.<br />
Another point, I do not trust any rich snake oil salesman, and that means I see little difference between those who make billions off climate change while people go hungry and those who make billions off oil while people go hungry.<br />
All the cap and trade money will go to the rich while the poor suffer.  I am afraid it will resemble the health care bill and will be nothing more than another transfer of money from the poor and middle class to the uber rich.</p>
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