Beyond stating clearly that I am not racist, nor do I sign up to the evolving conspiracy theories here and elsewhere, there is little else I need to say, and that is that.

The fact is, there are some blacks on the streets that I, and anyone, must be aware of and to avoid if possible. They are thugs. For example, we listen to gunfire almost nightly, especially in Summer. I had to go buy a scanner to find out whether those strings of popping sounds were pistol shots or firecrackers. They were reported very often as “shots fired”. That is the war going on, and I have no idea who they were each time, but when the radio says that the four blacks that were shooting at another group fled the scene, I take the police at their word. Happens all the time within blocks of my home. Stray bullet holes are not unusual to find, either. The point is that it is black thugs doing this nine out of ten times here. Maybe not elsewhere, but definitely HERE!

If I was gramatically deficient, so be it.
You, as a reader, painted a tangled picture, so it must be true, and to sort it all out again is a waste of time, I think. It would not be the first time the voice change method failed. I do become concerned by implications that I lied, however.

Take it as you will.

You wrote in the 1st person perspective. If you are suprised that writing “I need to defend my loved ones from the black menace” leads people to conclude “I” means “manning”, then I suggest you bone up on your English comprehension skills.

The fact that your “this is what others think” qualifier came later, in enitrely different comments, doesn’t help.

I do take exception to being accused of calling you a liar. I don’t see how that is possible for two reasons.

First, my comments stated how your 1st person comments sounded. They don’t tell you what you think (according to you). I said that your statements sounded like they were written from the perspective of manning . . . and it does. The tell is in the use of words like “I” and “my”. You say you are reporting what your informants think, but that doesn’t change that what you wrote sounds like its from your perspective.
Here’s an example:
“I want to destroy America because of what it has done to my family”.
Does that sound like I am saying that, or does it sound like I am speaking for somebody else? If you responded “busboy, it sounds like you hate America”, whether I do or not your statement isn’t incorrect, and its not calling me a liar. Even if I tell you I don’t endorse that statement, it still SOUNDS like it reflects my beliefs. That is what I said.

Secondly, and far more relevant . . . according to you, you haven’t actually said what you believe.
If I’m understanding your comments, you’ve made several 1st person statements, and then said that those statements are what your friends believe. Whether your friends believe those statements or not has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING on what YOU believe. Here’s an example to illustrate that:

statement one: I like ice cream
statement two: statement one reflects what my friend Fred thinks.

Now, based on those two statements . . . do I (busboy33) like ice cream? Fred and I can both like ice cream. Fred can like ice cream and I can hate it. Under both of those circumstances, under your explanation I can stand behind the two statements.

The closest you came to saying how YOU feel (assuming we don’t attribute any of the 1st person perspective comments to you) is saying you don’t endorse or promote conspiracy theories. But that is irrevelant to the topic, because you haven’t said that the ideas of your informants ARE conspiracy theories.
To illustrate, let me add a third statement to the ice cream example:

statement three: busboy33 does not like bad food.

Do I like ice cream or not? Have I said I don’t? Have I said I do? Do I disagree with Fred? Do I think ice cream is “bad food”? Do I think Fred is right or wrong for liking ice cream?

That’s an extremely confusing “side-step” of the question. I stand by my position that your comments on this are confusing. You made racist comments in the 1st person voice. You say this is what your friends believe. You don’t say what you think. To say “this sounds like it reflects your beliefs” isn’t calling you a liar . . . because it DOES sound like that and you never said that it DOESN’T reflect your beliefs. Hell, you never even said it doesn’t SOUND like it reflects your beliefs. If you did make that statement, I’ve missed it. If you did then I apologize, and I’m a sloppy reader. But if you didn’t . . . then I never called you a liar, and your umbrage is unjustified. If I was supposed to imply you didn’t from your statements, then you need to be more clear. And as someone who is demonstrably skilled at the written word, I firmly believe that you know that (a guess). If you choose to leave the reader to their own devices, and expect them to deduce your personal beliefs . . . don’t be offended if the reader takes the 1st person voice to mean you. If you want people to think you don’t believe what you say in the 1st person voice, then SAY THAT.

You were told at least three or four times in different comments that I was writing about some of the racial attitudes of my many contacts here of all political persuasions, yet you imply here that I was not telling it like it was, but that I was expressing my own opinions—i.e. that I was lying. I do not lie, so I find this to be insulting.

That is it for this thread.

I wasn’t aware I called you a liar. Just went over my comments here and I didn’t find it.

Why is it disingenuous for Obama to renounce Wright?

What does being socialist have to do with black power?

One last remark, take it or leave it, I don’t care: I do not believe in the black conspiracy theories that the others that I know do. I do believe in safety, and I do feel threatened by blacks that war on the streets almost daily here. Any reasonable person would. I do have grave doubts about the President’s programs and spending plans, and I am persuaded that he is very socialistic. I do not appreciate the Wright mentality, nor what I perceive as the dishonesty of the President in throwing Wright under the bus to get elected. I do not know whether this is the tip of a great conspiracy, because I do not have definitive information on the situation. Others believe that they have such information, or at least circumstantial evidence of it. That is what I reported. End of story.

So in comment #21, when you say we are at war, or that you will defend you and yours from the Obsidian Menace . . . you are role-playing?

“It would be exactly the same, note you well again, were it to be whites, blues, or purple gangs that were doing the harm, but it is odds-on here that an intruder, a mugger or a ruffian will be black and probably a black power organization member or church-goer!”

Again, you’re not saying this as manning, but as a person who talks to manning? That the threat to the whites you care about are blacks, and members of a seditious anti-white black organization?

I gotta say, it sounds an awful lot like it’s written from the perspective of manning. It doesn’t sound at all like manning is merely reporting the ideas of “manning’s friend”.

“but I am reporting that they see it that way which is the most important thing.”

And there are people that think the planed will be destroyed in 2012 because the Mayan calendar ends then. They are idiots, and frankly I don’t give a damn about their opinions.

How do YOU se it? You manning, not you manning’s informant? Do you fear for the safety of those you love who are white from a black threat? Do you think a black street gang is part of a larger organized racial menace? Do you think some street punk making their bones with the gang is targeting a white person to destabilize the societal power structure? Do you think the President of the United States is plotting specifically to harm white Americans?

You’ve said that this is all what your informants tell you . . . but you didn’t say that you disagree with any of this.

Every word you’ve written on this subject — every word — could be written by a Klansman or a member of Aryan Brotherhood.

“Your informants.” That’s very funny.

Merry Christmas.

busboy
I haven’t the time on Christmas Eve to set forth the full set of opinions that I have tried to express here drawn as carefully as I can from the people I know. It is long and involved, and it seems to boil down to white fear of blacks, blacks that acquire power, blacks that are not trusted by whites to be impartial with their power, and blacks that roam the streets looking for victims, blacks that extort payments to Rainbow for racial peace, blacks that attempt to block a polling place, and yes, blacks that have ascended to powerful positions in the government. Perhaps there is also an element of white guilt, too, that wonders whether blacks in power now would truly be impartial and trustworthy. These seem to be the main concerns of my “informants”. I cannot make all of the linkages that they can up to the top, but I am reporting that they see it that way which is the most important thing.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Oh, the Google is a lovely thing, isn’t it? I always wondered why the three ‘N’s in your screen name.

Turns out if you Google “NNN” and “race” you go straight to New Nation News — a neo-Nazi web site that specializes in reporting black on white violence. Which it turns out is your particular kink

Quite a coincidence. Dontcha think?

Um. . . that I don’t like wife beaters and don’t like being robbed? That seems to be the only repeated theme.

You’ve already revealed yourself as a racist, you aren’t really going to defend wife-beating now are you?