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		<title>By: theCL</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

May I suggest you stop reading books by Tannenhaus, and instead spend some time learning economics.

If you're interested, send me an email and I'll hook you up with some free books to help get you started.

Economics is a social science, it's not finance. It'll give you a better grasp of how things work outside the political arena, in the real world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>May I suggest you stop reading books by Tannenhaus, and instead spend some time learning economics.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, send me an email and I&#8217;ll hook you up with some free books to help get you started.</p>
<p>Economics is a social science, it&#8217;s not finance. It&#8217;ll give you a better grasp of how things work outside the political arena, in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nut House &#187; REPORTS ON THE DEATH OF CULTURE 11 HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nut House &#187; REPORTS ON THE DEATH OF CULTURE 11 HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] REPORTS ON THE DEATH OF CULTURE 11 HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED THE RICK MORAN SHOW: THE 41st VOTE WHY CONSERVATISM IS DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY OF AX GRINDING AND SCORE SETTLING WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON IN THE MASSACHUSETTS SENATE RACE? Of Ax [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] REPORTS ON THE DEATH OF CULTURE 11 HAVE BEEN GREATLY EXAGGERATED THE RICK MORAN SHOW: THE 41st VOTE WHY CONSERVATISM IS DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY OF AX GRINDING AND SCORE SETTLING WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON IN THE MASSACHUSETTS SENATE RACE? Of Ax [...]</p>
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		<title>By: And the Rick Played On : The Other McCain</title>
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		<dc:creator>And the Rick Played On : The Other McCain</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Rick Played OnPosted on &#124; January 14, 2010 &#124; No Commentsby SmittyAn inadvertantly funny title from Rick Moran: &#8220;WHY CONSERVATISM IS DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY&#8221;. Emphasis mine throughout.I debated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rick Played OnPosted on | January 14, 2010 | No Commentsby SmittyAn inadvertantly funny title from Rick Moran: &#8220;WHY CONSERVATISM IS DISCONNECTED FROM REALITY&#8221;. Emphasis mine throughout.I debated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatism Today

Perhaps I need to turn the crank much slower to recognize where some people declare that conservatism is “unhinged”. It seems to me that most of the criticism is about fringe groups and the strange positions a few that call themselves conservative take that are simply wrong, just as you will find in every movement of any size.
  
The conservatives that I know closely hold to what I consider to be classical beliefs of conservatism, but those are rather nicely ameliorated by their understanding of today’s political scene and the state of the union.
  
One criticism that I have heard a number of times is that of some conservatives insisting on smaller government. What they mean, I believe, is less government intrusion into our private lives, and more government concentration on its constitutional obligations.

We do have far more agencies and such than anyone can understand, and they all vie to make their ideas of governance take hold, with ever bigger budgets and mission creep to match. This is quite often at cross purposes with one or more other government agencies, and the people are caught in between. So there is a need to examine very carefully each and every government organization in order to remove duplication of functions and decision powers, and to insist upon a valid and stable mission, while saving the taxpayer some money.
 
It is a sad fact that much of the legislation of the past century carries the government beyond its mandated Constitutional functions and areas of responsibility, in order to meet what some insist is a crying need or even right. This creeping evolution of our government towards socialism or totalitarianism is not what our Fathers had in mind, and it is not what our middle of the road conservatives have in mind for “right-sized” government.

There is little reason to insist that as our population grows and diversifies, the government should grow proportionately as well. It should grow only so far that it meets its constitutional obligations to the people.

There is a right size for government that can cope with even a much larger population, especially when they employ modern tools of IT and automation.
  
There is also a right set of government responsibilities and duties, beyond which it is the states, the localities and the citizenry that must stand up and cope for themselves, and not turn to the federal government in every instance.  This right set is first outlined in our Constitution, and that set is amplified by existing legislation and laws in force at several levels---federal, state and local—which should be examined for savings as well by their respective legislators and administrations.
  
Each state has its own Constitution and laws that parallel the national set, but with some significant differences. There seems to be a movement to centralize all lawmaking in the federal government, and to downplay state and local legal preferences.

This is not what the Constitution specifies, but it is what liberals appear to want, because it makes it easier to impose their kind of thinking on the entire nation and every person in it through congressional legislation or from legislation from the bench.  This direction most conservatives object to very strongly.

What are the guidelines or tenets that most conservatives sign up to? It is a simple set to write down, but far from simple to live by:
1. Follow Natural Law and all of the moral obligations, duties and responsibilities that are inferred from this law, both for government and for citizens.
2. Uphold the Constitution and the civil laws derived from it, from both inside and outside threats to its sanctity. Show faith in these prescriptions.
3. Uphold State and Local Laws, but resist the temptation to legislate every aspect of society, which would create massively more difficulties than it would solve.
4. Maintain Traditions, Customs, Conventions and Institutions that have been established over the 230-odd years of the nation’s existence, and not change them without just cause, and due deliberation by all concerned.
5. Cope with Change, since change is inevitable, but truly needed changes must be carefully controlled and implemented so as to minimize later unpleasant and unforeseen effects on the people, the society, and the nation. 
6. Defense of the Nation. A strong defense is most necessary. It must be maintained to keep our sovereignty, and to survive and prosper in this imperfect world, populated as it is by imperfect men and imperfect nations.
7. Maintain Law and Order, both nationally (such as for our borders), state-wise, and locally. Apply our laws evenly and fully.
8. Promote Mixed Capitalism, largely free market based, but carefully and minimally regulated by the government to ensure fair play. It is apparent that the government must not be in competition with the private sector for business and profit.
9. Fair Taxation, where every citizen makes a contribution. The definition of what is “fair” for all is not a simple challenge, but it is one that must be answered satisfactorily. Excessive taxation demotes business and promotes spending for pork projects.
10. Maintain the Right to Private Property, since it has been shown that freedom and liberty are tremendously enhanced by private ownership.
11. Fiscal Responsibility, which means careful budgeting, living within our means, control of spending, and fiscally responsible legislation to name a few aspects. This is needed more than ever to rein in the spending that is killing our economy. We must return to fiscal responsibility.
12. Promote Science, Technology and Engineering, since our modern world is massively dependent upon these efforts to maintain and better our way of life. Conversely, we must reject fantasy science and unproven assertions from pseudo-scientists bent upon their own gain, either alone or in collusion with others.
13. Assure American Cultural Goals, which must include assimilation of diverse cultures into our American society, integration by means of a common language--English--non-discrimination before the law, and proper education of all our people to assume their roles and responsibilities in the American Republic. Support to families and their values should be integral to our governance.
14. Freedom Must be Preferred over Equality, because we must not legislate for equality, only to find that we have legislated against freedom and liberty, and thus have seriously damaged or destroyed our republic.

Given the above tenets, which I believe most conservatives sign up to, even TP'ers, just where exactly is mainline conservatism going astray?

Is it in 'peripheral' issues? Which ones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatism Today</p>
<p>Perhaps I need to turn the crank much slower to recognize where some people declare that conservatism is “unhinged”. It seems to me that most of the criticism is about fringe groups and the strange positions a few that call themselves conservative take that are simply wrong, just as you will find in every movement of any size.</p>
<p>The conservatives that I know closely hold to what I consider to be classical beliefs of conservatism, but those are rather nicely ameliorated by their understanding of today’s political scene and the state of the union.</p>
<p>One criticism that I have heard a number of times is that of some conservatives insisting on smaller government. What they mean, I believe, is less government intrusion into our private lives, and more government concentration on its constitutional obligations.</p>
<p>We do have far more agencies and such than anyone can understand, and they all vie to make their ideas of governance take hold, with ever bigger budgets and mission creep to match. This is quite often at cross purposes with one or more other government agencies, and the people are caught in between. So there is a need to examine very carefully each and every government organization in order to remove duplication of functions and decision powers, and to insist upon a valid and stable mission, while saving the taxpayer some money.</p>
<p>It is a sad fact that much of the legislation of the past century carries the government beyond its mandated Constitutional functions and areas of responsibility, in order to meet what some insist is a crying need or even right. This creeping evolution of our government towards socialism or totalitarianism is not what our Fathers had in mind, and it is not what our middle of the road conservatives have in mind for “right-sized” government.</p>
<p>There is little reason to insist that as our population grows and diversifies, the government should grow proportionately as well. It should grow only so far that it meets its constitutional obligations to the people.</p>
<p>There is a right size for government that can cope with even a much larger population, especially when they employ modern tools of IT and automation.</p>
<p>There is also a right set of government responsibilities and duties, beyond which it is the states, the localities and the citizenry that must stand up and cope for themselves, and not turn to the federal government in every instance.  This right set is first outlined in our Constitution, and that set is amplified by existing legislation and laws in force at several levels&#8212;federal, state and local—which should be examined for savings as well by their respective legislators and administrations.</p>
<p>Each state has its own Constitution and laws that parallel the national set, but with some significant differences. There seems to be a movement to centralize all lawmaking in the federal government, and to downplay state and local legal preferences.</p>
<p>This is not what the Constitution specifies, but it is what liberals appear to want, because it makes it easier to impose their kind of thinking on the entire nation and every person in it through congressional legislation or from legislation from the bench.  This direction most conservatives object to very strongly.</p>
<p>What are the guidelines or tenets that most conservatives sign up to? It is a simple set to write down, but far from simple to live by:<br />
1. Follow Natural Law and all of the moral obligations, duties and responsibilities that are inferred from this law, both for government and for citizens.<br />
2. Uphold the Constitution and the civil laws derived from it, from both inside and outside threats to its sanctity. Show faith in these prescriptions.<br />
3. Uphold State and Local Laws, but resist the temptation to legislate every aspect of society, which would create massively more difficulties than it would solve.<br />
4. Maintain Traditions, Customs, Conventions and Institutions that have been established over the 230-odd years of the nation’s existence, and not change them without just cause, and due deliberation by all concerned.<br />
5. Cope with Change, since change is inevitable, but truly needed changes must be carefully controlled and implemented so as to minimize later unpleasant and unforeseen effects on the people, the society, and the nation.<br />
6. Defense of the Nation. A strong defense is most necessary. It must be maintained to keep our sovereignty, and to survive and prosper in this imperfect world, populated as it is by imperfect men and imperfect nations.<br />
7. Maintain Law and Order, both nationally (such as for our borders), state-wise, and locally. Apply our laws evenly and fully.<br />
8. Promote Mixed Capitalism, largely free market based, but carefully and minimally regulated by the government to ensure fair play. It is apparent that the government must not be in competition with the private sector for business and profit.<br />
9. Fair Taxation, where every citizen makes a contribution. The definition of what is “fair” for all is not a simple challenge, but it is one that must be answered satisfactorily. Excessive taxation demotes business and promotes spending for pork projects.<br />
10. Maintain the Right to Private Property, since it has been shown that freedom and liberty are tremendously enhanced by private ownership.<br />
11. Fiscal Responsibility, which means careful budgeting, living within our means, control of spending, and fiscally responsible legislation to name a few aspects. This is needed more than ever to rein in the spending that is killing our economy. We must return to fiscal responsibility.<br />
12. Promote Science, Technology and Engineering, since our modern world is massively dependent upon these efforts to maintain and better our way of life. Conversely, we must reject fantasy science and unproven assertions from pseudo-scientists bent upon their own gain, either alone or in collusion with others.<br />
13. Assure American Cultural Goals, which must include assimilation of diverse cultures into our American society, integration by means of a common language&#8211;English&#8211;non-discrimination before the law, and proper education of all our people to assume their roles and responsibilities in the American Republic. Support to families and their values should be integral to our governance.<br />
14. Freedom Must be Preferred over Equality, because we must not legislate for equality, only to find that we have legislated against freedom and liberty, and thus have seriously damaged or destroyed our republic.</p>
<p>Given the above tenets, which I believe most conservatives sign up to, even TP&#8217;ers, just where exactly is mainline conservatism going astray?</p>
<p>Is it in &#8216;peripheral&#8217; issues? Which ones?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 05:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I see you are vying to replace Sullivan or Johnson as the voice of the Beltway.  You do sound as well informed and wise as those many, many denizens who live within the Beltway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I see you are vying to replace Sullivan or Johnson as the voice of the Beltway.  You do sound as well informed and wise as those many, many denizens who live within the Beltway.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kinda funny how there were no teaparty protest when the good ole boy conservative GWB was running up the deficit. Or wasting a trillion dollars invading and occupying Iraq. Nobody was crying "I want my country back" when he was president. But a liberal Democrat running up deficits,why, thats all together different,don't ya know? All you people crying every day about Pelosi,Reid, and Obama, stop and think, how'd they get in power. Because Bush and the gop ran the country into the ground. And you supporters of him never said a word in opposition. So now, cry me a river. Rick is spot on in his blog post. Palin and crew have muddied the waters about the good points of conservatism. Now the modern day conservatism is just attack dogs. They just want to paint all Democrats as Marxists. Go ahead nominate Caribou Barbie, a woman who didn't know their were 2 Koreas. What happened to intellectual conservatives like the late Jack Kemp? It just kills you people when Rick tells it like it is. The rightwing echo chamber doesn't exist on this website. good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda funny how there were no teaparty protest when the good ole boy conservative GWB was running up the deficit. Or wasting a trillion dollars invading and occupying Iraq. Nobody was crying &#8220;I want my country back&#8221; when he was president. But a liberal Democrat running up deficits,why, thats all together different,don&#8217;t ya know? All you people crying every day about Pelosi,Reid, and Obama, stop and think, how&#8217;d they get in power. Because Bush and the gop ran the country into the ground. And you supporters of him never said a word in opposition. So now, cry me a river. Rick is spot on in his blog post. Palin and crew have muddied the waters about the good points of conservatism. Now the modern day conservatism is just attack dogs. They just want to paint all Democrats as Marxists. Go ahead nominate Caribou Barbie, a woman who didn&#8217;t know their were 2 Koreas. What happened to intellectual conservatives like the late Jack Kemp? It just kills you people when Rick tells it like it is. The rightwing echo chamber doesn&#8217;t exist on this website. good.</p>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plumb Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have written a rebuttal to this article and published it here:  &lt;a href="http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6417" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6417.&lt;/a&gt; 

With all due respect to Rick Moran, whom I believe to be a fine man and a solid conservative, I think rather than disconnecting from reality, the conservative movement is finally awakening to the harsh reality that we have ignored for a full century: that American liberty and the progressive movement are utterly incompatible, and that to accept any part of the progressive claim that governments exist to solve social problems is to accept all parts of it, to our destruction.

Come visit and comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written a rebuttal to this article and published it here:  <a href="http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6417" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6417" rel="nofollow">http://www.plumbbobblog.com/?p=6417</a>. </p>
<p>With all due respect to Rick Moran, whom I believe to be a fine man and a solid conservative, I think rather than disconnecting from reality, the conservative movement is finally awakening to the harsh reality that we have ignored for a full century: that American liberty and the progressive movement are utterly incompatible, and that to accept any part of the progressive claim that governments exist to solve social problems is to accept all parts of it, to our destruction.</p>
<p>Come visit and comment.</p>
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		<title>By: narciso</title>
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		<dc:creator>narciso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't you have that backwards, the media strove to find the dark cloud in every silver lining, if unenployment was low, they looked at the underemployed, or the income differential. every explosion in Iraq was treated like the Tet offensive. Katrina was treated as if Bush had blown up the levees himself. Everytime a terrorist plot was uncovered
it was dismissed, and every Gitmo detainee was given the benefit of the doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you have that backwards, the media strove to find the dark cloud in every silver lining, if unenployment was low, they looked at the underemployed, or the income differential. every explosion in Iraq was treated like the Tet offensive. Katrina was treated as if Bush had blown up the levees himself. Everytime a terrorist plot was uncovered<br />
it was dismissed, and every Gitmo detainee was given the benefit of the doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Plumb Bob Blog &#187; Why Rick Moran is Disconnected From Reality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plumb Bob Blog &#187; Why Rick Moran is Disconnected From Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was cruising &#8220;The Moderate Voice&#8221; yesterday, a blog site dedicated to serving the illusion of mainstream Democrats that they&#8217;re &#8220;moderates,&#8221; when I was shocked and a little dismayed to see Rick Moran, proprietor of Right Wing Nuthouse and at one time editor for Pajamas Media, posting an opinion piece explaining why he believes conservatism is disconnected from reality. He cross-posted the piece at Right Wing Nuthouse. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was cruising &#8220;The Moderate Voice&#8221; yesterday, a blog site dedicated to serving the illusion of mainstream Democrats that they&#8217;re &#8220;moderates,&#8221; when I was shocked and a little dismayed to see Rick Moran, proprietor of Right Wing Nuthouse and at one time editor for Pajamas Media, posting an opinion piece explaining why he believes conservatism is disconnected from reality. He cross-posted the piece at Right Wing Nuthouse. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed, that is the problem! You don't believe you are running the nation into the ground! But, there are those of us that do believe it with all our hearts. 

May God be kind to us all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed, that is the problem! You don&#8217;t believe you are running the nation into the ground! But, there are those of us that do believe it with all our hearts. </p>
<p>May God be kind to us all!</p>
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