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		<title>By: KenGirard</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenGirard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 20:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geoffgo,
So out gunned by... a bunch of liberals who mostly don't own guns? Or are you including the military in your count of folks who are not what you are referring to as "Patriots"?

And what exactly is it that is now forcing you to be a conspiracy theorist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geoffgo,<br />
So out gunned by&#8230; a bunch of liberals who mostly don&#8217;t own guns? Or are you including the military in your count of folks who are not what you are referring to as &#8220;Patriots&#8221;?</p>
<p>And what exactly is it that is now forcing you to be a conspiracy theorist?</p>
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		<title>By: geoffgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>geoffgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken,

I didn't say "vastly outnumbered."  I said outgunned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say &#8220;vastly outnumbered.&#8221;  I said outgunned.</p>
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		<title>By: KenGirard</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenGirard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geoffgo - Allow me to say that I find you quite amusing. 

"At this point Patriots are way out-gunned, no matter their fervor, location, or armament. That observation comes from a never-before forced to be survivalist, or conspiracy theorist." 

So is it your view that the number of "non-Patriots" (Whomever imagine them to be) so vastly out number "Patriots" (Whomever you imagine them to be) that the "Patriots" only hope of getting what they want is to ignore that the US is a democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geoffgo - Allow me to say that I find you quite amusing. </p>
<p>&#8220;At this point Patriots are way out-gunned, no matter their fervor, location, or armament. That observation comes from a never-before forced to be survivalist, or conspiracy theorist.&#8221; </p>
<p>So is it your view that the number of &#8220;non-Patriots&#8221; (Whomever imagine them to be) so vastly out number &#8220;Patriots&#8221; (Whomever you imagine them to be) that the &#8220;Patriots&#8221; only hope of getting what they want is to ignore that the US is a democracy?</p>
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		<title>By: geoffgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>geoffgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's the rush?

- For the 1st time in history, US gov't buracracies (local, county, state, regional, national) now match private employment!

- So what's the headlong rush to get all this totalitarian agenda passed, given the obvious backlash?  Answer: Brown vs. Coakley.  

The Left has planned all along to get as much as possible, at every opportunity, and work from there.  The Dems knew Teddy was gonna die; and somewhat untimely as it turns out, according to MA laws for special elections to fill the "peoples' seat." If he hadn't died, they'd be wheeling him in to sign sh*t, using a mechanical device to augment his debility. 

And we wouldn't be having this conversation about this particular Senate seat and super-majority rule, and nuclear options and the processes that work against US.

The Dems had planned, all along thinking they have it covered; but all plans are subject to change, upon meeting the competitive response.  Coakley was their best choice; ie, the Party had no better option, intellect and charisma-wise or aside, given the decision time.  Coakley seems to be a typical far left pol; ignorant as a stump, tone deaf - gaffwise approaching a Biden; close to that other Kennedy they wanted to crown.  Otherwise Coakley'd be starving in private practice.  She was AG?

Ergo, and given the total disregard of the accelerating intensity of the protest, that the super-majority needs to get all this "takeover" accomplished de jure rather than de facto now; eg, before a Sen. Brown (or whoever that was potentially going to be) can be seated to possibly disrupt and devalue the current tactics. 

Just think, we're paying the bureaucrats to enslave US using tax. And now their affiliated numbers approach if not exceed half of US.  Their half already has all the necessary mandates and accoutrements needed to "put down civil unrest."  Last week Obama issued an Executive Order creating a panel to coordinate all activities, by all gov't agencies, in event of civil disaster.  Down to local sheriffs - including the Fed's ability to call up the NatGuard in each of the respective States.  Unrest works just as well.  

At this point Patriots are way out-gunned, no matter their fervor, location, or armament.  That observation comes from a never-before forced to be survivalist, or conspiracy theorist. 
  
Beware the next crisis.  I get gloomy, dreamin bout a turnaround, and pondering civility.  Seems our cause will require the "sweetest talkers" since Lincoln.  Along with some of his "temporary" transgressions on individual liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the rush?</p>
<p>- For the 1st time in history, US gov&#8217;t buracracies (local, county, state, regional, national) now match private employment!</p>
<p>- So what&#8217;s the headlong rush to get all this totalitarian agenda passed, given the obvious backlash?  Answer: Brown vs. Coakley.  </p>
<p>The Left has planned all along to get as much as possible, at every opportunity, and work from there.  The Dems knew Teddy was gonna die; and somewhat untimely as it turns out, according to MA laws for special elections to fill the &#8220;peoples&#8217; seat.&#8221; If he hadn&#8217;t died, they&#8217;d be wheeling him in to sign sh*t, using a mechanical device to augment his debility. </p>
<p>And we wouldn&#8217;t be having this conversation about this particular Senate seat and super-majority rule, and nuclear options and the processes that work against US.</p>
<p>The Dems had planned, all along thinking they have it covered; but all plans are subject to change, upon meeting the competitive response.  Coakley was their best choice; ie, the Party had no better option, intellect and charisma-wise or aside, given the decision time.  Coakley seems to be a typical far left pol; ignorant as a stump, tone deaf - gaffwise approaching a Biden; close to that other Kennedy they wanted to crown.  Otherwise Coakley&#8217;d be starving in private practice.  She was AG?</p>
<p>Ergo, and given the total disregard of the accelerating intensity of the protest, that the super-majority needs to get all this &#8220;takeover&#8221; accomplished de jure rather than de facto now; eg, before a Sen. Brown (or whoever that was potentially going to be) can be seated to possibly disrupt and devalue the current tactics. </p>
<p>Just think, we&#8217;re paying the bureaucrats to enslave US using tax. And now their affiliated numbers approach if not exceed half of US.  Their half already has all the necessary mandates and accoutrements needed to &#8220;put down civil unrest.&#8221;  Last week Obama issued an Executive Order creating a panel to coordinate all activities, by all gov&#8217;t agencies, in event of civil disaster.  Down to local sheriffs - including the Fed&#8217;s ability to call up the NatGuard in each of the respective States.  Unrest works just as well.  </p>
<p>At this point Patriots are way out-gunned, no matter their fervor, location, or armament.  That observation comes from a never-before forced to be survivalist, or conspiracy theorist. </p>
<p>Beware the next crisis.  I get gloomy, dreamin bout a turnaround, and pondering civility.  Seems our cause will require the &#8220;sweetest talkers&#8221; since Lincoln.  Along with some of his &#8220;temporary&#8221; transgressions on individual liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Degan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Degan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mississippi? Without a doubt.

Alabama? Inevitable.

Texas? A foregone conclusion.

Having said that, I refuse to believe that - given all that the GOP has done to this once-great nation in the past decade - the good people of Massachusetts would be stupid enough to send a Republican to Washington at this point in our history.

I'm sorry but I just refuse to believe it.

http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

Tom Degan
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mississippi? Without a doubt.</p>
<p>Alabama? Inevitable.</p>
<p>Texas? A foregone conclusion.</p>
<p>Having said that, I refuse to believe that - given all that the GOP has done to this once-great nation in the past decade - the good people of Massachusetts would be stupid enough to send a Republican to Washington at this point in our history.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I just refuse to believe it.</p>
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<p>Tom Degan<br />
Goshen, NY</p>
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		<title>By: John Burke</title>
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		<description>It's impossible to imagine Snowe voting for a health care bill after all that's happened, including the Dems losing in Mass over voter fury against it!  Maine voters probably dislike it even more.

I agree that the most likely option is it dies -- slowly perhaps with a lot of pointless action to cover their retreat (see Kausfiles for smart takes on what those mught be).  Obama et al. may still be making noises about deadlines and tactics, but they aren't so stupid as to all commit political suicide.  Outside of districts like Jerry Nadler's and Jesse Jackson, Jr.'s, this bill is toxic.  That's why Brown is going to win, after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s impossible to imagine Snowe voting for a health care bill after all that&#8217;s happened, including the Dems losing in Mass over voter fury against it!  Maine voters probably dislike it even more.</p>
<p>I agree that the most likely option is it dies &#8212; slowly perhaps with a lot of pointless action to cover their retreat (see Kausfiles for smart takes on what those mught be).  Obama et al. may still be making noises about deadlines and tactics, but they aren&#8217;t so stupid as to all commit political suicide.  Outside of districts like Jerry Nadler&#8217;s and Jesse Jackson, Jr.&#8217;s, this bill is toxic.  That&#8217;s why Brown is going to win, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: politics101</title>
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		<description>I want to see how the lame-stream media helps the dems to explain why the "Nuclear option" (remeber that one) is ok for democrates when they want to shove something through ,but not republicans. I remeber when the media and the dems raised holy hell about the republicans using the "nuclear option" of reconciliation to pass some legislation a few years back ( what it was excapes me now) At the time the spineless republican leadership caved to media pressure as the dems smiled like a possum eating S*^@#T. You have to admit one thing about the dems "they ain`t skeerd" HEY....REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP!!!! whatch how someone with some stones gets things done in washington ,lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see how the lame-stream media helps the dems to explain why the &#8220;Nuclear option&#8221; (remeber that one) is ok for democrates when they want to shove something through ,but not republicans. I remeber when the media and the dems raised holy hell about the republicans using the &#8220;nuclear option&#8221; of reconciliation to pass some legislation a few years back ( what it was excapes me now) At the time the spineless republican leadership caved to media pressure as the dems smiled like a possum eating S*^@#T. You have to admit one thing about the dems &#8220;they ain`t skeerd&#8221; HEY&#8230;.REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP!!!! whatch how someone with some stones gets things done in washington ,lol</p>
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