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7/25/2007
OBAMA WILL SURRENDER MORE QUICKLY THAN HILLARY

I find the imbroglio over Senator Barak Obama’s remark that he would be willing to meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea without pre-conditions amusing on several levels.

First, who is surprised that a man of the far left would be naive enough to make himself available as a propaganda tool for our deadliest enemies? The belief among liberals that their purity of heart and plain, simple goodness will warm the cockles of beasts like Assad or Kim Jong Il has been part and parcel of lefty dogma since before Americans were accused of having “an inordinate fear of communism.”

Hence, the man who uttered those words before visiting Moscow and kissing a senile Brezhnev on the cheek 5 months before the old coot ordered Soviet troops into Afghanistan could genuinely be heartbroken at such a monstrous betrayal of “trust.” Who would have guessed that the Soviets would double cross us like that?

The answer at the time was just about anyone who chose to see the Soviets for what they were.

Obama seems to have a similar problem in identifying the difference between genuine diplomacy and handing an opponent your head on a platter. Perhaps he should ask Nancy Pelosi, the highest ranking American leader to visit with President Bashar Assad of Syria in many years how well that kind of face to face diplomacy works.

Since Pelosi’s disastrous visit with Assad (in which she embarrassed herself and the United States by claiming she passed along a message of peace from Prime Minister Olmert – a notion quickly and brutally shot down by the Israeli foreign office) President Assad has proven just how easily he played his American visitor for a fool.

Just exactly what has the Syrian President been up to since that April visit?

  • He let loose the Palestinian/al-Qaeda inspired terrorist group Fatah al-Islam on the Lebanese government.
  • His forces have occupied areas inside the Lebanese border, building revetments and digging trenches.
  • The flow of foreign fighters into Iraq – about 80 a month – has not slackened one bit.
  • According to the UN he has resupplied Hebzbullah with arms and missiles to the point that the terrorist group has bragged they are as strong today as they were prior to their aggression against Israel last summer.
  • He has continued his attempts to intimidate the Lebanese government, trying to force them into bringing the pro-Syrian opposition to power.

This is what has been confirmed. Much more troublemaking by Assad has been suspected including plots to murder anti-Syrian Lebanese as well as foment a civil war in that tiny country. And his plans to destabilize the Golan Heights the same way he’s roiling the streets of Lebanon are well known by the Israelis.

What Pelosi’s face to face meeting accomplished was clear; zero for America and a PR triumph for Assad. Even non-competitive liberals have got to see that score as a losing proposition.

Now take Pelosi’s gaffe and imagine President Obama in Caracas with that smiling goat of a President-for-life Chavez introducing our hero to the multitudes of Venezuelans paid to go into the streets (or perhaps genuinely curious to see an American president handing a sworn enemy a propaganda coup). Does Chavez inch away from Tehran. Does he drop his support of the drug cartel/terrorists/communist revolutionaries in FARC? Does he stop his meddling in other South American countries?

Not likely. But Chavez has gotten exactly what he wants – legitimacy offered up on a silver platter by an American president.

Hillary has called Obama’s plan to take the 50 cent tour of America’s enemies “irresponsible and naive.” Actually, she’s probably upset she didn’t think of it first. For his part, Obama was backtracking but only slightly:

“What she’s somehow maintaining is my statement could be construed as not having asked what the meeting was about. I didn’t say these guys were going to come over for a cup of coffee some afternoon,” he said.

He added Clinton is making a larger point.

“From what I heard, the point was, well, I wouldn’t do that because it might allow leaders like Hugo Chavez to score propaganda points,” he said. “I think that is absolutely wrong.”

He likened the position to a continuation of the Bush administration diplomatic policies. And he said what was “irresponsible and naive” was voting to authorize the Iraq War.

I gather from those comments that as long as there was an agenda for such meetings, he’d attend. Fair enough. But Hillary’s point was that beyond an agenda, diplomacy is a two way street. In other words “What’s in it for us?”

Atmospherics mean little when Iran is trying to bring the entire post World War II structure of alliances and relationships crashing down in order to drive America and the west out of the Middle East. Is there anything Iran can give us – or say anything that we’d believe – that would stop their march toward dominance? The optimists like Hillary would probably say yes. And I shudder to think what she’d be willing to trade for that.

I’d like to believe that Obama’s gaffe would hurt him in the primaries. But from what I’m reading today on lefty blogs, most think the controversy is a non-issue invented by Hillary or actually support the notion of an American president giving a boost to our enemies stature and legitimacy. Most often, the precedent of talking to the Russians comes up in response to foreign policy realists who object to talking to the Damascus Don or the Tehran Terror Enabler. But just what were the Soviets after in agreeing to all of those summits – which were years in planning and carefully scripted? Nothing less than recognition that they were an equal with the United States in superpower status. The fact that they had 25,000 nuclear weapons aimed at us made that a reality that had to be dealt with.

But what of pissant dictators like Chavez? Do we offer him the same stature building, the same legitimacy? What the hell for? No matter what he says, he can’t be trusted to stop trying to foment revolutions in Latin America. Ditto the Iranians and Syrians as far as trusting them to be good global citizens. (Cuba may not be a problem by November of 2008 and Kim may be in a Chinese box by then as well.)

What makes these countries enemies is their desire to damage the interests of the United States. There is nothing concrete that we could offer them that would change that goal. No matter how much spadework was done by our diplomats and envoys, the fact is we would be giving these cutthroats exactly what they want without getting anything of substance in return. Why both Hillary and Obama would even contemplate such meetings only shows that atmospherics will always mean more to the left than what can be accomplished in the real world. And despite talk of our “broken military” and our “waning influence” in the world, I guarantee you that such nonsense is not on the agenda of leadership meetings in Iran and Syria. Potential targets inside their country for American bombs is, however, at the top of the list.

In the end, it is that perception that will modify the behavior of Iran and Syria, not the smiling, good hearted entreaties of naive American presidents who think that because the voters of America found them irresistible that the brutes who wish us ill would similarly be charmed.

By: Rick Moran at 7:27 am
8 Responses to “OBAMA WILL SURRENDER MORE QUICKLY THAN HILLARY”
  1. 1
    Sirius Familiaris Said:
    8:00 am 

    No matter how much spadework was done by our diplomats and envoys, the fact is we would be giving these cutthroats exactly what they want without getting anything of substance in return.

    Isn’t this exactly what happened with the bogus nuclear non-proliferation treaty that the peanut farmer negotiated with the Norkos?

    Obama’s gaffe is simply reason #1,674,283 why Democrats can’t be trusted on issues of national security. They gladly kowtow to the most vile tyrants in the world and then somehow manage to convince themselves and their MSM lackeys that they’re elevating America’s status and reinforcing its leadership credentials.

  2. 2
    DoorHold Said:
    2:48 pm 

    Kind of validates my opinion on those two; Obama’s not experienced enough to be Presidential material (though he appeals to voters who prefer charisma to ability), while Hillary is (though I vehemently disagree with her politics).

    Where he’s naive, she’s savvy. While he speaks before thinking (then has to backtrack), she’s experienced enough to immediately spout the standard liberal gobbledygook (she can probably do it in her sleep).

  3. 3
    …gettingpaidtowatch » POLITICS/FOREIGNPOLICY: This Week’s Debate by the Democrat Candidates Reveals the Party’s Philosophical Weaknesses in Our Country’s Times of Peril Pinged With:
    3:37 pm 

    [...] More from Moran at his Right Wing Nut House.   Moran astutely points out the disasterous trip to Syria to meet with its terrorist paymester President Assad: the difference between genuine diplomacy and handing an opponent your head on a platter. Perhaps he should ask Nancy Pelosi, the highest ranking American leader to visit with President Bashar Assad of Syria in many years how well that kind of face to face diplomacy works. [...]

  4. 4
    ed Said:
    3:59 pm 

    Delete this too, coward. And to save you the effort, I have banned myself.

  5. 5
    Rick Moran Said:
    4:01 pm 

    Your comment and link was non germane to the post.

    Buh-bye.

  6. 6
    Joe Helgerson Said:
    9:10 pm 

    We negotiated with Russia in the 1980’s, Nixon flew to China, but Hillary and Obama are weak surrender monkeys because they want to negotiate with our enemies? Huh? I’m not saying kowtow to them, but whats wrong with a dialogue?Part of me thinks the gop presidential field is so weak that the only way they can win is to demonize the democrats. That didn’t work so well in 06 and I think it will work less well in 08.Bush is so low in the polls IMHO he will drag his party down with him. Also, if people think Hillary can be bullied like Kerry was in 04, that dog don’t hunt with her. The democrats have the funds, the majority of America and demonization WILL NOT WORK.

  7. 7
    DoorHold Said:
    11:26 am 

    “6Joe Helgerson Said:

    ... demonize the democrats …”

    I can’t even believe you said that. There’s a term for the irrational demonization of Bush, “Bush Derangement Syndrome.” Every conservative from actors to politicians is subjected to relentless demonization. Apparently demonization is a standard tool for both sides, and apparently it works well enough.

    As for the point about meeting with “enemies,” I partially agree (though there are vast differences between the countries involved and the situations we’re in then and now).

  8. 8
    YouTube Debate: Analysis and Punditry « The New Centrist Pinged With:
    1:26 pm 

    [...] For other perspectives see The Guardian and Rightwing Nuthouse. [...]

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