contact
Main
Contact Me

about
About RightWing NutHouse

Site Stats

blog radio



Amazon Honor System Click Here to Pay Learn More

testimonials

"Brilliant"
(Romeo St. Martin of Politics Watch-Canada)

"The epitome of a blogging orgasm"
(Cao of Cao's Blog)

"Rick Moran is one of the finest essayists in the blogosphere. ‘Nuff said. "
(Dave Schuler of The Glittering Eye)

archives
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004
September 2004

search



blogroll

A CERTAIN SLANT OF LIGHT
ABBAGAV
ACE OF SPADES
ALPHA PATRIOT
AM I A PUNDIT NOW
AMERICAN FUTURE
AMERICAN THINKER
ANCHORESS
AND RIGHTLY SO
ANDREW OLMSTED
ANKLEBITING PUNDITS
AREOPAGITICA
ATLAS SHRUGS
BACKCOUNTRY CONSERVATIVE
BASIL’S BLOG
BEAUTIFUL ATROCITIES
BELGRAVIA DISPATCH
BELMONT CLUB
BETSY’S PAGE
Blacksmiths of Lebanon
Blogs of War
BLUEY BLOG
BRAINSTERS BLOG
BUZZ MACHINE
CANINE PUNDIT
CAO’S BLOG
CAPTAINS QUARTERS
CATHOUSE CHAT
CHRENKOFF
CINDY SHEEHAN WATCH
Classical Values
Cold Fury
COMPOSITE DRAWLINGS
CONSERVATHINK
CONSERVATIVE THINK
CONTENTIONS
DAVE’S NOT HERE
DEANS WORLD
DICK McMICHAEL
Diggers Realm
DR. SANITY
E-CLAIRE
EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!
ELECTRIC VENOM
ERIC’S GRUMBLES BEFORE THE GRAVE
ESOTERICALLY.NET
FAUSTA’S BLOG
FLIGHT PUNDIT
FOURTH RAIL
FRED FRY INTERNATIONAL
GALLEY SLAVES
GATES OF VIENNA
HEALING IRAQ
http://blogcritics.org/
HUGH HEWITT
IMAO
INDEPUNDIT
INSTAPUNDIT
IOWAHAWK
IRAQ THE MODEL
JACKSON’S JUNCTION
JO’S CAFE
JOUST THE FACTS
KING OF FOOLS
LASHAWN BARBER’S CORNER
LASSOO OF TRUTH
LIBERTARIAN LEANINGS
LITTLE GREEN FOOTBALLS
LITTLE MISS ATTILA
LIVE BREATHE AND DIE
LUCIANNE.COM
MAGGIE’S FARM
MEMENTO MORON
MESOPOTAMIAN
MICHELLE MALKIN
MIDWEST PROGNOSTICATOR
MODERATELY THINKING
MOTOWN BLOG
MY VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY
mypetjawa
NaderNow
Neocon News
NEW SISYPHUS
NEW WORLD MAN
Northerncrown
OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY
PATRIOTIC MOM
PATTERICO’S PONTIFICATIONS
POLIPUNDIT
POLITICAL MUSINGS
POLITICAL TEEN
POWERLINE
PRO CYNIC
PUBLIUS FORUM
QUESTIONS AND OBSERVATIONS
RACE42008
RADICAL CENTRIST
Ravenwood’s Universe
RELEASE THE HOUNDS
RIGHT FROM LEFT
RIGHT VOICES
RIGHT WING NEWS
RIGHTFAITH
RIGHTWINGSPARKLE
ROGER L. SIMON
SHRINKRAPPED
Six Meat Buffet
Slowplay.com
SOCAL PUNDIT
SOCRATIC RYTHM METHOD
STOUT REPUBLICAN
TERRORISM UNVEILED
TFS MAGNUM
THE ART OF THE BLOG
THE BELMONT CLUB
The Conservative Cat
THE DONEGAL EXPRESS
THE LIBERAL WRONG-WING
THE LLAMA BUTCHERS
THE MAD PIGEON
THE MODERATE VOICE
THE PATRIETTE
THE POLITBURO DIKTAT
THE PRYHILLS
THE RED AMERICA
THE RESPLENDENT MANGO
THE RICK MORAN SHOW
THE SMARTER COP
THE SOAPBOX
THE STRATA-SPHERE
THE STRONG CONSERVATIVE
THE SUNNYE SIDE
THE VIVID AIR
THOUGHTS ONLINE
TIM BLAIR
TRANSATLANTIC INTELLIGENCER
TRANSTERRESTRIAL MUSINGS
TYGRRRR EXPRESS
VARIFRANK
VIKING PUNDIT
VINCE AUT MORIRE
VODKAPUNDIT
WALLO WORLD
WIDE AWAKES
WIZBANG
WUZZADEM
ZERO POINT BLOG


recentposts


CONSERVATIVES BEWITCHED, BOTHERED, AND BEWILDERED

WHY I NO LONGER ALLOW COMMENTS

IS JOE THE PLUMBER FAIR GAME?

TIME TO FORGET MCCAIN AND FIGHT FOR THE FILIBUSTER IN THE SENATE

A SHORT, BUT PIQUANT NOTE, ON KNUCKLEDRAGGERS

THE RICK MORAN SHOW: STATE OF THE RACE

BLACK NIGHT RIDERS TERRORIZING OUR POLITICS

HOW TO STEAL OHIO

IF ELECTED, OBAMA WILL BE MY PRESIDENT

MORE ON THOSE “ANGRY, RACIST GOP MOBS”

REZKO SINGING: OBAMA SWEATING?

ARE CONSERVATIVES ANGRIER THAN LIBERALS?

OBAMA IS NOT A SOCIALIST

THE NINE PERCENTERS

THE RICK MORAN SHOW: MCCAIN’S GETTYSBURG

AYERS-OBAMA: THE VOTERS DON’T CARE

THAT SINKING FEELING

A DEATH IN THE FAMILY

AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY INSANE: THE MOTHER OF ALL BIDEN GAFFES

PALIN PROVED SHE BELONGS

A FRIEND IN NEED

THE RICK MORAN SHOW: VP DEBATE PREVIEW

FAITH OF OUR FATHERS

‘Unleash’ Palin? Get Real

‘OUTRAGE FATIGUE’ SETTING IN


categories

"24" (96)
ABLE DANGER (10)
Bird Flu (5)
Blogging (200)
Books (10)
CARNIVAL OF THE CLUELESS (68)
Caucasus (1)
CHICAGO BEARS (32)
CIA VS. THE WHITE HOUSE (28)
Cindy Sheehan (13)
Decision '08 (290)
Election '06 (7)
Ethics (173)
Financial Crisis (8)
FRED! (28)
General (378)
GOP Reform (23)
Government (123)
History (166)
Homeland Security (8)
IMMIGRATION REFORM (21)
IMPEACHMENT (1)
Iran (81)
IRAQI RECONCILIATION (13)
KATRINA (27)
Katrina Timeline (4)
Lebanon (8)
Marvin Moonbat (14)
Media (184)
Middle East (134)
Moonbats (80)
NET NEUTRALITY (2)
Obama-Rezko (14)
OBAMANIA! (73)
Olympics (5)
Open House (1)
Palin (6)
PJ Media (37)
Politics (651)
Presidential Debates (7)
RNC (1)
S-CHIP (1)
Sarah Palin (1)
Science (45)
Space (21)
Sports (2)
SUPER BOWL (7)
Supreme Court (24)
Technology (1)
The Caucasus (1)
The Law (14)
The Long War (7)
The Rick Moran Show (127)
UNITED NATIONS (15)
War on Terror (330)
WATCHER'S COUNCIL (117)
WHITE SOX (4)
Who is Mr. Hsu? (7)
Wide Awakes Radio (8)
WORLD CUP (9)
WORLD POLITICS (74)
WORLD SERIES (16)


meta

Admin Login
Register
Valid XHTML
XFN







credits


Design by:


Hosted by:


Powered by:
5/12/2005
BUCHANAN JUMPS THE SHARK
CATEGORY: Media

In some ways, Pat Buchanan is big media’s favorite conservative. He’s brash. He speaks his mind. And he has an awful tendency to put his foot in his mouth thus totally discrediting conservative positions.

In short, big media gets to kill two birds with one stone; they get an entertaining talking head as well as a ready made Bogey man to represent eeeevil conservatives.

A few years back, Pat made a rather innocuous point about the difference between Hitler’s death camps like Auschwitz and concentration camps like Mauthausen that landed him in hot water with the liberal media and branded him as a “holocaust denier.” The point being that inhabitants of concentration camps had a chance at survival in that they were more likely to be worked to death rather than executed outright. This is true as far as it goes, although in the closing days of the war, Himmler had a list with 10,000 high profile names of inmates at concentration camps who he ordered executed before the fall of the Third Reich. Thankfully, the Americans were advancing so quickly in the closing days of the war that many on the list survived simply because there was no time to execute them.

Now Mr. Buchanan has taken on the legacy of Yalta, where Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill ostensibly divided the European continent between the Soviets and the West thus betraying our war aims of freeing all of Europe from oppression. It’s times like this that Buchanan betrays himself for what he is; a mossback conservative, a throw back to the 1950’s paranoids who opposed the formation of the United Nations, our joining NATO, and any other idea that did not conform to the “fortress America” position on foreign policy. This isolationist strain of conservatism in the Republican party is often referred to as the “Robert Taft wing” of the party.

Taft was a Senator from Ohio, son of President William Howard Taft whose name was magic for a generation of Republicans who opposed the New Deal and foreign entanglements of any kind. It was a quaint kind of republicanism that supported the concept of isolationism because America was too good, too pure to sully its hands by mixing it up with peoples in foreign lands. Contrast that with today’s old/new left’s isolationism that seeks to withdraw from the world because America is too evil to engage the rest of the planet and must beg forgiveness for all of our sins, bother real and imagined.

Buchanan’s reading of Yalta and the consequences of that momentous conference is laughable. He takes President Bush’s speech in Riga this past week where the President condemned Soviet occupation of the Baltic states totally out of context:

If Yalta was a betrayal of small nations as immoral as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, why do we venerate Churchill and FDR? At Yalta, this pair secretly ceded those small nations to Stalin, co-signing a cynical “Declaration on Liberated Europe” that was a monstrous lie.

As FDR and Churchill consigned these peoples to a Stalinist hell run by a monster they alternately and affectionately called “Uncle Joe” and “Old Bear,” why are they not in the history books alongside Neville Chamberlain, who sold out the Czechs at Munich by handing the Sudetenland over to Germany? At least the Sudeten Germans wanted to be with Germany. No Christian peoples of Europe ever embraced their Soviet captors or Stalinist quislings.

First of all, the President didn’t call Yalta “immoral” he called Soviet occupation of eastern Europe immoral. The President criticized Yalta as Roosevelt’s contemporaries criticized it: it was at best an expediency, a recognition that there was no way to get Soviet troops to go home once the war was over.

Secondly, where in the wide, wide, world of sports did Buchanan ever get the idea that the Sudeten Germans “wanted to be with Germany?” This was Nazi propaganda that Buchanan has evidently swallowed whole. The problem was that the Sudetenland was composed not only of Germans but of Czechs, Slovenes, Moravians, with a smattering of other minorities and that even a majority of Sudeten Germans had no desire to join the Reich. Hitler’s propaganda machine spun bloodcurdling tales of atrocities committed against the German minority that even Chamberlain took as gospel and which the master appeaser partially used as an excuse to cave in to Hitler’s demands.

Buchanan should know better.

Mr. Buchanan then posits the notion that because the peoples of eastern Europe traded one dictatorship under Hitler for another under Stalin that the west in fact lost World War II:

Other questions arise. If Britain endured six years of war and hundreds of thousands of dead in a war she declared to defend Polish freedom, and Polish freedom was lost to communism, how can we say Britain won the war?

If the West went to war to stop Hitler from dominating Eastern and Central Europe, and Eastern and Central Europe ended up under a tyranny even more odious, as Bush implies, did Western Civilization win the war?

At bottom, World War II was a war of survival. That was the war aim for all western powers; to survive as sovereign, independent nations. Anything else was gravy. France and Britain’s guarantee of Polish sovereignty was a recognition that their own survival was at stake not necessarily an end in and of itself. The mutual defense pact France had with Poland was meant as a deterrent to German aggression. In the end, neither France nor England was able to send one single soldier to defend Poland against the German attack. And for Buchanan to say that Polish “freedom” was “lost to communism” is just plain wrong. Pre World War II Poland was a military dictatorship as harsh as any government imposed on the Poles following the war by Stalin. The fact that the west restored Polish sovereignty only to be thwarted by Stalin’s designs does not negate the accomplishment of the allies’ defeat of the German empire.

Finally, Buchanan asks if the war was worth the sacrifice in blood and treasure and then really jumps the shark when he says the German people didn’t deserve to be liberated because “they voted Hitler in:”

When one considers the losses suffered by Britain and France – hundreds of thousands dead, destitution, bankruptcy, the end of the empires – was World War II worth it, considering that Poland and all the other nations east of the Elbe were lost anyway?

If the objective of the West was the destruction of Nazi Germany, it was a “smashing” success. But why destroy Hitler? If to liberate Germans, it was not worth it. After all, the Germans voted Hitler in

.

The entire thrust of the first statement presupposes that France and England had a choice about going to war against Hitler. This is nuts. Buchanan has said in the past that the United States had no need to fight Hitler because, after all, Hitler never attacked us. All one can say about these statements is that they’re extraordinarily short sighted and myopic. There wasn’t a thinking person alive in the west during the summer of 1939 who didn’t realize that Hitler was not going to stop, that an attack on Poland was a prelude to an attack on Germany’s arch rival France (at which point one assumes Buchanan would grant the French permission to defend themselves) and that Britain, in order to protect itself, would surely come to the aid of the French. In short, despite desperate efforts to avoid it, those last weeks of August in 1939 pointed toward a general European war. France and Britain assumed Russia would join them in the fight against Hitler but ended up underestimating the cynicism of Hitler and the greed of Stalin.

As for Hitler being “voted in” by the German people, perhaps Mr. Buchanan should stop surfing neo-Nazi web sites and read a history book or two. Hitler lost the Presidential election in 1932 by a wide margin to incumbent President Hindenburg. Only by shady maneuvering with other conservative and nationalistic parties was Hitler able to be named Chancellor, an unelected position appointed by the President. Hitler then used the fire at the Reichstag building to declare a state of emergency and using the full power of the state, conducted a referendum on his decision that passed overwhelmingly.

Saying that the German people supported Hitler is one thing. That came later, after he threw off the shackles of Versailles, reoccupied the Rhineland, and the Anschluss with Austria. But to say that Hitler was voted into office is just plain wrong.

Once again with this article Buchanan proves that his brand of conservatism does not reflect the thinking of either a majority of Americans or conservatives in general. And his constant problems with foot in mouth disease is an embarrassment both to himself and the conservative movement.

UPDATE

Ace quotes WF Buckley who says Buchanan is an anti-semite:

As William F. Buckley concluded in a long essay on Pat way back in the late eighties (I think), Buchanan takes a number of positions, each of which seems defensible on its face, and yet, taking them all together, the cumulative impression is that he just hates Jews.

Pat is a traditional Catholic and I know is galled that people think him anti-semitic. I think part of the ruckus over Pat is that he grates on some people and therefore it’s easy to take what he says out of context. The quote on concentration camps is one example that comes to mind. In that case, Buchanan was making the same point made by many scholars of the holocaust – that Nazi’s intentionally inflated the numbers of dead in concentration camps to please Himmler. Why that was taken to mean that Pat was a holocaust denier I have no idea.

Then there’s Pat’s distress over “Zionism” and how our foreign policy is tilted toward Israel in the middle east. Pat thinks it’s not in the national interest to always support Israel. Many times, Pat uses the rhetoric and even the very words of Israel’s mortal enemies to criticize the Jewish nation.

While Pat tries to draw a distinction between Jews and Zionism, there are so few Jews today who do not support the idea of a Jewish homeland that it seems to me foolish to try and seperate the two.

And that may be Pat’s biggest problem: He’s just a fool.

AND STEPHEN GREEN IS BACK! HE IS! HE TRULY IS!

No one does a full frontal fisking like the Drunkmeister himself who after a short blogging hiatus is back at it with a vengance. READ THE WHOLE THING.

UPDATE II

John Hawkins defends Buchanan not for what he said but for what people are calling him; a Nazi apologist and anti-semite:

However, to call him a “Nazi Apologist” or “anti-Semite” because he believes the US should have stayed out of WW2 is ridiculous since Buchanan is just being consistent. He’s a Paleocon, he’s an isolationist, and as an isolationist, he’s just being consistent when he says we should have stayed out of WW2.

Cross Posted at Blogger News Network

By: Rick Moran at 6:46 am
9 Responses to “BUCHANAN JUMPS THE SHARK”
  1. 1
    Sue Dohnim Said:
    7:36 am 

    Pat does love him some good Mein Kampf, I guar-ron-tee!

  2. 2
    Jay Said:
    9:02 am 

    Great post! Pat does stick his foot in his mouth way too often.

  3. 3
    basil's blog Trackbacked With:
    11:33 am 

    Lunch: 5/12/2005
    Try one of these specials with your lunch: Life After York finds bias in the Canadian media. The Oubliette gave a cat a bath. WuzzaDem has a life. Conservative Cat has thoughts abour emergency plans. Right Wing Nut House finds

  4. 4
    MyFreePress.com Trackbacked With:
    12:45 pm 

    BUCHANAN JUMPS THE SHARK
    The poorly named Blog Right Wing Nut House

  5. 5
    NIF Trackbacked With:
    4:38 pm 

    Gardener of The Ridiculous Army
    Today’s dose of NIF - News, Interesting & Funny … It’s Stop the ACLU Thursday! … NIF limited blogation rules in effect; so it’s a comment+trackback fiesta!

  6. 6
    Aakash Said:
    6:52 pm 

    National Review defended Pat Buchanan when he ran for President in 1992, and William F. Buckley sympathized with his candidacy. In 1999, Buckley defended Pat from criticism over his views on WWII. Here is the pertinent Buckley column.

  7. 7
    insurance quotes Trackbacked With:
    7:20 pm 

    insurance quotes

    em:liberated how hugely viewpoints microfilms!life insurance http://life-insurance.ours-insurance.com/

  8. 8
    car Trackbacked With:
    12:29 am 

    car

    AUTONET009911

  9. 9
    cake short skirt lohan skirt Trackbacked With:
    5:34 pm 

    cake short skirt lohan skirt

    0naoper000

RSS feed for comments on this post.

The URI to Trackback this entry:
http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2005/05/12/buchanan-jumps-the-shark/trackback/

Leave a comment