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2/26/2006
ABOUT THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE…
CATEGORY: Ethics

What happens to a society when it makes a conscious, reasoned choice that some of its members – the weakest and least able to defend themselves – don’t deserve to live?

In the classical western societies of Greece and Rome, it was considered the duty of parents to kill their own children if they were considered too weak or sickly to contribute. While we would consider this barbaric today (would we?), the reasons were sound. A deformed or sickly child would be a drain on scarce resources that would be better used to keep the rest of the family alive.

The only thing worse that I could imagine a parent having to go through than murdering their own child would be if the State, against their most devout wishes, did the job for them:

The parents of Charlotte Wyatt have been told that doctors are to be allowed to let their profoundly ill baby daughter die if they feel it is in her best interests. A High Court judge yesterday lifted a previous ruling that she should always be resuscitated, on the grounds that the two-year-old was now on a “downward rather than an upward trend”.

Mr Justice Hedley heard an emergency application from doctors treating her that she had developed an aggressive chest infection and was unlikely to survive any moves to keep her alive.

“Medical evidence speaks with one voice, that ventilation simply will not achieve the end for which no doubt the parents would wish,” he said. Charlotte’s condition was said to be “deteriorating” last night. Her mother, Debbie, 24, from Portsmouth, still believes that if her daughter were ventilated she would recover.

But Mr Justice Hedley said there had been a “very significant deterioration in Charlotte’s condition”. It is the fifth time he has had to make a ruling about Charlotte’s treatment.

Doctors at St Mary’s Hospital, Portsmouth, had previously argued that her life was so intolerable that if her condition worsened they should be allowed to withhold treatment. Charlotte suffers from severe lung, brain and kidney damage. But her condition improved so much that last October the judge removed a ruling allowing doctors to let her die.

(HT: Michelle Malkin)

Her condition improved to the point last October that she was able to go home for a couple of weeks and live with her parents without any assistance from medical personnel. The child then developed a chest cold and has been re-hospitalized, a place where parents would normally expect doctors to act as healers and not Angels of Death.

But this is 21st century Europe. And the socialized medical systems that look upon humans as numbers on a chart rather than living, breathing, laughing, cuddling, thinking beings simply can’t tolerate an individual hogging more than their fair share of medical resources to stay alive. Best put the beast down, pat the parents on the head, and tell them to run along and not bother them with their silly notions of parental love and responsibility.

Welcome to the Brave New World.

I wish I could say I was surprised by this kind of thing but ever since it was revealed a year ago that Doctors in Holland had developed procedures for terminating the lives of infants who they considered unworthy of expending the time and resources in trying to save, this kind of outrage is simply the next logical step in the dehumanization of society’s fringe players, those who the godlike purveyors of medical wisdom have determined would be better off dead.

John Hinderaker’s words written at the time the Groningen story broke still haunt me:

“For most of my life, I thought that philosophers could generate intellectual systems, independent of religious belief, that would, on a strictly rational basis, reproduce all of the essentials of the 20th century system that has worked well for this country. I no longer believe that to be the case. It seems appallingly clear, now, that the secular path—the road that has been taken by the Netherlands and almost all of western Europe—leads inexorably to the view that men and women are cattle, and the only reasonable approach is to appoint a committee of wise men to decide when it is time for them to die.”

In actuality, the Groningen Protocols as they became known, were not a set of guidelines designed to help in the decision making process to end an infants life. The Protocols were written to keep doctors out of jail. They were developed by lawyers so that doctors could stay one step ahead of the prosecutor in cases where children up to 12 years old were determined (in consultation with parents) to be either “incurable” or whose “quality of life” was such that they didn’t deserve to live.

Not that there would be much chance of a doctor anywhere in the socialized health care paradise of Europe being clapped in irons for not wasting medical resources on marginal, helpless human beings. It used to be that doctors were lionized for saving lives. Now they’re feted for saving money.

Those of us who argued during what became the Terri Schiavo circus that we were witnessing a “slippery slope” where against the wishes of a loved one, a human life could be terminated were called all sorts of names by those on the other side. “Hysterics” and “religious nuts” were two of the milder epithets directed against those of us who saw the fight to save Terri as a fight to preserve the dignity and value of all human life. Since then, I have come to see many arguments made by those on the other side as heartfelt and sincere as mine.

However, in the end, I thought that their biggest blind spot was in the probablity that it was a short step from Terri’s situation to what we are witnessing in Britain right now; the efforts by the medical community to take it upon themselves to decide – against the heartfelt wishes of a loving parent – to terminate the life of someone who, while gravely ill, nevertheless has battled courageously, clinging to life against all the odds.

The fact that many two year olds would have succumbed already is proof that whatever spark of humanity in this child, whatever level of awareness, whatever glimmer of understanding exists in the damaged brain of this little girl, it is directed toward a fierce, unbending determination to live. For that reason alone, she deserves every opportunity to do so.

My friend Raven, a medical professional who works with the profoundly disabled, is someone I always turn to on issues like this. Raven’s practical experience in dealing with all the end-of-life issues raised by Charlotte’s case as well as others gives her a special kind of authority that demands our attention. Commenting on remarks written by Charlotte’s mother (she has a website here) about what she’s been told by the doctors, Raven cuts to the heart of the matter:

Have to be allowed to die”- what a statement. Is this humane? Has this child asked to be “allowed” to die? Disabled children get sick more often than non-disabled, but that is not an excuse for state sanctioned murder. I have to wonder, as I always do, is this more about the costs associated with “maintaining” a life that so many deem not worthy of living.

[...]

Society should be ashamed. Ashamed that this barbaric policy is considered progressive.

I challenge everyone to go visit a child who has disabilites. Visit for awhile and tell me: Does this human being need to die? Is this human being’s life SO bad, so awful, that we must end this life? Are we so sure we KNOW what a quality life is that we can determine that another human has to die? Or should die? I’ve worked with thousands of these kids and I can say, without any hesitation, that every single child had a life worth living; they laugh, they smile, they cry, they touch, they communicate (not always with a voice, but they communicate). They learn to compensate for their disabilities and it’s amazing to watch how they manage. Often these kids grow up to be so much stronger, emotionally, than any of us could ever hope to be. And they don’t live with horrid pain and discomfort. THAT is such a LIE. And every doctor knows it. Charlotte deserves to live.

Read Raven’s entire article. She has, without a doubt, the most unique perspective on these issues I’ve seen.

How have we reached the point where a case like Charlotte’s is possible? Here are some thoughts I had on the Groningen Protocols and how it is only going to get easier to throw away human beings as if they were worthless bags of bones:

If the purpose of these protocols is mainly to keep doctors who practice euthanasia out of jail, who then speaks for the little ones? Who would stand up to a parent and say “There’s no reason to euthanize your child, the condition is treatable. Yes, it will cause problems and inconvenience in your life but this is what you signed on for when you decided to become a parent.”

The answer is no one will be there. And one more step into the darkness will have been taken.

But don’t worry, it’ll be easier next time. And the next. Until there are so many “special cases” and “unique situations” that it will be difficult to differentiate between killing for mercy and killing for convenience. In the end, it doesn’t matter much does it? The people affected are just as dead.

I am open to opposing views on this case. I really would like someone to tell me that I’m being hysterical by talking about “slippery slopes.” I really hope someone can explain why what is happening to Charlotte is a good and necessary thing.

Maybe after telling me, you could look Charlotte’s mother in the eye and tell her the same thing.

By: Rick Moran at 9:27 am
50 Responses to “ABOUT THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE…”
  1. 1
    Raven Said:
    10:24 am 

    It’s so sad that people are not being educated about the true conditions being written about. It is also sad that this culture of death is being embraced by so many. Is it about people wanting to control their own destiny? If so, why control the destiny of another human being?? If this keeps up, there won’t be any humans left because in the end we ALL have some sort of problem- health related or not. We ALL experience pain and suffering at different times in our lives. I hate to think that someone could chose my destiny just because I wasn’t getting proper medical care; this case proves to me beyond ANY doubt that the medical community has failed it’s patients.

  2. 2
    Pammy Said:
    10:53 am 

    Does anyone remember the movie 1973 sci-fi movie “Soylent Green” with Charlton Heston? The plot seemed far-fetched at the time, but may have been more prescient than anyone ever imagined. The drift toward acceptance of euthanasia as a “dignified” death that was on display with Terri Shivo, could conveniently accelerate in the next few years as a burgeoning aging population strains the limited resources of the country. Being 53, I find the thought chilling.

  3. 3
    George Jones Said:
    11:51 am 

    Nice to see the right putting down their Guantanamo Jumper Cables long enough to sob briefly about the sanctity of the human condition.

    Of course, and as anyone who has read this site before can attest, the concern here is extremely selective and usually has something to do with the GOP political agenda.

    OK, now let’s get back to Iraq:

    Iraq Theocracy Watch: The Bush Administration’s Campaign to Establish Islamic Theocracy in Iraq.

    Half a trillion dollars and 10s of thousands of American casualties, all so Theran can at long last gain control of Iraq.

    If only the lives of our enlisted men were as precious to the Bushies as your knocked-up unmarried sister’s foetus.

    http://www.brucegourley.com/iraqtheocracy/

  4. 4
    Tom the Redhunter Said:
    12:48 pm 

    “Does anyone remember the movie 1973 sci-fi movie “Soylent Green” with Charlton Heston?”

    Oh yes, and I had exactly the reaction you did when I saw it. I’d forgotten about that movie, but I do believe you have a very good point. It’s not as philosophical as a “Brave New World”, but the point it makes seems more relevant as time goes on.

    Odd, isn’t it, that we live in a society that treasures safety uber alles, some are ready to cast off the disabled as yesterday’s garbage?

    Perhaps, trollGeorge Jones, you ought to consider that it is the left’s insistence on abortion-on-demand which has created this mentality, rather than ranting on about some theocracy you think Bush is trying to create in Iraq.

  5. 5
    The MaryHunter Said:
    1:03 pm 

    George, you must think an awful lot of yourself and your elitist relative humanistic weltanschauung to seriously believe you can redirect this “Culture of Death” issue into some Hate-America-First tirade against our efforts in Iraq. Just what was going on there during Saddam’s regime, bud? It couldn’t have been state-sponsored murder bordering on genocide, could it? What would still be happening to poor, innocent Iraqi men, women and children by the thousands? But, I guess you’ve forgotten the mass graves and Saddam’s own jumper-cabled torture chambers, eh?

    I’m sure you’d be welcome over at KOS or DU, who now are probably giddy over the nearing state-sponsored demise of Charlotte Wyatt.

    Which brings me back to the discussion at hand. Rick, once again you paint a clear picture of the profoundly disturbing Left and their aims to engineer our society to their own “ideals” from cradle to grave… and all things equal, the sooner the grave comes for some, the better, ay? This, from the ideology of “equality” and “free speech” and “standing up for the little guy.” Poor Charlotte is just too imperfect to be “equal”, too imperfect to allow her “speech” to have any worth, too imperfect to be counted as one of the “little guys.”

    I’m sure you’d be welcome over at KOS or DU, who now are probably chattering with glee over the nearing state-sponsored demise of Charlotte Wyatt.

    Which brings me back to the discussion at hand. Rick, once again you paint a clear picture of the profoundly disturbing Left and their aims to engineer our society to their own “ideals” from cradle to grave… and all things equal, the sooner the grave comes for some, the better, ay? This, from the ideology of “equality” and “free speech” and “standing up for the little guy.” Poor Charlotte is just too imperfect to be “equal”, too imperfect to allow her “speech” to have any worth, too imperfect to be counted as one of the “little guys.”

  6. 6
    The MaryHunter Said:
    1:06 pm 

    Um, I guess I really wanted to make my last point, eh? (sorry about the duplication!)

  7. 7
    BizzyBlog.com Trackbacked With:
    1:34 pm 

    This Weekend’s Unanswered Question 2: On Baby Charlotte, Euthanasia and Socialized Medicine

    QUESTION 2: Why don’t people see what can happen to control over their lives and the lives of their loved ones in government-run health care?
    From the UK, the slippery-slope march continues (HT S.O.B. Alliance Member Large Bill):

    Girl, 2, &#...

  8. 8
    George Jones Said:
    1:43 pm 

    Here’s the thing that I find so amusing about you kooky kons. We have a president who took us to war on the most dubious of reasons and through sheer incompetence has for all intents and purposes lost it, one who has indebted us to the Communist Chinese and other less than friendly economic rivals to the tune of trillions, while allowing the Federal govt to expand like no other president has before. All the while apparently allowing some of the most egregiously corrupt plundering of the public trust since, well, the country began.

    And still so-called conservatives hang on to him like he was their own sweet mother. Which is fine with me. With the increasingly reviled George W. Bush as the Dear Leader Poster Boy of the Right, the collapse of your apparently phony revolution is only a matter of time.

    But why the cultish loyalty to this inept disaster of a president? Only thing I can figure is it must be the Marlboro Man get up. It makes you folks feel like somebody strong and handsome loves them.

  9. 9
    Stop The ACLU Trackbacked With:
    1:46 pm 

    Pray For Baby Charlotte

    Hat Tip: Pro-Life Blogs
    Is this the direction America is headed? Is this where the ACLU, and the “right to die” folks will take us? In England, a judge has ruled for doctors to withold life support from a two-year old, brain damaged chi…

  10. 10
    kender Said:
    2:10 pm 

    georgieporgie, your lack of a grasp of the reasons behind the GWOT notwithstanding, (and I refuse to go into them as I am fairly certain that one as close minded and simplistic as you couldn’t possibly grasp the strategy behind it anyway), your disconnect between understanding the difference between an ill, but innocent child and enemy combatants highlight the left’s utter contempt for the actual sanctity of life and their falied, and despicable stance of hate bush above all.

    The mere fact that you would join the asshats that concern themselves with the lives of those that would see us destroyed above that of an innocent child causes me to fervently wish you the most vile case of an infestation of your nether regions by whatever lovely creature your significant other has brought home from his day job servicing your cities finest pervs and cretins.

  11. 11
    Duncan Avatar Said:
    2:17 pm 

    George,

    You posts are like 10 lbs of bullsh!t in a 5lb bag. You hang on to the Bush Lied mantra and probably repeat it over and over in your mind till it becomes truth in your own perverted little liberal utopia and then you talk about the Communist Chinese and some supposed tie to GW? Clinton/Gore anyone? Stop giving passes to your own liberal hackjobs. Nothing pisses me off than pure partisan politcs that blind. As far as spending, I would agree that Bush is spending too much. Welfare and other social programs that are failing need to be revamped or replaced. The Great Society and War on Poverty has been a failure indeed, stop wasting our tax dollars.

    Oh crap.. did i just feed the troll who has hijacked this discussion thread. Bad duncan! BAD BAD!

  12. 12
    George Jones Said:
    2:22 pm 

    Kender: Of course you’re lying here. My expressed concern was for our troops, not the terrorists. That you have to fall back on something as idiotically simplistic and transparent as that speaks volumes about mental challenges you must face on a daily basis.

    But speaking about aiding and abetting terrorism and the enemy in general, how about that ports deal Bush set us up with? Imagine, the financiers of Osama bin Laden getting control of our ports.

    You want to find someone who is siding with america’s enemies? Look no farther than the White House.

    Of course, as the brown-nosing Bush apologist you are, I’m sure you have lots of excuses for that as well.

  13. 13
    George Jones Said:
    2:31 pm 

    Dunkie: On a bobblehead site like this one, any opinion other than the one you’ve learned to repeat would appear to be trolling.

    Besides, Clinton and Gore balanced the budget. Bush and his fiscal bitches in the GOP Porky Pig Congress borrows and spends like a crackwhore with their John’s stolen VISA card.

  14. 14
    DL Said:
    2:46 pm 

    George

    I’m just curious how many anti war diatribes you wrote when Billy boy was throwing our military might around the planet?

    I thought so!

  15. 15
    George Jones Said:
    2:50 pm 

    DL: That you believe Clinton’s actions somehow absolve Bush of responsibility for his many failures is comical to me.

    Not big on the irony thing, eh?

  16. 16
    VirtueBlog » Blog Archive » Some things are so profoundly wrong . . . Pinged With:
    3:00 pm 

    [...] Right Wing Nuthouse has some excellent thoughts, as does Conservative Culture, who writes: [...]

  17. 17
    George Jones Said:
    3:10 pm 

    Ah well, this was fun. It is always good to take a few minutes to remind oneself just what a witless bunch of numbnuts make up that vast wasteland known as the Bobblehead Blog Right.

    Now here’s an irony for you: I promised the missus I’d help her out by taking our kids to the park this afternoon. How many of you so-called defenders of the weak and helpless here actually have children? My bet is not a single wanking one.

    Which is fine with me. Your lack of any contribution to the human gene pool can only help to strengthen the species.

    Darwin is right: The weak die out.

  18. 18
    Rick Moran Said:
    3:36 pm 

    George:

    Thank you for visiting.

    I can tell this is your first time here. The fact that you are unaware that I am an atheist shows that. It also shows in your belief that I belong to some kind of cult of Bush. A cursory glance (that would have taken about 30 seconds of your time) at many of my posts would show that I skewer Bush about any number of things here to the point that many conservatives will not visit this site anymore.

    But you were to busy leaving some of the most ignorant, nauseating, and laughably stupid comments I’ve seen in a long time.

    In short, you’re hopeless.

  19. 19
    CatHouse Chat Trackbacked With:
    3:50 pm 

    Save Charlotte!!

    I’m back visiting with my parents this week, so blogging will be light, but everyone needs to go read what my blog-brother, Rick Moran posts About the Slippery Slope…, my blog-sister Raven posts Charlotte might always be a disabled child,

  20. 20
    The MaryHunter Said:
    4:22 pm 

    Don’t knock him, Rick—he was a fun troll. Such insipid, short-sighted, Kool-aid-sipping brain droppings as I haven’t seen in quite a very long while.

    Oh, Georgie, FYI: I do believe I read somewhere recently that it is the US conservatives these days who have a higher repro rate than you moonbat libs. Thank GOD for that. You believe you know us, and yet ye be decieved, and mightily so.

    You can moonbeam yourself into oblivion for all I care, but I and my precious children will indeed pray for your kids, that they somehow get out from under your moral-relativist-elitist-liberal brainwashing one day and persevere as morally upstanding individuals. Heck, we’ll even pray that you, one day, come to see the error of your ways.

  21. 21
    Cao Said:
    4:40 pm 

    I’m sorry to say, TMH, but that would probably never happen. This insipid odious vacuous arguments, the breathtaking generalizations about us ‘cons’ ...as Rick said, he skewers Bush about any number of issues as do I. I don’t think there’s a single one of us who consider W a president without faults. Recently I’ve been reviewing his support of the Taliban WHILE OUR TROOPS WERE FIGHTING THEM in 2001-2002.

    But the issue here is not the WoT or any number of other things that Georgie porgie brings up—
    It’s about the sanctity of life and protecting the innocent. Raven’s comments as always are extremely eloquent and she’s a health care professional who’s seen these things up close and personal—and witnessed some of these deaths, and has reported about them in agonizing detail.

    The only conclusion I can arrive at is people who don’t acknowledge these sweet beings as worthy of life are cold and heartless…and they also seem to talk about the lying terrorist head hackers as ‘freedom fighters’. Extremely odd and pathetic, that.

  22. 22
    Ogre Said:
    4:45 pm 

    Bush Lied! People Died!

    Oh, sorry, that wasn’t what this post was about? Well then come read my blog because I’m wonderful.

    Sorry folks, I’m just trying to post comments on a level that George Jones might comprehend because he’s clearly a drive-by who is utterly incapable of reading comprehension or talking about the actual post.

    I’m guessing he might not even be capable of reading and is just copy-and-pasting comments from KOS.

  23. 23
    Don Surber Trackbacked With:
    4:59 pm 

    Baby Charlotte And The Man Who Survived A Pulled P

    They pulled the plug on Brian Paolo and … 10 days later gave his daughter away at her wedding. Money quote from the daughter:

  24. 24
    Raven Said:
    6:42 pm 

    Heh…Rick and I talked about how the looney left would react to this…we figured they would either ignore this or twist it into some “Oh but the pain she must be in…” bull. I forgot the other tactic so favored by liberals: CHANGE the SUBJECT.

    George chimes:
    “Nice to see the right putting down their Guantanamo Jumper Cables long enough to sob briefly about the sanctity of the human condition.”

    You’re a tool.
    Bobblehead??? Let’s talk about that George.
    Bobbleheads use the same themes in every instance- their rhetoric never changes. Like here; the post is about an innocent child whose life could be on the line and what do YOU do with this?? You bring up anti Bush, anti war crap. Sure sounds like YOU care about life. Sure sounds like you’re using jumper cables to your best advantage. Don’t talk about sobbing- you don’t know how. People like you value death. Abortion, “assisted suicide”, ethanasia- yep, we know you’re lot. BUT that’s what bobbleheads do…go on and on repeating the talking points. Meanwhile, Charlotte’s life is on the line.

    What do you have to say about it George????

  25. 25
    kender Said:
    6:47 pm 

    George is a tool raven, he won’t pop back in here without some body armor and a good dose of durrrgghh

  26. 26
    GM Roper Said:
    6:58 pm 

    This post started out as a protest against euthanasia and ended up with a certain George Jones converting this into an argument regarding Bush, the war and other leftwing nonsense. I’m curious as to why Mr. Jones would want to do that?

    Surely, bashing the thoughts of others is not worth the effort to come to someones blog and be deliberately offensive? Surely, Mr. Jones would not like to have his child threatened with termination as has been done to Charlottes parents.

    Surely Mr. Jones doesn’t really believe the “putting down their Guantanamo Jumper Cables” bullshit (pardon my use of foul language Rick, I could correct it, but it seems apropos at this time).

    Perhaps Mr. Jones believed that the Koran was flushed in Gitmo. Perhaps he believes that the admitted torture in Abu Ghraib was systemic and directed by the president as a policy of the United states as opposed to the actions of some admittedly sick individuals who deserve their punishment. Perhaps Mr. Jones was neglected by his kindergarten teacher who happened to be a Republican. Who knows. At any rate, Perhaps Mr. Jones has the ability to think rationally, but I’ve yet to see any evidence of that.

  27. 27
    Raven Said:
    7:36 pm 

    GM, Kender:
    The tactic of changing the issue/subject is typical of liberals. They resort to this when they have nothing to say…no argument…no defense…

    Like I said…Charlotte is the issue here and so typical of a liberal- they just don’t CARE. But they are the first one’s to whine when conservatives speak up (and we get called Bible Thumpers!! among other things). It’s a sad state really.

  28. 28
    George Jones Said:
    8:52 pm 

    Ohhh, the ladies all came out from behind mommy’s skirts after I left.

    Moran? You’re an atheist?

    Wow. Am I like, supposed to care, man?

  29. 29
    kender Said:
    9:00 pm 

    What? What “ladies” are these georgiepogiepuddinghead? Raven? Yeah, she’s a chick, and a better American, Patriot and human than you, but then I’ve seen slime molds that fit that description.

    You are still a coward of the highest order.

  30. 30
    George Jones Said:
    9:07 pm 

    Kender: Ohh, ain’t you just the roughest little lady of them all?

    Please tell me the part where I’m supposed to give half a shit for your idiotic opinions.

  31. 31
    kender Said:
    9:19 pm 

    I never said you needed to give a shit. Nobody here gives a shit about your little lefty talking points…in fact I am simply seeing how many times you will continue to respond and continue proving what an ass you are…..so far you are hanging tough as one of the hardiest and hardheaded trolls around here in a long time….care to continue that streak, felcher?

  32. 32
    George Jones Said:
    9:25 pm 

    KenDoll: You’re a laughable ass. Just like the rest of the reactionary clowns on this thread.

    The majority of which are most likely just a bunch of old 50 something losers who did too many drugs back in the hippy days.

  33. 33
    Raven Said:
    9:30 pm 

    George, now you’re pissing me off. I don’t come out from under anyone’s skirt. I speak for myself. You’re the coward and a typical one at that. Speak directly to me or shut the hell up (sorry Rick..language goes down hill from here on out. LOL)

    And you still haven’t said a WORD, not ONE word, about Charlotte. You obviously care about others opinions or you wouldn’t keep coming back here.

  34. 34
    George Jones Said:
    9:35 pm 

    Raven: Gawd, do you take lesson in boring or something?

    What is it about this blog and the “rough tough creampuff” complex? You all want to be so hard, and you just come off as empty bags of hot wind.

  35. 35
    George Jones Said:
    9:40 pm 

    By the way, girls, tomorrow’s Wall Street Journal poll will show the Kennebunkport Chickenhawk Cowboy’s approval number falls to 34%.

    Isn’t it time for you gutless wonders to start acting like you never REALLY supported him?

  36. 36
    kender Said:
    9:47 pm 

    Welcome back felcher….if you come here lookingfor slavish Bush idoltry you are in the wrong spot….but then anyone that can comprehend what they read would know that so it is little wonder that your continue to fling your drool around here like the tard you are…...

  37. 37
    Raven Said:
    9:57 pm 

    George, what about Charlotte?

    Surely you have thoughts. You must have some wind in your mostly empty head about this little girl.

  38. 38
    George Jones Said:
    9:59 pm 

    Tard? Felch? Oh my, Ken Doll. Ain’t you a toughie!

    You know, if your mom knew you used words like that she’d make you move out of her basement.

  39. 39
    George Jones Said:
    10:03 pm 

    What do I think about Charlotte? Sounds like the insurance companies want to save some cash and pull the plug on the little girl rather than pay for her health costs for what looks to be a long time. And they certainly aren’t getting any interference from the so-called “compassionate conservatives” who run almost every aspect of this country.

    What more could you expect from corporate medicine and their Republican enablers?

  40. 40
    Raven Said:
    10:16 pm 

    Well he finally speaks about the subject of this post.
    And I have to agree with you about this, I think it is about money. Remember though, it’s a different political system in GB than America. (You do understand this girl lives in Britain, right and not in America).

  41. 41
    George Jones Said:
    10:20 pm 

    Britain? Oh.

    Same deal. Just a bunch of rapacious health corporations with the govt in their pockets.

  42. 42
    Raven Said:
    10:44 pm 

    Just as I figured.
    He never read the whole post. No wonder liberals are so stupid.

  43. 43
    Walter E. Wallis Said:
    12:06 am 

    Generally when people say money is no object, they are not talking about their own money. The parents should learn to ventilate, buy or borrow the necessary equipment and take her home and care for her. Of course, their last take home didn’t work out so well, but heck, blame the insurance company.

  44. 44
    kender Said:
    1:34 pm 

    So it all comes down to the money? Money comes and goes, get some today, spend it, egt some more tomorrow…it is supposed tp be spent, but DIE and it is forever. Funny how the left is so generous with others money for causes such as assisted murder and abortion, and would spend untold amounts of money to keep murderers alive in prison for life but let one little girl have serious health problems and see how fast they say “It costs too much to keep them alive” and “where’s the return?”

    Let’s play point out the hypocrisy. It is OK to kill helpless little girls because it will costs so much to keep them alive and “she is leading a sad existence” but it is OK to keep people locked up for life instead of killing them because killing them would be cruel and unusual punishment, and living behind bars for your entire life is not as bad as living in ill health but surrounded by those you love. On the other hand we shouldn’t keep animals in cages at zoos becuase spending your entire life behind bars is crual and unusual punishment and leads to depression, so we shouldn’t lock up animals like that and we shopuldn’t, speaking of animals, go hunt and kill the animals that attack people because you were in their world and you can’t go traipsing through their world and punish them when they act as they normally do, so using that logic we shouldn’t lock up poor criminals for attacking people in the ghettos and barrios because those people were in the criminals world and you can’t go traipsing through their world and punish them when they act as they normally do.

    See the disconnect here folks?

  45. 45
    Nathan Said:
    12:38 am 

    Great post.

    Just to put my 2 cents in for Georgie…just let him continue blabbing. He makes liberals all over look like idiots. The fact that he posted about Iraq in a thread that has nothing to do with Iraq says a lot. He’s a liberal zombie.

    So thank you George, please continue posting and reinforce what a moron you are. Go ahead and attack me with some 1st grade insult about my mommy. It’s a very impressive debate tactic.

  46. 46
    The Glittering Eye Trackbacked With:
    10:18 am 

    Eye on the Watcher’s Council

    This is the first in what I hope will be a regular feature here—a brief highlighting of each of the Watcher’s Council nominations for the week.  As you may know the members of the Watcher’s Council each nominate one of his or her own…

  47. 47
    Watcher of Weasels Trackbacked With:
    4:08 am 

    The Council Has Spoken!

    First off…  any spambots reading this should immediately go here, here, here,  and here.  Die spambots, die!  And now…  the winning entries in the Watcher’s Council vote for this week are Our George by Done With Mirrors, a…

  48. 48
    Dan Said:
    12:09 am 

    Plenty of people believe in slippery slopes, entire desensitization programs have been built on them. First one befriends the German shepherd and teaches it tricks obedience, etc. then one hangs it for graduation. After that one is ready to hang or gas people.

    I think the real casualty of Terri Schiavo is the rule of law itself. 1/3 of the government set it’s self over the other co-equal branches. The congress and executive made their will plain when they ordered a de novo review. When the court set that aside they set themselves over the other two and raised several difficult questions.

    If the law is whatever a judge says it is, how is that different from the rule of man? Why should I feel obligated to the proclamations of a black robed politburo?

  49. 49
    LitliGirL Said:
    6:44 am 

    I’m Kortny,
    from Singapore,
    and I’m 17 y.o

    Hi, Everyone
    I’ve studied English sinse Spring .
    It’s so hard Language!

    I want like to meet peple and practisice My English with them.

    Thanks all!!

  50. 50
    BizzyBlog » This Weekend’s Unanswered Question 2: On Baby Charlotte, Euthanasia and Socialized Medicine Pinged With:
    3:59 pm 

    [...] Right Wing Nut House — “….. the socialized medical systems that look upon humans as numbers on a chart rather than living, breathing, laughing, cuddling, thinking beings simply can’t tolerate an individual hogging more than their fair share of medical resources to stay alive. Best put the beast down, pat the parents on the head, and tell them to run along and not bother them with their silly notions of parental love and responsibility. Welcome to the Brave New World.” [...]

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