Many of you may have heard or been following the so-called “Holy Land Foundation” trial in Texas where CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in a plot to use Islamic charities in this country to fund Hamas in their war of genocide against Israel.
The Dallas Morning News has been doing a bang-up job of covering the trial and all the issues and personalities surrounding it. Here’s a piece that gives some good background on the charges and the issues.
In combing through the thousands of pages of documents seized by federal authorities, prosecutors have translated some documents that will have many blogs buzzing this morning.
The documents detail a Muslim plot to take over the United States.
First, it must be said that I have a better shot of being the closer for the Chicago Cubs than the Muslim Brotherhood has ever had of taking over the country. Reading excerpts from the plan is like taking a walk through a psyche ward for the criminally insane:
A 1991 strategy paper for the Brotherhood, often referred to as the Ikhwan in Arabic, found in the Virginia home of an unindicted co-conspirator in the case, describes the group’s U.S. goals, referred to as a “civilization-jihadist process.”“The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions,” it states. This process requires a “mastery of the art of ‘coalitions,’ the art of ‘absorption’ and the principles of ‘cooperation.’ ”
Success in the U.S. “in establishing an observant Islamic base with power and effectiveness will be the best support and aid to the global movement,” it states.
A transcript of a Brotherhood orientation meeting recorded in the early 1980s includes discussions of the need for “securing the group” from infiltration by “Zionism, Masonry … the CIA, FBI, etc. so that we find out if they are monitoring us” and “how can we get rid of them.” Discussions later turn to “weapons training at the Ikhwan’s camps” in Oklahoma and Missouri.
Not only were these guys lunatics, they were paranoid as well. The Masons? Thank God they don’t know anything about Moose Lodges.
But as nutso as these fanatics are, a germ of truth emerges from their rantings and certain actions by Muslim groups in the west begin to make sense.
I have taken great pains over the years to differentiate between the extremely small, violent minority of Muslims who have taken up jihad against American and the west and the huge bulk of the followers of the Prophet who wouldn’t hurt a flea. You can no more judge Islam by pointing to Osama Bin Laden than you can judge Christianity by invoking the name of David Koresh or Judaism by using Rabbi Kahane as an example. Such thinking is shallow, ignorant, and flies in the face of the facts.
But it is perfectly proper to judge Muslims who have emigrated to the US and Europe by standards we here in the west set for ourselves – tolerance for other faiths being among the most important. That, and a recognition of living in a shared community while adopting similar values and respecting the rights and dignity of all is a fundamental necessity to the smooth functioning of our western societies.
This does not mean that western Muslims should be prevented from proselytizing their faith nor should the process of assimilation destroy their culture or subsume their traditions. Such assimilation has been going on for centuries and has succeeded in building a stable, vibrant western culture where all can share in the advantages freedom has brought us.
But Muslims have failed in Europe (not so much in the US) to assimilate the western values of tolerance and freedom of thought and resist joining the societies that they have chosen to live. Certainly a large part of the problem have been short sighted policies promulgated by the relatively homogeneous, Christian governments of Europe that segregate the newcomers and deny them many of the benefits of living in the west. But beyond the material, there is the very real and growing problem of Muslim resistance to the very idea that there are certain tenets of western society that all must believe in if it is to work.
The fanatics who wrote the plan to “take over” the US reveal tactics being used in Europe by Muslims to further isolate their communities, shielding them from the influence of western culture while seeking to impose their own beliefs on the majority. There is nothing subtle about this which makes it all the more incomprehensible that governments acquiesce to some of the demands of the “moderates.” If the goal is to avoid social unrest, all they are doing is putting off the inevitable. Eventually, the newcomers will demand more than any government will be able or willing to give. And at that point, the clash they could have avoided by resisting calls for codifying intolerance now will certainly come back to haunt them.
The tactics of “absorption, “cooperation, and using the “art of coalitions” in order to further isolate Muslims in Europe are familiar to anyone who has followed recent history in countries like Great Britain, France, Holland, and Denmark. Ironically, European Muslims build coalitions and garner cooperation not to assimilate but rather to further separate themselves from the societies where they live. They have little thought of “taking over” France or Great Britain (at the moment). But building a separate society, removed from the mainstream and governed by their own laws is almost certainly within their reach. And when the demographics favor them 50 years from now, it won’t be a matter of them “taking over” but instead simple “absorption” of the minority of original Europeans will be all that is necessary.
Such a scenario will not play out here in America. There would have to be a massive influx of Muslims for that to occur. The latest census shows around 3 million Muslims in the United States or about 1% of the population. Even with lax immigration, the idea that Muslims will be able to resist the pull of assimilation in any great numbers doesn’t make any sense. The US is too big, too diverse, for any one group to “grow” themselves to dominance.
Those Muslim Brotherhood nut cases should go back to the drawing board. The plan they’ve come up with doesn’t pass the loony test.























10:45 am
Exactly, and the scientologists probably have better odds than these fools.
10:46 am
“First, it must be said that I have a better shot of being the closer for the Chicago Cubs than the Muslim Brotherhood has ever had of taking over the country.”
The way Dempster’s been pitching lately, you might be an upgrade, so I wouldn’t consider this to be very re-assuring.
11:56 am
Same goes for the fear and loathing being manufactured by the left in regards to a “Christian theocracy” being established in America. Christians can’t even agree on which version of the Bible is proper, much less coalescing to the point of supplanting our Constitution with it.
Christian governments of Europe? Some shallow symbolism remains of what was once a deeply-held tradition, but in the practical sense the governments of “Great Britain, France, Holland, and Denmark” have been overwhelmed by secular influences over the past half century.
10:48 pm
So you think…
the “poor, oppressed” Islamists only want us to leave them alone.
Think again.
As Captain Ed notes:
It’s hard to say how seriously anyone should take this as a real contemporary threat to the US, but it does point out how seriously the …
11:12 am
“Discussions later turn to “weapons training at the Ikhwan’s camps†in Oklahoma and Missouri.”
Any mentioning of the Oklahoma city bombing?
12:53 pm
“The US is too big, too diverse, for any one group to “grow†themselves to dominance.”
I think the trends in the Hispanic population will, over the next 20 years or less, unfortunately disprove the above statement.
1:01 pm
I’ve seen the same figures you probably have. They assume a continued flood of illegals as well as high birth rates.
They said the same thing about the Irish a hundred years ago and you know what happened? As the economic situation improved for the Irish, the started having far fewer babies. And I think it is pretty well correlated that relatively richer people have fewer children.
As for the illegals, I think it will be stopped one way or another – either on the Mexican side where improving economic conditions will slow it down or on this side where people will eventually rebel and get serious about border security – probably after another terrorist attack.
8:47 pm
Figures about the number of Muslims in the US seem to be quite variable. The 2006 data from the census gives 1% foreign-born Muslims and 1.1% US-born Muslims, which yields over 6 million followers of that faith in our nation.
Guess the percentage of bad, violent Muslims as perhaps 1% of the total, or about 60 thousand potential terrorists. Want to make it more palatable? OK, then take only 1/4%, which leaves us 15 thousand to chase after on a daily basis, because they are identified as linked with terrorist organizations run from Muslim lands.
Of course we don’t know legally just what these people are up to, and they are at any one moment being passive and making nice. But, it occurs to me that we are wide open to their use of bombs, and the most likely number of them is not bandied about by the authorities. This number of potentially 15 thousand terrorists in the US is, to put it mildly, a significant bunch to keep an eye on, and that is the minimum, I believe.
So let the majority be rosy and friendly, and not able to hurt a fly. They aren’t the ones to worry about, at least not at first.
Then too, there is no known test one can devise to expose the bad guys. You will know them by their acts.
We cannot keep putting our heads in the sand about this threat, can we?
9:14 pm
There is a huge difference between Irish, who are mostly of the Catholic faith, and Muslims, who are signed up to Islam. For our immigrants, the difference in these faiths is one of supporting the US, versus supporting only Islam.
I need not enumerate the tenets of Islam here that make it an anathema to our nation, but they exist now and they are deadly. For a Muslim to turn his back on these Islamic tenets is for him to be executed at the first opportunity. Thus, we have a huge potential fifth column in our country. Or are we letting ourselves be deluded as to the real threat?
“It can’t happen here” is what I heard on September 10th, 2001.