Kevin Drum watching the Democrats debate in Hollywood the other night:
Another thing the debate brought home to me is something Matt Yglesias complains about frequently. Both candidates claimed that Democrats understand national security and terrorism issues better than Republicans (“Democrats have a much better grasp of the reality of the situation,” as Hillary put it), and both agreed that a successful Democratic candidate would need to be able to make that case to the public. Obama thought he could make that case better because he opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, while Clinton thought she could make the case better because she’s better prepared. But neither of them actually made that case. Both Obama and Clinton had a national stage where they had more time than usual to explain the liberal position on how to combat terrorism and make the world safer, and neither of them did it. They just said they needed to do it.And they’re right. They do need to do that. So why didn’t they start last night?
Democrats “understand” national security issues better than Republicans but the cat’s got their tongue when trying to explain why?
Let’s buy into that dubious formulation and try to ease Kevin’s perplexity. First of all, both Clinton and Obama are hamstrung by one, overriding, overarching reality; they can’t support any policy, strategy, or proposal that has been implemented, offered by, or hinted at by the Bush Administration.
This is the baseline for any policy formulated by the candidates. The deranged nature of their base when it comes to anything Bush precludes the advocacy of some Administration policies that actually may have merit while other Bush policies regarding the use of pre-emptive force and the struggle against Islamic extremism have become an anathema to the entire Democratic party.
That leaves each candidate trying to show how much more accommodating they would be to the cutthroats of the world than Bush – a prospect that no doubt has the Iranians, Syrians, Hamas, and others wishing devoutly for a Democratic triumph at the polls next November but that may leave large segments of the American electorate cold.
Hence, the attempts by both candidates to obscure the truth by mouthing platitudes and offering generalities in lieu of specific ways to deal with the threats that we will face over the next decade. I think both candidate’s emphasis on nuclear non-proliferation is spot on and is something they should probably highlight even more. And I think that Clinton, at least, has a grasp of the nature of the terrorism threat and could be counted on to be creative in confronting it.
But we hear precious little about revitalizing NATO so that Afghanistan can be saved. Nor do we hear anything about regional security regarding our Gulf allies who truly see an existential threat coming from Tehran. Lest anyone doubt that fact, the recent flurry of diplomatic activity by both the United States and France in the region that included Bush’s tour of the region, the sale of sophisticated weaponry to the Saudis, and Sarkozy’s nuclear diplomacy with other Gulf states proves the point.
In the end, the real debate is over the use of force; when, against who, and if ever. Both candidates say they would respond forcefully to a terrorist attack against the United States. Bully for them. If they didn’t, they would be impeached by their own party.
What the American people want to know is would they strike to prevent an attack and what they would do about a regime that planned and/or executed another 9/11? What would be done about an attack that was something far less than another 9/11? Would there be a “proportional response” to such an attack – stopping short of regime change while lobbing a few cruise missiles on to some vital economic or military targets?
And what about regime change? Is there any criteria where it would be justified? Both candidates have roundly criticized – with some justification – Administration policies in Iraq. Would our experience there keep them from taking down a tyrant or regime that threatened America directly?
I suppose it somewhat unfair to ask Democrats to answer these questions when Republican candidates haven’t been very clear themselves although both Romney and McCain have come out in support of pre-emptive war to some extent. But for the Democratic front runners, being obtuse is a survival tactic. If they sound too tough in the primaries, they lose the base. If they sound too weak, the GOP makes hay during the general election campaign.
Hillary Clinton seems to have found the answer to that dilemma simply by speaking out of both sides of her mouth at the same time. She can sound as tough as any Republican when she talks about the War on Terror while offering soothing platitudes regarding negotiations and scathing criticism of Bush at other times. This has the dual effect of keeping the Democratic base at bay while not offering an opening for Republicans if she wins the nomination.
So both candidates end up promoting a “Wonder Bread” national security policy; very soft and full of air but tastes good going down. It is enough to satisfy their base but will it work on the voters in the general election campaign? I think that depends on how important national security will be as an issue next fall. If the economy is in the tank, I doubt if people will give much weight to GOP criticisms of the Democrat’s obscurant policy positions. But all bets are off if the United States is attacked again or if the economy isn’t quite as important as it is today. Then the Democratic candidate will be forced to be a little more specific about what they intend to do to protect the US from the threat of international terrorism.
7:09 pm
Well written Rick!
7:30 pm
All this can be traced back to George Bush and his blunders, including keeping Rumsfeld long after it had been shown he had made crucial mistakes. Better to stand by friends and allies and bad appointments like Bremmer and Brownie than be “disloyal.” The Republican Party is in shambles now and don’t look for the restoration to begin until after McCain has lost. Obama will appoint Supreme Court justices from the left to replace the aged parties hanging on until a new administration and so Bush’s legacy will be with us for decades.
11:29 pm
I guess we will see how true this turns out to be since the conservatives are abandoning ship if McCain is the nominee.
The whole “Support the troops” schtick from the right was nothing more meaningful than a campaign slogan. Abandoning the leadership of our military to a Hillary administration shows the true level of support that statement “really” meant.
12:12 am
I love Banjo’s overconfidence that the left will prevail..just like goracle and lurch did the past two presidential cycles. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings. I really don’t see what Obambi brings to the table. Do Americans want illegals to have licenses? We should worry about the concerns of Islamic states (screw Israel)? Cede Iraq to terrorism/caliphate? But then, I suppose most people believe the spin of the treason media.
9:44 am
Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup – Super Bowl Edition…
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Happy Sunday! The Sun is shining, the birds are singing, the Super Bowl will be played (surrounded by way too many commercials and an idiotic halftime show.) Another fantastic day in the USA. These pinups are by Ted Hammond, no need to add the Flag,...
9:46 am
Hillary could have talked about specifics, but that could lose her votes. Can’t have that. The media protects these candidates. It’s part of the media’s job as they see it.
Don’t wait for any of the major candidates to talk about their voting records on immigration amnesty. It won’t happen.
1:59 pm
Obambi was born to a Muslim father, raised by a Muslim step-father and attended Muslim schools as a child. Now Obambi’s Foreign Affairs advisor is an Egyptian born Muslim anti-semetic. So will Obambi combat terrorism by just saying Yes! to whatever the terrorists demand? HmMmm?
4:06 pm
“Democrats “understand†national security issues better than Republicans but the cat’s got their tongue when trying to explain why?”
They seek sound bytes a little more discerning than ‘Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out” which seems to give Republican candidates the edge.
BTW; Which republican candidate is talking about the success of the surge, or Afghanistan?
6:47 am
Tuesday Links…
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